In Heaven, How Are Christians Going to Get Along With Each Other?
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Heavens buggle here. Another dispute arose today on who gets the better chair at the feast.
I like your speculation, but there are a lot of issues that are unknown, until we get there.
Do we sleep, or 24hours awake? What about food, shelter, rain etc?
Do we have to work or is everything a shared community with no ownership?
Is there such a thing as breakages or things wearing out?
In reality I think a lot of things will be resolved because status is not an issue, or insecurity about our futures.
I like your speculation, but there are a lot of issues that are unknown, until we get there.
Do we sleep, or 24hours awake? What about food, shelter, rain etc?
Do we have to work or is everything a shared community with no ownership?
Is there such a thing as breakages or things wearing out?
In reality I think a lot of things will be resolved because status is not an issue, or insecurity about our futures.
Okay, now that I'm off my phone and at a real computer I can make a real post.
I'm reminded of what Mr. Crichton said in his second dinosaur book, "The Lost World." He said animals fight over territory, food, etc. Only humans fight over beliefs. But they fight over beliefs for the same reason - because beliefs control actions. If you believe something that contradicts what I believe, that is perceived as much a threat as one animal strolling through another's territory. This is one reason people argue so much here in the good ole' forum.
Another reason is because it feels good to prove you are right about something. Some go looking for arguments so they can hammer opposing opinions down and feel good about themselves because "I'm right and you're wrong and I proved it." Over time these people narrow down on a handful of arguments they like to rant about, because they have honed their talking points on these particular topics and it's easy to get that "I'm right" feeling. You'll notice them coming into a thread and somehow turning it into a thread about whatever their favorite topics are.
The third reason is entertainment. Some people are just so bored they argue about things because they have nothing better to do. :-/
To the OP question: I have no idea how such people will get along with anybody. If they show up in Heaven I hope they will be better there than they are here. If not, I will keep as much distance from them there as I do here.
I'm reminded of what Mr. Crichton said in his second dinosaur book, "The Lost World." He said animals fight over territory, food, etc. Only humans fight over beliefs. But they fight over beliefs for the same reason - because beliefs control actions. If you believe something that contradicts what I believe, that is perceived as much a threat as one animal strolling through another's territory. This is one reason people argue so much here in the good ole' forum.
Another reason is because it feels good to prove you are right about something. Some go looking for arguments so they can hammer opposing opinions down and feel good about themselves because "I'm right and you're wrong and I proved it." Over time these people narrow down on a handful of arguments they like to rant about, because they have honed their talking points on these particular topics and it's easy to get that "I'm right" feeling. You'll notice them coming into a thread and somehow turning it into a thread about whatever their favorite topics are.
The third reason is entertainment. Some people are just so bored they argue about things because they have nothing better to do. :-/
To the OP question: I have no idea how such people will get along with anybody. If they show up in Heaven I hope they will be better there than they are here. If not, I will keep as much distance from them there as I do here.
Then there are those who intentionally misinterpret what you say so they can criticize you for it...
http://dilbert.com/strip/2015-11-19
I have no idea how they will get along with anyone either, should they somehow make it to Heaven.
http://dilbert.com/strip/2015-11-19
I have no idea how they will get along with anyone either, should they somehow make it to Heaven.
Okay... after catching up in that other thread I made a startling observation. It's amazing how they stopped yelling at each other when they all had a troll to berate. Currently the people who were putting each other down seem to be best buddies. And it all started when a troll came in and they all joined hands to beat him (or her... consensus about gender of said troll is divided) down.
Maybe we'll all get along in Heaven because we'll have someone in common to beat on. Maybe we'll import the devil up to Heaven on specially assigned "beat up the devil" days, just to promote harmony among people who would otherwise beat each other up.
What? It's possible!
Maybe we'll all get along in Heaven because we'll have someone in common to beat on. Maybe we'll import the devil up to Heaven on specially assigned "beat up the devil" days, just to promote harmony among people who would otherwise beat each other up.
What? It's possible!
J
Did I step into the BDF???? Everyone knows BDF gets me wiled up!!!
I believe that every question, every fear, every doubt, every pain, every horrible event simply will disappear. I believe we arrive in heaven and will be full of peace, knowledge, happiness and WILL NOT recognize those whom have harmed us. We will not know what people believed or did not believe...that would be like knowing their sins and since I am not GOD I do not believe he would tell me everyone's sins or share mine. HEAVEN will be a place of peace and tranquility!!!!!
