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What makes someone getting married while in College wrong? Do they cut your course credits in half or something?
Well, the time for subtlety has passed. Do yourself a favor and read the rest of this post, and then stop placing even a single shred of your self worth on the shoulders of your sexual escapades. I'm really trying to help here.
Dudes who brag about their sexual escapades? Major red flag - too focused on the wrong bodily parts. It shows a lack of maturity, it turns off any decent woman (even the ones who want to have premarital sex), and it shows a crap load of insecurity. You might as well brag about how good you are at going to the bathroom. It's a normal bodily function for a large portion of the population.
Statistically speaking, you probably fall somewhere on the average end of the spectrum (because that's why it's called an average). And the funny thing about being average is it's something that most people can attain. So a newlywed couple might have some "studying" to do to reach average (whatever the heck that is in this case), but it's not like they can later on go bragging about how awesome they are in the bedroom. They're probably average, and honestly, who the heck cares - not them, and certainly not any one else.
And I'll give you a pointer here. Every woman who isn't emotionally scarred should appreciate what her husband can do in the bedroom. Even the ladies who wait for marriage want sex, or they wouldn't bother getting married (with some exceptions, like the ones who do it for status or power, who knows what you're getting there). There is no magic formula for a relationship where the woman who waits is some frigid ice queen.
Full disclosure, I'm not trying to claim that I'm perfect in this department. I've had troubles with pornography off and on, including dates that were far too recent for my liking (or for any decent woman's liking to be honest). I have nothing to gain by even discussing this crap with you. Absolutely nothing. I'm doing it because you need to hear it.
Well, the time for subtlety has passed. Do yourself a favor and read the rest of this post, and then stop placing even a single shred of your self worth on the shoulders of your sexual escapades. I'm really trying to help here.
Dudes who brag about their sexual escapades? Major red flag - too focused on the wrong bodily parts. It shows a lack of maturity, it turns off any decent woman (even the ones who want to have premarital sex), and it shows a crap load of insecurity. You might as well brag about how good you are at going to the bathroom. It's a normal bodily function for a large portion of the population.
Statistically speaking, you probably fall somewhere on the average end of the spectrum (because that's why it's called an average). And the funny thing about being average is it's something that most people can attain. So a newlywed couple might have some "studying" to do to reach average (whatever the heck that is in this case), but it's not like they can later on go bragging about how awesome they are in the bedroom. They're probably average, and honestly, who the heck cares - not them, and certainly not any one else.
And I'll give you a pointer here. Every woman who isn't emotionally scarred should appreciate what her husband can do in the bedroom. Even the ladies who wait for marriage want sex, or they wouldn't bother getting married (with some exceptions, like the ones who do it for status or power, who knows what you're getting there). There is no magic formula for a relationship where the woman who waits is some frigid ice queen.
Full disclosure, I'm not trying to claim that I'm perfect in this department. I've had troubles with pornography off and on, including dates that were far too recent for my liking (or for any decent woman's liking to be honest). I have nothing to gain by even discussing this crap with you. Absolutely nothing. I'm doing it because you need to hear it.
M
Everyone handles things differently but with us we couldn't see marriage until after she established herself outside of college. She had a lot on her table with what she was pursuing, we both mutually thought it was important that she put herself first and accomplish the things she needed to before putting the logistics that come with marriage into her head. Some people could handle it she was one of those people who couldn't handle stress very well and I respect that. So maybe I should have put more into that phrase but it wasn't even a thought.
J
i dont think its ok to have sex b4 marriage but im also not sure i think its a sin against our Lord. i really dont know. fornication is the sin and many have different definitions of exactly what that is. its hard for me to believe that a man and woman that love each other and have sex with each other and no one else outside that relationship are no different than homosexuals or those that have wild sex parties.
True, it is not listed as one of the "abominations," but the negative consequences indicate to me that it is an act that God did not approve of:
If a man finds a young woman who is a virgin, who is not betrothed, and he seizes her and lies with her, and they are found out, then the man who lay with her shall give to the young woman's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife because he has humbled her; he shall not be permitted to divorce her all his days. (Deut. 22:28-29)
But if the thing is true, and evidences of virginity are not found for the young woman, then they shall bring out the young woman to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her to death with stones, because she has done a disgraceful thing in Israel, to play the harlot in her father's house. So you shall put away the evil from among you. (Deut. 22:20-21)
I don't believe it needs to be called an abomination for us to know that it is sinful.
