Equally yoked

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Lanolin

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We always hear the warning about being unequally yoked but...is anyone equally yoked and what does that actually look like.
What things do you look for or how do you know when someone is your equal?
Is it just, you partner is also a christian and thats all they need to be, or do they have to be the same age, height. weight, profession, skin colour, eye colour, culture, blood type, GPA, IQ, bank balance, have the same interests, speak the same langauge, wear the exact same brand sneakers or what??
 

tourist

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All things being equal there are probably a lot of peeps unequally yoked.
 

Lynx

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We always hear the warning about being unequally yoked but...is anyone equally yoked and what does that actually look like.
What things do you look for or how do you know when someone is your equal?
Is it just, you partner is also a christian and thats all they need to be, or do they have to be the same age, height. weight, profession, skin colour, eye colour, culture, blood type, GPA, IQ, bank balance, have the same interests, speak the same langauge, wear the exact same brand sneakers or what??
Dunno... One of our forum members recently claimed he married down, in many ways.

I have been curious ever since - what does his wife think about the situation?
 

selahsays

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We always hear the warning about being unequally yoked but...is anyone equally yoked and what does that actually look like.
What things do you look for or how do you know when someone is your equal?
Is it just, you partner is also a christian and thats all they need to be, or do they have to be the same age, height. weight, profession, skin colour, eye colour, culture, blood type, GPA, IQ, bank balance, have the same interests, speak the same langauge, wear the exact same brand sneakers or what??
They need to be caring. IMG_5748.gif
 

notmyown

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it's been said the Christian life is a long walk in the same direction.

to be equally yoked is to be yoked to someone who's going in the same direction you are.
 

seoulsearch

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it's been said the Christian life is a long walk in the same direction.

to be equally yoked is to be yoked to someone who's going in the same direction you are.

I love this -- thank you so much for sharing!!!

I've always wondered about this. Here in singles we have people regularly yelling at us to "NOT BE UNEQUALLY YOKED," as if we didn't already know that, but no one really goes into what that looks like in real life or for themselves. If we aren't to be unequally yoked, what does equal yoking actually look like?

What if two believers have different views of things like baptism (when it should be done,) communion (what actually happens -- does it actually turn into the Body and Blood or is it just a representation, etc.,) the rapture... and the list goes on and on.

If a couple doesn't agree on everything, are they unequally yoked?

I grew up exposed to one view of baptism, but after my own lifetime of study, have changed my views. If I would have been married when I believed A about baptism, but gravitated over to B while I was married and my husband still believed in A, would we have started out equally yoked but then became unequally yoked over time? Now I know this could be a problem if/when children came into the picture and the two parents disagreed about when to baptize their child.

But your explanation of going in the same direction is a big help in sorting some of this out.

As long as a couple agrees on the basic tenants of how and what it means to be saved and can smooth out other differences salvation doesn't depend on, maybe they will have a chance.
 

Lanolin

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hmm so it really is about same brand sneakers then because of Christian walking.

I will look at feet then. So anyone wearing Skechers moonwalkers here? Size Seven. But I also wear other shoes.
 

notmyown

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I love this -- thank you so much for sharing!!!

I've always wondered about this. Here in singles we have people regularly yelling at us to "NOT BE UNEQUALLY YOKED," as if we didn't already know that, but no one really goes into what that looks like in real life or for themselves. If we aren't to be unequally yoked, what does equal yoking actually look like?

What if two believers have different views of things like baptism (when it should be done,) communion (what actually happens -- does it actually turn into the Body and Blood or is it just a representation, etc.,) the rapture... and the list goes on and on.

If a couple doesn't agree on everything, are they unequally yoked?

I grew up exposed to one view of baptism, but after my own lifetime of study, have changed my views. If I would have been married when I believed A about baptism, but gravitated over to B while I was married and my husband still believed in A, would we have started out equally yoked but then became unequally yoked over time? Now I know this could be a problem if/when children came into the picture and the two parents disagreed about when to baptize their child.

But your explanation of going in the same direction is a big help in sorting some of this out.

As long as a couple agrees on the basic tenants of how and what it means to be saved and can smooth out other differences salvation doesn't depend on, maybe they will have a chance.
yes, agreed, as long as a couple agrees on the essentials of the Christian faith (the Trinity, deity of Christ, etc.), and can have charity with the things that aren't essentials, they ought to be fine. my husband and i disagree on eschatology. we can discuss it for an hour after dinner, and he's still going to put his arm around me while we watch the ball game later. :)

now i'm afraid i have to become a bit irate because it seems to me there's entirely too much demeaning and scolding of single people, IN THE SINGLES FORUM for cryin' out loud! :oops:

i hope you realize y'all are some of the most patient, kind, and wise folks at the site.

bah! <--- the last of my ire lol
 

notmyown

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hmm so it really is about same brand sneakers then because of Christian walking.

I will look at feet then. So anyone wearing Skechers moonwalkers here? Size Seven. But I also wear other shoes.
Lanolin, i apologize to you. i think you meant this to be a fun thread, and i kinda stomped on it. please forgive me?

ps-- i wear a 6 1/2 wide, on account of my Fred Flintstone feet. :sneaky:
 

seoulsearch

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yes, agreed, as long as a couple agrees on the essentials of the Christian faith (the Trinity, deity of Christ, etc.), and can have charity with the things that aren't essentials, they ought to be fine. my husband and i disagree on eschatology. we can discuss it for an hour after dinner, and he's still going to put his arm around me while we watch the ball game later. :)

now i'm afraid i have to become a bit irate because it seems to me there's entirely too much demeaning and scolding of single people, IN THE SINGLES FORUM for cryin' out loud! :oops:

i hope you realize y'all are some of the most patient, kind, and wise folks at the site.

bah! <--- the last of my ire lol
Not at all, NotMyOwn.