I believe that every question, every fear, every doubt, every pain, every horrible event simply will disappear. I believe we arrive in heaven and will be full of peace, knowledge, happiness and WILL NOT recognize those whom have harmed us. We will not know what people believed or did not believe...that would be like knowing their sins and since I am not GOD I do not believe he would tell me everyone's sins or share mine. HEAVEN will be a place of peace and tranquility!!!!!
But if that be the case, what exactly will be left of ourselves that we can call ourselves? If so much of the history that has shaped us disappears (regardless of how horrible), would we be ourselves as opposed to the programmable robots that we keep claiming God never wanted us to be (do a memory wife (whoops I meant wipe but some typos are too entertaining to correct) download the peace, joy, love, and harmony operating system and poof instant good christian worthy of heaven, but is it still the "same person")?
J
LOL at memory wipe!!!! I think you arrive in peace and have every answer to every question and your joy and peace encases you that you never have those horrible memories. We are ourselves, but our ULTIMATE SELF!!! The sinless, happy self that God intended. Remember Adam and Eve were sinless in the beginning. There was peace, happiness and a bond with God like no other human has had or will until they are in Heaven.
Okay... after catching up in that other thread I made a startling observation. It's amazing how they stopped yelling at each other when they all had a troll to berate. Currently the people who were putting each other down seem to be best buddies. And it all started when a troll came in and they all joined hands to beat him (or her... consensus about gender of said troll is divided) down.
Maybe we'll all get along in Heaven because we'll have someone in common to beat on. Maybe we'll import the devil up to Heaven on specially assigned "beat up the devil" days, just to promote harmony among people who would otherwise beat each other up.
What? It's possible!
Maybe we'll all get along in Heaven because we'll have someone in common to beat on. Maybe we'll import the devil up to Heaven on specially assigned "beat up the devil" days, just to promote harmony among people who would otherwise beat each other up.
What? It's possible!
I just watched "Jurassic World" and the activity in any "Biblical Discussion" or current event thread here is like a pack of velociraptors going after a common target.
The rest of us are kind of like Chris Pratt on a motorbike trying to keep up and watching where they're all going as they all "herd" the target into the "kill zone."
Instead of dangling a shark, pig, or goat, someone should just stand at the entrance of every thread and shout, "Ok, Charlie... RELEASE THE TROLL!!"
And for the record, I am all for defending God's Word in truth. However, what seems to happen most is that most people assume their own opinions ARE God's truth and what they're actually "standing up for" is their own pride... which is something I have to look out for myself, and a good reason as to why I rarely post in BDF threads.
It's going to be easy.
First, our sin nature (read this as PRIDE) which for many is the root of many divisions will finally be put down for good and creation will be restored to what it once was in the Garden of Eden.
Second, things like Doctrinal issues that we argue about are going to be resolved for good. We will all know which doctrines we hung our hats on were right and which ones were off base. (I'm quite sure most of us will be surprised to one degree or another)
Third, many persons who claimed to be Christians won't be there anyway. (Matt 7:21-23)
First, our sin nature (read this as PRIDE) which for many is the root of many divisions will finally be put down for good and creation will be restored to what it once was in the Garden of Eden.
Second, things like Doctrinal issues that we argue about are going to be resolved for good. We will all know which doctrines we hung our hats on were right and which ones were off base. (I'm quite sure most of us will be surprised to one degree or another)
Third, many persons who claimed to be Christians won't be there anyway. (Matt 7:21-23)
This thread reminds me of an old joke. I won't use the name of the denomination in question.
So one day a christian gets run over by a bus and winds up in Heaven. St. Peter (of course) meets him at the gate and shows him around. Heaven is pretty much as expected, except for one area that is walled off. When they get near that area St. Peter tells the new arrival to be really quiet until they get some distance from those walls.
"Why?" asks the new arrival. "Who are they?"
Peter says, "Those are (insert denomination name here) and they think they are the only ones up here."
So one day a christian gets run over by a bus and winds up in Heaven. St. Peter (of course) meets him at the gate and shows him around. Heaven is pretty much as expected, except for one area that is walled off. When they get near that area St. Peter tells the new arrival to be really quiet until they get some distance from those walls.
"Why?" asks the new arrival. "Who are they?"
Peter says, "Those are (insert denomination name here) and they think they are the only ones up here."
Hey folks,
Since the Singles Forum has (hopefully) temporarily turned into The Bible Forum Addendum anyway...
I was wondering. How are Christians going to get along in heaven, since one look at the Bible Forum and other various threads is a reminder that we often disagree to the point of calling names or questioning each other's salvation?
I've always heard it said that when we get to heaven, you'll see some people there you would have never expected to see, and you'll also realize a lot of people you thought would be there... aren't.