If a man finds a young woman who is a virgin, who is not betrothed, and he seizes her and lies with her, and they are found out, then the man who lay with her shall give to the young woman's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife because he has humbled her; he shall not be permitted to divorce her all his days. (Deut. 22:28-29)
But if the thing is true, and evidences of virginity are not found for the young woman, then they shall bring out the young woman to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her to death with stones, because she has done a disgraceful thing in Israel, to play the harlot in her father's house. So you shall put away the evil from among you. (Deut. 22:20-21)
I don't believe it needs to be called an abomination for us to know that it is sinful.
T
Our world is becoming increasingly sexualised. It's always been there, it's just more in the open. If the Church wants to be serious about stopping people from engaging in sexual sin, or at least minimising it, they need to stop treating it as a taboo subject or in some churches, teach more about the seriousness of sin and the holiness of God. There needs to be a vast restructuring about how we deal with this topic. Don't pretend most Christians are virgins, even single ones. Sadly they're not. I understand those who came to Christ later on in life and may have engaged in sexual practices prior to marriage etc. But I'm not talking about them, I'm talking about those people who claim to be Christians and have no problem sleeping around or bedding their girlfriend/boyfriend. Look here, I know the temptations are strong, I know that. But I think we can do a heck of a lot more to shield ourselves from feeding the flame. We can run from temptation. We can run from lust. We can choose not to look. Maybe we just need more accountability in the Church. That's certainly a good start. Just my two cents.
M
First...
I've posted on 18 threads in the past two days, only two consisted of sexual topics. If you're focused only on the relationship section, then I can't help you with your personal judgement on me. Yes, I share my thoughts with a bit of color and fluff just to bring full light on where i'm coming from, not here to offend. With my post's, I'm not trying to impress anyone by showcasing how holy I am and how many bible verses I know. I'm here to help a select few who have marched on the same grounds of war as I have. Respectfully, I'm different and i'm not trying to replicate any of your wonderful heavenly personalities. I'm not going to be a poser for anyone to like me, i'm just going to be me.
Second...
Please continue reading until the very end and open up your mind a bit, maybe you'll learn something from an outsiders perspective instead of stopping on something you're not personally comfortable with. I know most of you are use to helping those who are already in the light, and that's absolutely wonderful because that's where God placed you. But if I say something that's outside of your comfort zone of conversation, I apologize if it offends you.
Not speaking to all but for the very minimal of you, I know i'm going to be a target because I see solutions to problems that are a wee bit different from yours. With that being said, to the threads I enter, I'm very real with my answers because I've been there and won. Sometimes your solutions may look good on paper but if I read the thread and feel it's in need of a second opinion, i'm going to speak my mind so beware. But no matter what I say, God and Jesus will always come first! I'm willing to listen to what y'all have to say as well, I have learned a hell of a lot from observing and from those who answered my questions. Shout out to those who helped me out with the personal thread I made yesterday regarding What God loves? Thank you!
I'm not a bad guy, i'm not here to disrespect any of you because I respect you and we're all here for the same purpose. I'm just going to be real with my post's and if that offends some, then i'm sorry lol. I joined this group because I know I can help others who actually been to war with the seven and the deadly like I have. Like I said I'm not looking for anyone in the CC to like me, you can spit and throw stones at me all you want but i'm here to help the truly wounded. Whether you agree with what I have to say or not, that's fine and I'll always respect your input. Just to test the reader, if you read this whole post and personally reply to it, included the phrase "Jesus Loves You." then I know you actually read the whole thing and you're not out there to simply target the little things.... Haha Thanks!
God Bless Everyone!