I relish the wisdom you bring here and hope to see you more often.

This is just me, but I think a lot of married people either approach singles with the thought that they can "help" by constantly trying to "teach" us what we should or shouldn't do, or else tell us all about the happy Christian fairytale aspects of their marriages. These things have their place and might help some people.

But me, I'm just becoming a weary old hag-gish single gal. :D I'm at an age where I think there has to be mutual teaching from each side, not one side always thinking they can teach the other. The best mentors I've had/people I listened to most always said, "We both have things to learn from each other." Those are the people I gravitate towards and spend my energy on. I need to hear about the arguments, challenges, and sometimes heartache within marriages to keep things realistic, not just how they do everything together and how God made them for each other. That might be true, but I need something more rounded.

You know how everyone puts up shiny happy displays of perfection on social media? And everyone knows it's very cherry-picked and one-sided? Eventually, people start to despise glossy presentations and crave something more real and authentic.

That's how I am with the subject of marriage. My parents are in a stage in life in which some of their friends and associates are taking care of long-term sick spouses, getting used to different stages of mobility (wheelchairs,) trying to keep their heads up as they watch someone fade away through hospice care, and have to find a way to carry on when God calls their spouse home.

Very, very few people talk to us singles about those realities. I can think of a few here who have been married before and have talked about the hardships of caring for and/or losing someone, and those are the people I hone in on. Those are the things I want to hear about -- real life, and where it eventually winds up, for all of us, even though most don't want to think about it.

Your story about your different views from your husband was a perfect example, along with explaining how you both handle it.

I wish more marrieds would tell us about these kinds of things, because that's real life.

The overly polished stories are probably helpful for the younger singles, but I'm just a few years away from becoming a crazy cat lady! (And they'd have to be stuffed, because I'm allergic!)

It's a long story but a few years ago, I actually lived in a retirement home near my parents for 6 months. It was a place in which it was considered unusual if there wasn't an ambulance there every single day, and if the ambulance was still and quiet, you knew what had happened. I woke up in the middle of the night a few times to people screaming in the other parts of the facility, and when it stopped, you didn't know if they had stopped on their own, or if they had to be sedated.

I talked to many, many people about the sides of marriage no one seems to talk about -- and for me, that's the part I want to hear about most, because I'm not getting any younger, and if I do marry, I know that might be coming.

Thank you so much for spending some of your valuable time here with us singles! Your wisdom and experience is extremely valuable to someone like me.

And, I really hope to see you around here more often. :love:
 

Lanolin

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I've forgotten, what is eschatology again?

Is it, I will be going straight to heaven while you are in purgatory kind of thing.
 

Lanolin

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Lanolin, i apologize to you. i think you meant this to be a fun thread, and i kinda stomped on it. please forgive me?

ps-- i wear a 6 1/2 wide, on account of my Fred Flintstone feet. :sneaky:
Forgiven, but does that mean you wear gumboots? Skellerup red top?
 

notmyown

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I've forgotten, what is eschatology again?

Is it, I will be going straight to heaven while you are in purgatory kind of thing.
eschatology is the study of last things. :)
 

notmyown

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Forgiven, but does that mean you wear gumboots? Skellerup red top?
thank you, Lanolin!

i do have winter boots for taking walks in the snow, but for the most part, shoes are foot prison. :p
 

seekingthemindofChrist

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What is the intended purpose behind yoking two oxen together?

Is it not to pull a plow in order that seed might be planted and a crop might be harvested?

Luke 9:59-62

"And he said unto another, Follow me. But he said, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father. Jesus said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God. And another also said, Lord, I will follow thee; but let me first go bid them farewell, which are at home at my house. And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God."

Here, Jesus likened following him to putting one's hand to the plow and preaching the kingdom of God.

Personally, I have lost all hope of ever finding a woman who would be willing to be "equally yoked" to me in this manner, and this is but one reason why I believe that I will remain single for the rest of my life.

Deuteronomy 22:10

"Thou shalt not plow with an ox and an ass together."

I am not implying that all women are asses by quoting this. Being "unequally yoked" is by no means limited to marriage or to a male/female type of relationship, and even in a male/female type of relationship, it is quite possible that the woman could best be represented by the ox and that the man could best be represented by the ass.

Paul addressed fellow, like-minded male believers in Christ in this manner:

Philippians 4:3

"And I intreat thee also, true yokefellow, help those women which laboured with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and with other my fellowlabourers, whose names are in the book of life."

Coupling an ox and an ass together is not wise.

The former will inevitably be more disciplined and bare the burden of the load, and the latter will inevitably be self-willed and unruly.

Unfortunately, that imagery reminds me of many married couples that I know, and many other people who are in varying types of relationships.
 

TabinRivCA

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I was married to a agnostic who would be irate if I had Christian TV on and who, btw, received Jesus right before his departing. I had many church friends at the time and the difference is while my husband was very humorous but shell-shocked from Viet Nam, I could not discuss anything Christian w/him. Now, in my small groups, there are males and females where we're talking Holy Spirit things. I can look them in the eyes and see the Spiritual connection and it's quite heavenly. Of course, we're still human and esp with politics, it's a challenge to find someone 'eye-to-eye' on everything ie candidates, masks, extremists etc with the other person. But it's fun working it out calmly together.
 

JohnDB

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Ummmm
Just to put my 2 pennies in here...

It's about pulling and pushing each other to be more holy and sanctified. Encouraging, shaming, and cajoling as necessary.
 

Lynx

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Shaming?

Oh well. Whatever works for you, I guess.