When I read about the "lion lying down with the lamb", I often wonder if that's directed at humans and not animals.
So, how will heaven be different?
* Will only people with the exact same beliefs (aside from believing in Jesus as their Savior, of course) make it to heaven?
* Will we all suddenly not care so anymore about what we're willing to fight tooth and nail over here?
* Will it be because we'll be without sin, and can finally let go of our differences in order to accept people?
I was thinking of an incidence I know of at a church in which the senior pastor promised the youth/assistant pastor a larger role in the church, and, several years down the road, the chance to take over leading the congregation.
These two men had the exact same theological beliefs. But the senior pastor was getting older and thinking about what kind of impact he would leave behind, and he became concerned that this young man was gaining too much popularity and "stealing" his sheep.
The younger pastor was suddenly no longer allowed to preach, and was even denied the opportunity to speak about his missionary trips in order to try to raise funding. He eventually left the church, and the senior pastor wasn't exactly sorry to see him go (and was actually trying to get him to leave.)
Please don't get caught up in just this particular example. My only reason for giving it is that these two men have the SAME beliefs in faith, but enough personal differences to kill the relationship and cause a split within in a congregation.
But in heaven, how will differences like this be solved? Will we not remember the arguments we had with people on earth?
Or, because pride will no longer have a stranglehold on any of us, will we just be able to see each other with the clear, sinless eyes God intended? Just something I've been thinking about for a while.
Thoughts and Scriptures are welcome.
And please, let's not argue in this thread, but rather, talk about the day when we'll all put our differences aside. Thanks in advance!
Since the Singles Forum has (hopefully) temporarily turned into The Bible Forum Addendum anyway...
I was wondering. How are Christians going to get along in heaven, since one look at the Bible Forum and other various threads is a reminder that we often disagree to the point of calling names or questioning each other's salvation?
I've always heard it said that when we get to heaven, you'll see some people there you would have never expected to see, and you'll also realize a lot of people you thought would be there... aren't.
When I read about the "lion lying down with the lamb", I often wonder if that's directed at humans and not animals.
So, how will heaven be different?
* Will only people with the exact same beliefs (aside from believing in Jesus as their Savior, of course) make it to heaven?
* Will we all suddenly not care so anymore about what we're willing to fight tooth and nail over here?
* Will it be because we'll be without sin, and can finally let go of our differences in order to accept people?
I was thinking of an incidence I know of at a church in which the senior pastor promised the youth/assistant pastor a larger role in the church, and, several years down the road, the chance to take over leading the congregation.
These two men had the exact same theological beliefs. But the senior pastor was getting older and thinking about what kind of impact he would leave behind, and he became concerned that this young man was gaining too much popularity and "stealing" his sheep.
The younger pastor was suddenly no longer allowed to preach, and was even denied the opportunity to speak about his missionary trips in order to try to raise funding. He eventually left the church, and the senior pastor wasn't exactly sorry to see him go (and was actually trying to get him to leave.)
Please don't get caught up in just this particular example. My only reason for giving it is that these two men have the SAME beliefs in faith, but enough personal differences to kill the relationship and cause a split within in a congregation.
But in heaven, how will differences like this be solved? Will we not remember the arguments we had with people on earth?
Or, because pride will no longer have a stranglehold on any of us, will we just be able to see each other with the clear, sinless eyes God intended? Just something I've been thinking about for a while.
Thoughts and Scriptures are welcome.
And please, let's not argue in this thread, but rather, talk about the day when we'll all put our differences aside. Thanks in advance!
(Matthew 18:3 NIV)
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Hey folks,
Since the Singles Forum has (hopefully) temporarily turned into The Bible Forum Addendum anyway...
I was wondering. How are Christians going to get along in heaven, since one look at the Bible Forum and other various threads is a reminder that we often disagree to the point of calling names or questioning each other's salvation?
I've always heard it said that when we get to heaven, you'll see some people there you would have never expected to see, and you'll also realize a lot of people you thought would be there... aren't.
When I read about the "lion lying down with the lamb", I often wonder if that's directed at humans and not animals.
So, how will heaven be different?
* Will only people with the exact same beliefs (aside from believing in Jesus as their Savior, of course) make it to heaven?
* Will we all suddenly not care so anymore about what we're willing to fight tooth and nail over here?
* Will it be because we'll be without sin, and can finally let go of our differences in order to accept people?
I was thinking of an incidence I know of at a church in which the senior pastor promised the youth/assistant pastor a larger role in the church, and, several years down the road, the chance to take over leading the congregation.
