How Does One Person Single-Handedly Fight Off a Stereotype?

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seoulsearch

OutWrite Trouble
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Hey Everyone,

If you were to ever see me in public, most likely, I would be reading something. I hate "wasted space" when it comes to time, so whether I'm waiting at a doctor's office, on a break at work, eating alone, or on a treadmill, I'm almost always reading something.

And the number one thing you'll find me reading is a fashion magazine. This is because they're cheap (no one reads things in print anymore, so they're often $5 a year for a subscription), easy-to-read (convenient when facing sudden interruptions), and because they're mine (and not from the library), I don't have to worry if they get torn up or accidentally left behind. I always carry cheap, easy reading materials in my car and in my backpack. I also carry devotionals but usually finish with them pretty quickly.

I have always wondered if people were judging me for what I'm reading. Today I got my answer.

I was at the gym and, in typical fashion (pun intended), was reading a woman's fashion magazine while working out on a stationary bike. Suddenly, out of nowhere, a man in his 70's walked up to me and said, "Now don't go spending all your money on that garbage!" I had to bite my lip (REALLY hard) to keep from saying something sarcastic, but I simply answered, "Oh, I don't buy any of it, I just like to read about it." I shouldn't have to explain myself, but anyone who knows me here knows I am about as opposite from what he assumed as you can get.

I have often wondered if I've missed out on dates from men (hopefully not all 30 years older!!) who saw me reading things like "Vogue"--and assumed I was just another fluffy-headed, self-centered, materialistic woman (as women seem to be so-often stereotyped) who only cares about fashion and expects a man to buy her all the latest material things. As I said, I'm pretty sure today was my resounding answer, and it was discouraging beyond belief.

Another major reason as to why I read fashion magazines is because I'm studying the pictures and trying to figure out how to copy certain elements of the design. As most of you know, clothing construction is one of my hobbies, and one of my dreams is to one day sew clothes for people who are hard to fit (smaller or larger than traditional sizes)/, differently-abled with special needs, and/or self-conscious about features that can be camouflaged by good design. My main interest is always function over frivolity (as well as quality, which is why I like to look at the high-end examples), but everyone wants to look their best, so I understand that color, form, and style are important, too.

The thing is, most guys aren't going to automatically understand that I'm also reading articles about couture sewing techniques I'd like to try myself (all they'll see is me flipping pages upon pages of clothes, leaving them with the impression that this is all I care about.) They'll see me carrying magazines with glossy pictures of glamorized celebrities on the cover, but they don't realize I'm also currently reading an article about how women are surviving in war-torn countries. And I understand that--all of us, to an extent, judge others by what we see (or see them doing.)

I guess all I can do is pray that if I run into Mr. Right someday and I happen to be reading a copy of "Vogue", he'll at least be somewhat open-minded as to why I'm looking at pictures of high-end clothes. I suppose I could try to carry around copies of "Business Weekly" or something, but don't we all want to be liked (and approached) for who we truly are?

And hopefully, any guy who might be kind enough to notice me will also hopefully be keen enough to notice I'm wearing a pair of shorts I've had for 6 years (via Old Navy), and my favorite Spiderman t-shirt (now that's MY idea of "high-swinging fashion".)

Do you find yourself fighting stereotypes about who you are?

Tell us about them.

And, what do you do to cope?
 
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I'm just impressed that a 70 yr old man still goes to the gym.

I don't recall ever being stereotyped unless being called racial slurs by bullies in school counts.
 
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missy2014

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well no disrespect intendend to the 'young at heart' but sometimes old folks blurt out stuff like that its kinda insulting but somewhat humourous cause its so random , unexpected. When I was in Dunedin a City in the South Island of New Zealand for the first time I was eating chocholate and some elderly man remarks : Dont eat chocholate itll give you pimples (im laughing as I type because what he said next) ah... I see youve already got some " :D
It was almost a scene out of candid camera it was awkward and funny
 
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missy2014

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IF Im honest this isnt neccasarily self imposed but also from being in the west and NZ in the past Ive struggled with the stereotype that "im suppose to be snobby" but frankly even looking back tht just wasnt my family's upbringing and even when there were times I struggled with my identity in Christ it never gelled with me.
Ive lived in different cities so ive been apart of different churches in the different seasons. Honestly it hurt me and knew it was wrong but one the church's I called home so many of the folks were real snobs (gold braclets and alot of them dressed really well) it didnt help that the church was situated in a area that was known for the rich upper class I just wasnt born on that side of the tracks . Sadly when my friends in that church were like fathers who had high paying jobs or they their family was involved in ministry I remember one time feeling so out of it and nearly cried thats how much pressure I felt because I didnt want to tell them my father was working at a petrol station struggling with the work hours I was hiding that fact and was ashamed.
 
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coby

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Didn't he understand that women look, look and buy nothing?
 
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Miri

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My thoughts, unless it's an important person or someone who means a lot
to you (parents, boss, Jesus etc), then don't give a stuff about what others think of
you. The phrase "water off a ducks back" comes to mind. :)


Fortunately being a mixed race, saxophone player, middle aged with burgandy/purple hair,
strangers don't tend to pass comment as I don't fit into any of their perceived boxes! Lol


Oh and Coby, I can window shop for hours!
 