-Moose_Almighty-
I've posted on 18 threads in the past two days, only two consisted of sexual topics. If you're focused only on the relationship section, then I can't help you with your personal judgement on me. Yes, I share my thoughts with a bit of color and fluff just to bring full light on where i'm coming from, not here to offend. With my post's, I'm not trying to impress anyone by showcasing how holy I am and how many bible verses I know. I'm here to help a select few who have marched on the same grounds of war as I have. Respectfully, I'm different and i'm not trying to replicate any of your wonderful heavenly personalities. I'm not going to be a poser for anyone to like me, i'm just going to be me.
Second...
Please continue reading until the very end and open up your mind a bit, maybe you'll learn something from an outsiders perspective instead of stopping on something you're not personally comfortable with. I know most of you are use to helping those who are already in the light, and that's absolutely wonderful because that's where God placed you. But if I say something that's outside of your comfort zone of conversation, I apologize if it offends you.
Not speaking to all but for the very minimal of you, I know i'm going to be a target because I see solutions to problems that are a wee bit different from yours. With that being said, to the threads I enter, I'm very real with my answers because I've been there and won. Sometimes your solutions may look good on paper but if I read the thread and feel it's in need of a second opinion, i'm going to speak my mind so beware. But no matter what I say, God and Jesus will always come first! I'm willing to listen to what y'all have to say as well, I have learned a hell of a lot from observing and from those who answered my questions. Shout out to those who helped me out with the personal thread I made yesterday regarding What God loves? Thank you!
I'm not a bad guy, i'm not here to disrespect any of you because I respect you and we're all here for the same purpose. I'm just going to be real with my post's and if that offends some, then i'm sorry lol. I joined this group because I know I can help others who actually been to war with the seven and the deadly like I have. Like I said I'm not looking for anyone in the CC to like me, you can spit and throw stones at me all you want but i'm here to help the truly wounded. Whether you agree with what I have to say or not, that's fine and I'll always respect your input. Just to test the reader, if you read this whole post and personally reply to it, included the phrase "Jesus Loves You." then I know you actually read the whole thing and you're not out there to simply target the little things.... Haha Thanks!
God Bless Everyone!
-Moose_Almighty-
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T
Of course you do, but the fact is that while all sins are equally serious in God's eyes, sexual sin has the most soul-wrenching consequences of all sins because it involves the body and soul. Such things can be forgiven, yes, but we shouldn't downplay the seriousness of these sins and the damage they can do to an unrepentant heart.
That made me think about those who killed... Lives set apart, hopeless children and their families.
What about those who steal? Sometimes these takes money, several lives away, but also last hopes, people´s bread, needed business that would help other families in need...
Something about covet?
No! No!
I don´t see it like God sees.
What about those who steal? Sometimes these takes money, several lives away, but also last hopes, people´s bread, needed business that would help other families in need...
Something about covet?
No! No!
I don´t see it like God sees.
J
i always thought there were some sins worse than others.
Proverbs 6:16
[SUP]16 [/SUP]There are six things the Lord hates,
seven that are detestable to him:
[SUP]17 [/SUP] haughty eyes,
a lying tongue,
hands that shed innocent blood,
[SUP]18 [/SUP] a heart that devises wicked schemes,
feet that are quick to rush into evil,
[SUP]19 [/SUP] a false witness who pours out lies
and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.
Proverbs 6:16
[SUP]16 [/SUP]There are six things the Lord hates,
seven that are detestable to him:
[SUP]17 [/SUP] haughty eyes,
a lying tongue,
hands that shed innocent blood,
[SUP]18 [/SUP] a heart that devises wicked schemes,
feet that are quick to rush into evil,
[SUP]19 [/SUP] a false witness who pours out lies
and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.
S
When all sin commands the same judgment, it is, in effect, all equal.
Romans 5:23 - For the wages of sin is death.
Doesn't say that the wages of SOME sin is death, but other lesser sins are just a small fine and probation. If all sin is to be paid for by a death, then all sin is, in essence, equal. The price for that lie you told your mother when you were 7 years old? DEATH. The price for banging a hooker because you couldn't bring your own flesh into submission? DEATH. The price for mass murdering people on a genocidal scale? DEATH.
Did I just equate telling a lie about your homework in second grade to the acts committed by Hitler and Pol Pot? Oh yes, I did. Because in the end, sin is sin. Romans 3:23 - For ALL have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. ALL sin sentences our flesh and soul to death, no matter what our shallow, flawed, superficial human sensibilities have to say about it.