These two men had the exact same theological beliefs. But the senior pastor was getting older and thinking about what kind of impact he would leave behind, and he became concerned that this young man was gaining too much popularity and "stealing" his sheep.
The younger pastor was suddenly no longer allowed to preach, and was even denied the opportunity to speak about his missionary trips in order to try to raise funding. He eventually left the church, and the senior pastor wasn't exactly sorry to see him go (and was actually trying to get him to leave.)
Please don't get caught up in just this particular example. My only reason for giving it is that these two men have the SAME beliefs in faith, but enough personal differences to kill the relationship and cause a split within in a congregation.
But in heaven, how will differences like this be solved? Will we not remember the arguments we had with people on earth?
Or, because pride will no longer have a stranglehold on any of us, will we just be able to see each other with the clear, sinless eyes God intended? Just something I've been thinking about for a while.
Thoughts and Scriptures are welcome.
And please, let's not argue in this thread, but rather, talk about the day when we'll all put our differences aside. Thanks in advance!
Since the Singles Forum has (hopefully) temporarily turned into The Bible Forum Addendum anyway...
I was wondering. How are Christians going to get along in heaven, since one look at the Bible Forum and other various threads is a reminder that we often disagree to the point of calling names or questioning each other's salvation?
I've always heard it said that when we get to heaven, you'll see some people there you would have never expected to see, and you'll also realize a lot of people you thought would be there... aren't.
When I read about the "lion lying down with the lamb", I often wonder if that's directed at humans and not animals.
So, how will heaven be different?
* Will only people with the exact same beliefs (aside from believing in Jesus as their Savior, of course) make it to heaven?
* Will we all suddenly not care so anymore about what we're willing to fight tooth and nail over here?
* Will it be because we'll be without sin, and can finally let go of our differences in order to accept people?
I was thinking of an incidence I know of at a church in which the senior pastor promised the youth/assistant pastor a larger role in the church, and, several years down the road, the chance to take over leading the congregation.
These two men had the exact same theological beliefs. But the senior pastor was getting older and thinking about what kind of impact he would leave behind, and he became concerned that this young man was gaining too much popularity and "stealing" his sheep.
The younger pastor was suddenly no longer allowed to preach, and was even denied the opportunity to speak about his missionary trips in order to try to raise funding. He eventually left the church, and the senior pastor wasn't exactly sorry to see him go (and was actually trying to get him to leave.)
Please don't get caught up in just this particular example. My only reason for giving it is that these two men have the SAME beliefs in faith, but enough personal differences to kill the relationship and cause a split within in a congregation.
But in heaven, how will differences like this be solved? Will we not remember the arguments we had with people on earth?
Or, because pride will no longer have a stranglehold on any of us, will we just be able to see each other with the clear, sinless eyes God intended? Just something I've been thinking about for a while.
Thoughts and Scriptures are welcome.
And please, let's not argue in this thread, but rather, talk about the day when we'll all put our differences aside. Thanks in advance!
I just always look at things like the BDF and think, "Is THIS the abundant Christian life we're told about? When we try to give our testimonies in Jesus to others, especially unbelievers, is THIS what we should tell them they can look forward to?"
This is, after all, what we sound like to the world: "Come be a Christian so you can be part of a huge cat fighting mess that never gets along and throws each other into lion's den with words."
I am all about defending God's Word. But I think the line between defending God's Word... and defending one's pride conveniently blanketed in the Word... is about as wide as a strand of dental floss.
And I also wonder, when we get to heaven, and some say, "I spent my entire life on boards like this, calling out these idiots to their faces in Your Name, O Lord!"
Everyone assumes God is going to tell them, "Well done, my good and faithful servant!"
But how many will actually be told, "Away from me, I never knew you." ?
This is, after all, what we sound like to the world: "Come be a Christian so you can be part of a huge cat fighting mess that never gets along and throws each other into lion's den with words."
I am all about defending God's Word. But I think the line between defending God's Word... and defending one's pride conveniently blanketed in the Word... is about as wide as a strand of dental floss.
And I also wonder, when we get to heaven, and some say, "I spent my entire life on boards like this, calling out these idiots to their faces in Your Name, O Lord!"
Everyone assumes God is going to tell them, "Well done, my good and faithful servant!"
But how many will actually be told, "Away from me, I never knew you." ?
L
yep...humanity tends to get the best of Christians...cat fighting, judging, condemning, name calling. None of us are innocent. I think when we get to heaven, all we have to do is look upon the face of our savior, and we well fall flat on our faces in all humility, realizing that none of that other stuff matters. It's fruitless...worthless..nothingness, compared the to our God.