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coby

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My thoughts, unless it's an important person or someone who means a lot
to you (parents, boss, Jesus etc), then don't give a stuff about what others think of
you. The phrase "water off a ducks back" comes to mind. :)


Fortunately being a mixed race, saxophone player, middle aged with burgandy/purple hair,
strangers don't tend to pass comment as I don't fit into any of their perceived boxes! Lol


Oh and Coby, I can window shop for hours!
I once went shopping with my brother. He needed new clothes. He walked in one store, took what he needed and we were ready hahahahahahaha.
 
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Miri

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I once went shopping with my brother. He needed new clothes. He walked in one store, took what he needed and we were ready hahahahahahaha.

I really don't get how men manage to do that - sorry I'm digressing
from the original subject - slaps own hand.

Anyway Seoul if reading a fashion mag passes time and it's
interesting then why not.
 

seoulsearch

OutWrite Trouble
May 23, 2009
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I'm just impressed that a 70 yr old man still goes to the gym.
The gym I go to is all people over the age of 55--everyone there is in their 50's, 60's, 70's and up. I'm usually always the youngest person there. I know people who have a regular membership there and am able to go there as their guest by default, so that's why I go to that particular place. The only "younger" people you might see there are the members' relatives or friends.

When I was in Dunedin a City in the South Island of New Zealand for the first time I was eating chocholate and some elderly man remarks : Dont eat chocholate itll give you pimples (im laughing as I type because what he said next) ah... I see youve already got some " :D
It was almost a scene out of candid camera it was awkward and funny
You have a great attitude about things, Missy. I need to absorb some of that.

One of my pet peeves is when people give unsolicited advice that's really an insult, because I always want to say something smart right back to them.
 

seoulsearch

OutWrite Trouble
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My thoughts, unless it's an important person or someone who means a lot
to you (parents, boss, Jesus etc), then don't give a stuff about what others think of
you. The phrase "water off a ducks back" comes to mind. :)


Fortunately being a mixed race, saxophone player, middle aged with burgandy/purple hair,
strangers don't tend to pass comment as I don't fit into any of their perceived boxes! Lol


Oh and Coby, I can window shop for hours!
This is awesome, Miri!!! :D

And I know what you ladies mean about the shopping. I love to just look. In fact, sometimes I'll see something in a magazine that I THINK I want but once I actually see it in person, the novelty wears off and I find out I don't really need it. I once took some friends to a big fancy mall a couple hours of away... We were there all day and I went home empty-handed. The only thing I bought was lunch.

One of my guy friends said, "Oh no, we didn't drive all this way for you to not get anything. You are going back in there and buying something, right now!!" And the funny thing is, this guy was really frugal and conservative himself.

But he also had all sisters, and couldn't understand how a woman could just look and not buy!
 

tourist

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IF Im honest this isnt neccasarily self imposed but also from being in the west and NZ in the past Ive struggled with the stereotype that "im suppose to be snobby" but frankly even looking back tht just wasnt my family's upbringing and even when there were times I struggled with my identity in Christ it never gelled with me.
Ive lived in different cities so ive been apart of different churches in the different seasons. Honestly it hurt me and knew it was wrong but one the church's I called home so many of the folks were real snobs (gold braclets and alot of them dressed really well) it didnt help that the church was situated in a area that was known for the rich upper class I just wasnt born on that side of the tracks . Sadly when my friends in that church were like fathers who had high paying jobs or they their family was involved in ministry I remember one time feeling so out of it and nearly cried thats how much pressure I felt because I didnt want to tell them my father was working at a petrol station struggling with the work hours I was hiding that fact and was ashamed.
I admire anyone that works no matter what the job is. If you do your best all work is honorable. There is no need to be ashamed of your father. I would be proud of him. I wasn't born on that side of the tracks that you have described either.
 

Oncefallen

Idiot in Chief
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Jan 15, 2011
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I'm just impressed that a 70 yr old man still goes to the gym.
There you go stereotyping old folks. :p

My folks (in their mid 70's) walk their dog an average of 3-5 miles a day and when the weather is less agreeable and they don't walk the dog as far they make it up at the YMCA. The baby boomers are probably the most health conscious generation (when it comes to their age group) in history.
 
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Hey Everyone,

If you were to ever see me in public, most likely, I would be reading something. I hate "wasted space" when it comes to time, so whether I'm waiting at a doctor's office, on a break at work, eating alone, or on a treadmill, I'm almost always reading something.

And the number one thing you'll find me reading is a fashion magazine. This is because they're cheap (no one reads things in print anymore, so they're often $5 a year for a subscription), easy-to-read (convenient when facing sudden interruptions), and because they're mine (and not from the library), I don't have to worry if they get torn up or accidentally left behind. I always carry cheap, easy reading materials in my car and in my backpack. I also carry devotionals but usually finish with them pretty quickly.

I have always wondered if people were judging me for what I'm reading. Today I got my answer.

