Is higher educaton (PhD, Masters, etc.) a secular or a Christian activity, or both?

[JaumeJ]

What does it mean in the teaching that we, as children of the Most High, should not destroy ourselves with what is called knowledge?

My belief and understanding on this lesson is pretty basic.

Nothing that will not survive the "fire next time" is worth being weighted down by.

Only the truth that is eternal is true knowledge and the wisdom from our Father is the only lasting and true wisdom

I am perfectly capable of making reference to the geologic column, that is the time scale given the earth by geological research and determinations, but I truly co not, cannot, believe it.

Plate tectonics is a fairly simple school of thought on the struction and strtigraphy of land masses comprising the earth and its layers. I apply it to what mankind things when necesary, but I believe God, not men's theories.

Any child can punch holes in the theory of evolution, yet it is also easy enough to understand. Again, this is not truly knowledge none of the aforementioned scientific pander will survive the changeover come our Father's time to speak that word.

Astrophysics is laughable in the long run but easily applied; again, it is not enduring.

Do not get hung up on what flesh calls knowledge, it is not eternal.

 

[Depleted]

Whether its a PhD or Masters, it's a degree. Nothing more, nothing less....

It's designed to qualify a person for an advanced position in their field. Just like there are Associates and Bachelor's degrees designed to qualify a person for entry-level positions.

I'm proud of my husband. I went to college for four years to get a liberal arts degree and had no idea what to do with it when I was done.

He got up early the morning after he was done active duty and walked into a TV Repair shop down the street to ask for a job. The owner told him it was a stupid idea, because it wouldn't be long before people bought new TVs instead of get the one they had fixed, so go learn a trade. There was a heating company up the street.

Hubby walked up the street and asked them for a job. They took him on... to sweep floors, until he learned how to do the job. So, government paid for 18 months of night school for him to become a HVAC mechanic. He knows how much heater or air-conditioner you need by doing the math to calculate the need. I don't even have a clue what a BTU is, other than to say the words too. (British Thermal Unit. No idea what that means other than how much heat is required per dimensions of the building it's being installed in.)

During his schooling, he got a bit cocky, (as young men are supposed to be lol), and showed the boss how well he swept the floor. When the boss looked at him like he had a hole in his head, he put the broom against the wall, assured him he got sweeping down really well, so, since the boss was getting paid by the Navy to hire him to learn heating, if he wasn't going to learn how to do heating, he sure wasn't going to learn more about sweeping.

Boss grabbed the broom, called him a smart-***, and made him an assistant to the man whose wife would bring him to the Lord.

After he graduated school, he took a correspondence course to learn more. After we were married for a couple of years, he broke his back, so spent a semester in community college while healing.

Since he broke his back, he couldn't work on the street anymore, so landed a safe place to keep working on heating -- the US government. (They're big on worker's safety.) And there he took two week courses on everything from how to work on steam pipes to how to remove asbestos. All in all, he spent about the same amount of time I took to get a degree.

And, for a hobby, in those years, he took to studying the Bible at night. Four hours per night. (I had Atari to play with. lol) He studied people with names like John Owen, Francis Schaeffer, Boettner, and Van Til. (I dare anyone who doesn't know Dutch as their native language to try and study Van Til. He might have written in English, but he thought in Dutch. lol)

And then the base was closing down, so he needed a new job -- 13 months, four nights a week, four hours per night to learn computer networking. And, in that 13 months, he started with the networking system 75% of businesses used -- Novell. And by the time he was done, 90% of businesses used Microsoft, so he had to unlearn the one and learn the other in the time it should have taken him to learn one.

All in all, he was a tradesmen with twice the schooling I ever got.

(A tribute to the other kind of education -- trade schools.)

 

[Lynx]

JaumeJ at this point I would like to register my opinion that if my doctor does not have some kind of degree it will make me very nervous. If I ever need surgery the surgeon had sure better have a degree and I would like the mayor of my town to have some kind of education in business at least.

 

[Yahweh_is_gracious]

The only truly useful skill I have learned through all my 19+ years of higher education is the ability to question everything I am told or read, and how to go about verifying it or debunking it. Beyond that, my higher education has been a waste of over $100,000 dollars and the aforementioned 19+ years of my life. I can think of worse ways to grind through years of my life though.

 

[Zi]

What does this have to do with degrees? This is about God teaching, showing and opening one up to Himself and His wisdom and knowledge..

Apparently Christian:

10 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding. Prov. 9:10

—Prov910

 

[JaumeJ]

Did I not cover thisin my post? I am going today for another procedure on my eyes. The procedure may work, but itis not eternal.

God gave us Luke, also a doctor of mdicene. The woman with the eighteen year hemmorage certainly went back to the dust even though she was healed by our Lord.

What is worthy of eternity has nothing to do with this age. I realize it is difficult to absossrb this, but faith in Jesus Christ will get us all through.

Many things I do not understand fromt he Word I simply believe, in faith, and I am always comforted. You may come back now with that is a fool's consolation, well to unbelievers the Gospel of Jesus Christ isssssss a fool's consolation.

I much rather would be a fool in the eyes of men for the sake of Jesus christ than to be a fool in His eyes for the sake of flesh.

JaumeJ at this point I would like to register my opinion that if my doctor does not have some kind of degree it will make me very nervous. If I ever need surgery the surgeon had sure better have a degree and I would like the mayor of my town to have some kind of education in business at least.

 

[Oncefallen]

1st Cor 10[SUP]:31 [/SUP]So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God. (ESV)

I would argue that just about everything a Christian does has spiritual significance.

 

[Galatea]

However much a degree may be disparaged, a college education is valuable for its own sake. The last year of college, I basically took art history and history classes. I derived a lot of pleasure from these courses, and anything that is not inherently evil is good for us. I think God is well pleased when we think, after all, He gave us brains and a sense of curiosity and wonder. Somehow, I don’t think we were meant to be constricted by our own ignorance. The Protestant Reformation majored on education. Luther was so bold as to suggest girls be educated just like boys. The printing press got Bibles into the hands of regular people. Education is a fine thing, worthy of time and effort.