How Does One Person Single-Handedly Fight Off a Stereotype?

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Lynx

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Yeah, but... Cakewalk? Really? I mean I know some people somewhere uses Cakewalk, but... I never thought I'd meet any of them. :p
 
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There you go stereotyping old folks. :p

My folks (in their mid 70's) walk their dog an average of 3-5 miles a day and when the weather is less agreeable and they don't walk the dog as far they make it up at the YMCA. The baby boomers are probably the most health conscious generation (when it comes to their age group) in history.
The baby boomers up where you are might be that way. I read in a magazine that Boulder was the most physically fit city in the country so maybe that goes for the rest of the state?

Fittest city? Boulder, Colo., once again tops the list - TODAY.com
 
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Would you even want to be with a man who'd so quickly judge a person he doesn't know?

In my view of it, those men who are quick to decide that you're shallow and frivolous because you're reading a fashion magazine aren't worthy of you.
 
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The baby boomers up where you are might be that way. I read in a magazine that Boulder was the most physically fit city in the country so maybe that goes for the rest of the state?

Fittest city? Boulder, Colo., once again tops the list - TODAY.com
So anyway I'm a member of two gyms and they're the two largest chains out here and I usually don't see more than 1 or two elderly folks working out... but I guess there could be special gyms for them that I don't know about like the one SS goes to..
 
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I think we should start a gofundme page so SS can get membership at a regular gym..

and those speakers look sweet! :rolleyes:
 
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Would you even want to be with a man who'd so quickly judge a person he doesn't know?

In my view of it, those men who are quick to decide that you're shallow and frivolous because you're reading a fashion magazine aren't worthy of you.
I don't think he wanted to date her. It was an old man. Old men may judge about such things, that's cute.
 
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Well you have to ask yourself-if he isn't into vogue is he really, truly worth it?
 

BruceWayne

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I once went shopping with my brother. He needed new clothes. He walked in one store, took what he needed and we were ready hahahahahahaha.
Haha that's pretty much how I shop. Whatever I see that I like... I get it and go. :p

But um.. as far as stereotypes, I don't think I've ever dealt with any, or didn't care enough to notice. On the other side of that, if I saw a girl reading that magazine, I wouldn't think anything of it. For me, it's just like who cares lol. People like what they like, read what they like, wear what they like, etc. I wouldn't stay away from a girl who was into fashion and liked to wear the latest trends. It might be good that one of us has a fashion sense. :p
 
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As long as I can remember every one simply assumed I am an airhead with no mind, because I am blonde and large chested. What does one do when they approach you like you are stupid as can be??? Depends my mood, I mean most of the time its men with pick up lines, so I am snarky and sometimes it is clients with the whole eye roll she doesn't know anything, well then the knowledge simply is heard and they stop looking at my outside appearance and see me for who GOD made me to be. I don't mind, its peoples loss to judge a book by the cover.
 
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As long as I can remember every one simply assumed I am an airhead with no mind, because I am blonde and large chested. What does one do when they approach you like you are stupid as can be??? Depends my mood, I mean most of the time its men with pick up lines, so I am snarky and sometimes it is clients with the whole eye roll she doesn't know anything, well then the knowledge simply is heard and they stop looking at my outside appearance and see me for who GOD made me to be. I don't mind, its peoples loss to judge a book by the cover.
I put my hair in a knot for a year and it looks more dark blonde then. I thought maybe now my manager will think I also have a brain. Ah didn't work. In high school I was bullied for getting high grades and studying too much. I don't mind much if they sometimes make a joke. It's quite funny. Lately I reminded myself of a dumb blonde joke. A girl walks in a shop and wants a television but doesn't get it. Colors her hair black, still she can't buy it. What is this? she says. Why can't I buy this television? It's a microwave LOL.
I went to a handy man shop. My kid wanted a cable for the XBOX or tv. I had no idea what I needed. First had to look it up, but he wanted it now, so I went to the handy man shop and said: I need something but I don't know what.
Oh then you can just buy everything in the shop he says. Hahahahaha the whole night my kids made dumb blonde jokes.
 