I was at the gym and, in typical fashion (pun intended), was reading a woman's fashion magazine while working out on a stationary bike. Suddenly, out of nowhere, a man in his 70's walked up to me and said, "Now don't go spending all your money on that garbage!" I had to bite my lip (REALLY hard) to keep from saying something sarcastic, but I simply answered, "Oh, I don't buy any of it, I just like to read about it." I shouldn't have to explain myself, but anyone who knows me here knows I am about as opposite from what he assumed as you can get.

I have often wondered if I've missed out on dates from men (hopefully not all 30 years older!!) who saw me reading things like "Vogue"--and assumed I was just another fluffy-headed, self-centered, materialistic woman (as women seem to be so-often stereotyped) who only cares about fashion and expects a man to buy her all the latest material things. As I said, I'm pretty sure today was my resounding answer, and it was discouraging beyond belief.

Another major reason as to why I read fashion magazines is because I'm studying the pictures and trying to figure out how to copy certain elements of the design. As most of you know, clothing construction is one of my hobbies, and one of my dreams is to one day sew clothes for people who are hard to fit (smaller or larger than traditional sizes)/, differently-abled with special needs, and/or self-conscious about features that can be camouflaged by good design. My main interest is always function over frivolity (as well as quality, which is why I like to look at the high-end examples), but everyone wants to look their best, so I understand that color, form, and style are important, too.

The thing is, most guys aren't going to automatically understand that I'm also reading articles about couture sewing techniques I'd like to try myself (all they'll see is me flipping pages upon pages of clothes, leaving them with the impression that this is all I care about.) They'll see me carrying magazines with glossy pictures of glamorized celebrities on the cover, but they don't realize I'm also currently reading an article about how women are surviving in war-torn countries. And I understand that--all of us, to an extent, judge others by what we see (or see them doing.)

I guess all I can do is pray that if I run into Mr. Right someday and I happen to be reading a copy of "Vogue", he'll at least be somewhat open-minded as to why I'm looking at pictures of high-end clothes. I suppose I could try to carry around copies of "Business Weekly" or something, but don't we all want to be liked (and approached) for who we truly are?

And hopefully, any guy who might be kind enough to notice me will also hopefully be keen enough to notice I'm wearing a pair of shorts I've had for 6 years (via Old Navy), and my favorite Spiderman t-shirt (now that's MY idea of "high-swinging fashion".)

Do you find yourself fighting stereotypes about who you are?

Tell us about them.

And, what do you do to cope?
Lol not to be the stereotypist but I have noticed virtually all women I have met or seen in offline real life read these types of magazines. Personally I kinda conspiracy theorist on that one and think it's where a lot of how we shall say American woman problems come from. Like the models, body types/images problems, female inferiority complexes,, beauty s/care product madness, etc.

Lol that be part of the stereotype the Ancients forewarned us about, the American Woman:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkqfpkTTy2w
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Miri

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Stereotypical man and woman reading vogue :D

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Lynx

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I once went shopping with my brother. He needed new clothes. He walked in one store, took what he needed and we were ready hahahahahahaha.
Yup. When men go shopping they already know which store and what shelf it is on before they leave the house. :cool:

Kim I can relate. My grandmother gets Birds & Blooms magazine and Country magazine, but it's not because she wants to read about birds and blooms or life in the country. She's looking for another picture she can paint.

For myself, I find it is very convenient to be underestimated. The kind of person who makes an assumption about me is the kind of person I didn't want to talk to anyway. Also being underestimated makes it really easy to blow their minds if I want to, just by doing something that disproves the assumption they made about me.

One day I brought my little ThinkPad laptop to work. It looks like something from 1998, not sleek and stylish like modern laptops. Actually it is designed to look like a bento box. But it is durable, always works perfectly and it has a wifi antenna that picks up signals better than any other computer I've ever had. Our manager, who is a mac fanboy... er, fangirl... bounced through and said, "Who's dinosaur is that in the breakroom?"
So I got to tell her about that "dinosaur" being able to pull in wifi that her mac swears doesn't exist. :D
 
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missy2014

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The gym I go to is all people over the age of 55--everyone there is in their 50's, 60's, 70's and up. I'm usually always the youngest person there. I know people who have a regular membership there and am able to go there as their guest by default, so that's why I go to that particular place. The only "younger" people you might see there are the members' relatives or friends.



You have a great attitude about things, Missy. I need to absorb some of that.

One of my pet peeves is when people give unsolicited advice that's really an insult, because I always want to say something smart right back to them.
actually I was really peeved at him and might have actually swore I didnt put that part in but thanks though for the compliment
 
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missy2014

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I admire anyone that works no matter what the job is. If you do your best all work is honorable. There is no need to be ashamed of your father. I would be proud of him. I wasn't born on that side of the tracks that you have described either.
My Dad like zeros signature thing - he's the man he still even this week works very hard is caring and a lovely person.
 

Reborn

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How Does One Person Single-Handedly Fight Off a Stereotype?

I fight off the Asian stereotypes with Martial Arts.




We all know how to roundhouse kick and swing a sword while running up the side of a building, ya know.