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I put my hair in a knot for a year and it looks more dark blonde then. I thought maybe now my manager will think I also have a brain. Ah didn't work. In high school I was bullied for getting high grades and studying too much. I don't mind much if they sometimes make a joke. It's quite funny. Lately I reminded myself of a dumb blonde joke. A girl walks in a shop and wants a television but doesn't get it. Colors her hair black, still she can't buy it. What is this? she says. Why can't I buy this television? It's a microwave LOL.
I went to a handy man shop. My kid wanted a cable for the XBOX or tv. I had no idea what I needed. First had to look it up, but he wanted it now, so I went to the handy man shop and said: I need something but I don't know what.
Oh then you can just buy everything in the shop he says. Hahahahaha the whole night my kids made dumb blonde jokes.
Sometimes you play the dumb blonde because it is so funny how people act towards you. He probably wanted the HDMI cable! I hope the handy man was able to help you!
 

seoulsearch

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So anyway I'm a member of two gyms and they're the two largest chains out here and I usually don't see more than 1 or two elderly folks working out... but I guess there could be special gyms for them that I don't know about like the one SS goes to..
Thanks to everyone for the great answers, and I hope they will continue. No, I didn't want to date the guy who approached me (in the original post), seeing as he was about 30 years older than me, but I do wonder sometimes if guys my own age have passed me by (in restaurants, etc.) because they see what I'm reading and assume I'm a materialistic shopaholic.

To answer Zero's question, the place I go to isn't a specific chain or franchise. It's in a retirement community and only those who live there have access, which is why it's all seniors.

I know some people who live there so I'm able to go there as a guest, free of charge. :)

So as I said, everyone there is a senior, unless they have younger friends or relatives who are visiting. And yes, it CAN be very motivating. I saw a woman there today who was probably in her 50's and had the sleek, sculpted arms that have been my lifetime fitness goal.

Many of the women there wear a lot of form-fitting and body-conscious workout gear, and some of them look better than girls in their 20's, which is definitely something that will keep me on the treadmill for an extra 15 minutes (I keep thinking, "I don't look like that right now, but there's still hope!!!").

I'm going to need another magazine.
 
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Ultimatum77

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Hey Everyone,

If you were to ever see me in public, most likely, I would be reading something. I hate "wasted space" when it comes to time, so whether I'm waiting at a doctor's office, on a break at work, eating alone, or on a treadmill, I'm almost always reading something.

And the number one thing you'll find me reading is a fashion magazine. This is because they're cheap (no one reads things in print anymore, so they're often $5 a year for a subscription), easy-to-read (convenient when facing sudden interruptions), and because they're mine (and not from the library), I don't have to worry if they get torn up or accidentally left behind. I always carry cheap, easy reading materials in my car and in my backpack. I also carry devotionals but usually finish with them pretty quickly.

I have always wondered if people were judging me for what I'm reading. Today I got my answer.

I was at the gym and, in typical fashion (pun intended), was reading a woman's fashion magazine while working out on a stationary bike. Suddenly, out of nowhere, a man in his 70's walked up to me and said, "Now don't go spending all your money on that garbage!" I had to bite my lip (REALLY hard) to keep from saying something sarcastic, but I simply answered, "Oh, I don't buy any of it, I just like to read about it." I shouldn't have to explain myself, but anyone who knows me here knows I am about as opposite from what he assumed as you can get.

I have often wondered if I've missed out on dates from men (hopefully not all 30 years older!!) who saw me reading things like "Vogue"--and assumed I was just another fluffy-headed, self-centered, materialistic woman (as women seem to be so-often stereotyped) who only cares about fashion and expects a man to buy her all the latest material things. As I said, I'm pretty sure today was my resounding answer, and it was discouraging beyond belief.

Another major reason as to why I read fashion magazines is because I'm studying the pictures and trying to figure out how to copy certain elements of the design. As most of you know, clothing construction is one of my hobbies, and one of my dreams is to one day sew clothes for people who are hard to fit (smaller or larger than traditional sizes)/, differently-abled with special needs, and/or self-conscious about features that can be camouflaged by good design. My main interest is always function over frivolity (as well as quality, which is why I like to look at the high-end examples), but everyone wants to look their best, so I understand that color, form, and style are important, too.

The thing is, most guys aren't going to automatically understand that I'm also reading articles about couture sewing techniques I'd like to try myself (all they'll see is me flipping pages upon pages of clothes, leaving them with the impression that this is all I care about.) They'll see me carrying magazines with glossy pictures of glamorized celebrities on the cover, but they don't realize I'm also currently reading an article about how women are surviving in war-torn countries. And I understand that--all of us, to an extent, judge others by what we see (or see them doing.)

I guess all I can do is pray that if I run into Mr. Right someday and I happen to be reading a copy of "Vogue", he'll at least be somewhat open-minded as to why I'm looking at pictures of high-end clothes. I suppose I could try to carry around copies of "Business Weekly" or something, but don't we all want to be liked (and approached) for who we truly are?

And hopefully, any guy who might be kind enough to notice me will also hopefully be keen enough to notice I'm wearing a pair of shorts I've had for 6 years (via Old Navy), and my favorite Spiderman t-shirt (now that's MY idea of "high-swinging fashion".)

Do you find yourself fighting stereotypes about who you are?

Tell us about them.

And, what do you do to cope?
I punch them in the face and walk away celebrating like Richard Sherman on Michael Crabtree....

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Just kidding....yea I used to fight against that dang apu kwik-e-mart stereotype which I admit is funny but not true at all....not all indians are stupid gas station running imbeciles....who are just always hungry for money at any cost.....well I should say at least not this one (me) :)....the best thing to do is ignore it....it works all the time! Know who you are and be happy with self as I always say!
 

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i just start talking about tacos

cuz everybody loves tacos.
 
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It is fascinating to me, the assumptions people get by seeing some random thing someone does or wears. I've been learning to swing dance, and went to Dallas a few weeks ago to try out my new skills in a room packed full of total strangers. I'd been dancing with lots of different people all night, but when no one asked I would just take a seat and watch. Once, this happened, and I pulled my bag out from under my chair to take my water bottle out and get a drink. I was just sitting there watching the other people dancing, with my bag in my lap. After a while someone came up and asked if I would dance with him. It was about halfway through the song by then, and as we were finding a spot on the floor he said, "I wasn't sure whether to ask you or not, because you looked like you didn't want to dance."

I was genuinely shocked, because all night I had made a huge effort to appear as though I WANTED to dance. (Nobody knew me, so I didn't want to be stuck on the sideline all night.) He told me that I looked like I didn't want to dance because I was holding my bag in my lap. Apparently that was a deliberate outward sign to him that women used when they didn't want to be asked to dance. I don't know if that was just his own theory, or if that's a well-known thing among men?

I found it funny though, that all of these little signs and hints men seem to have are completely lost on me. I guess women probably do that too, but I'm unaware of those also. :p
 

seoulsearch

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^^^ Grace, I would definitely ask you to dance. :D

You are way too cute to be sitting on the sidelines all night!!! :cool:
 

phil36

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Ithink we all 'stereo type' people whether we mean to do it or not. It's like the ole saying 'don't judge a book by its cover'. And yet how often do we mis judge the book because of its cover?

When other peole stereo type us I don't think there is much we can do about it, I mean in the sense of what was in the OP, those first impression judgements. We all have our own quirks, the way we like to dress, what magazines we like to read etc etc and these quirks will lead (unfortunatley) people into certain preconceived perceptions of others rightly or wrongly.

What can we do? Well if its a stranger..it doesn't really matter as your never likely to see them again. However, if it is in a club or a group then those preconceptions should disappear once people get to know you and vice versa because you will also have made some 'stereo type' judgements!

Some stereo typing is not nesessarily bad, say I saw someone dresse like a rocker or Goth, I am automatically going to summize in my mind that they also like that sort of style, but I wouldn't assume that they should be avoided or think they are trouble makers lol. (I had the leather jacket and long hair myself once upon a time).. Anyhow that was a long winded wy of saying we al do it and not all the time is it bad.

Basically, since the Fall we all cannot relate to each other properly and this is not going to stop anytime soon. It will one day. And this is the root cause of 'stereo typing' or misreading someone, or just being outright rude. What we can do as Christians is try and work on ourelves not to 'judge a book' by its cover, not easy to do sometimes. Stereo typing is making a judgment on someone without actually knowing them or not having heard what they say. I have done it (i done it today at the shops, I am not telling you what it was though).

Basically we have a flawed view of each other, our relationships with each other is not right - humanity is broken.. Thats why we need Jesus. and one day 'stereo typing' will disappear.
 
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It's quite annoying when people expect me to know everything IT- related just because I have an education that involves some programming and business theory. It wonder if the same people expect ordinary nurses and doctors to do surgery (or surgeons to do nurse / doctor tasks for that sake)

I tend to tell them that what the school teachers is a far cry from reality :p
 
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It's quite annoying when people expect me to know everything IT- related just because I have an education that involves some programming and business theory. It wonder if the same people expect ordinary nurses and doctors to do surgery (or surgeons to do nurse / doctor tasks for that sake)

I tend to tell them that what the school teachers is a far cry from reality :p
Lol I had a guy yesterday ask me something like that, because most guys I work with are IT-ers. I said: I have no idea. I'm just a stupid cartographer.