Leviticus 11:44 and 1 Peter 1:16 - Be holy, for I am holy. That's all it boils down to, more than anything else. Our God is a HOLY GOD, and nothing unholy can withstand His purity. We are MADE holy through the Holiest of Sacrifices that He Himself provided.
ANY sin makes you unholy. So therefore, sin is sin is sin. Period.
(Not that I submit that either Hitler or Pol Pot submitted to Christ before their deaths. Men with the egos to commit such atrocities are not likely to humble themselves before even the Almighty...although, if they had, I believe they would have been forgiven, because THAT'S the power of Christ's holy sacrifice.)
Now, me? I'm just confused, because I don't see all these threads Elijah19 is going on about where sexual sin is being is being posted about everywhere. I've read more about it in THIS ONE THREAD HERE than anywhere else in the first two pages of threads on Singles. Is it going on over in Miscellaneous? Family? Heavenly Recipes? Because, quite honestly, the vast majority of the regulars in Singles are not ever going to say that sex outside of marriage is acceptable.
(And if you've only been around for less than three months, it's hard to call you a 'regular' just yet. Many people come in, post like mad for a month, and vanish forever afterwards.)
I mean, I guess if you go digging through the Singles threads more than a few pages back...well, then you're probably just preaching to ghosts at that point, since, we probably already told them that they shouldn't be doing that, and since they didn't care to hear that...they left. Pretty common occurrence.
Romans 5:23 - For the wages of sin is death.
Doesn't say that the wages of SOME sin is death, but other lesser sins are just a small fine and probation. If all sin is to be paid for by a death, then all sin is, in essence, equal. The price for that lie you told your mother when you were 7 years old? DEATH. The price for banging a hooker because you couldn't bring your own flesh into submission? DEATH. The price for mass murdering people on a genocidal scale? DEATH.
Did I just equate telling a lie about your homework in second grade to the acts committed by Hitler and Pol Pot? Oh yes, I did. Because in the end, sin is sin. Romans 3:23 - For ALL have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. ALL sin sentences our flesh and soul to death, no matter what our shallow, flawed, superficial human sensibilities have to say about it.
Leviticus 11:44 and 1 Peter 1:16 - Be holy, for I am holy. That's all it boils down to, more than anything else. Our God is a HOLY GOD, and nothing unholy can withstand His purity. We are MADE holy through the Holiest of Sacrifices that He Himself provided.
ANY sin makes you unholy. So therefore, sin is sin is sin. Period.
(Not that I submit that either Hitler or Pol Pot submitted to Christ before their deaths. Men with the egos to commit such atrocities are not likely to humble themselves before even the Almighty...although, if they had, I believe they would have been forgiven, because THAT'S the power of Christ's holy sacrifice.)
Now, me? I'm just confused, because I don't see all these threads Elijah19 is going on about where sexual sin is being is being posted about everywhere. I've read more about it in THIS ONE THREAD HERE than anywhere else in the first two pages of threads on Singles. Is it going on over in Miscellaneous? Family? Heavenly Recipes? Because, quite honestly, the vast majority of the regulars in Singles are not ever going to say that sex outside of marriage is acceptable.
(And if you've only been around for less than three months, it's hard to call you a 'regular' just yet. Many people come in, post like mad for a month, and vanish forever afterwards.)
I mean, I guess if you go digging through the Singles threads more than a few pages back...well, then you're probably just preaching to ghosts at that point, since, we probably already told them that they shouldn't be doing that, and since they didn't care to hear that...they left. Pretty common occurrence.
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I think sins are equal in the fact our Lord can forgive a triple murder the same as a lie to your mom, but very different in how far some can carry you from the Lord. A wicked scheme of a banker might be to make predatory loans to poor folks he know will default in 2 years. He makes tons of money off the scheme and hundreds or thousands of families are left homeless. I think an act like this would push you past the point of returning back to our Lord more so than a lie or stealing 20 dollars from your dads wallet. Sin leads to more sin, some sins lead to a multitude of sins and that's the difference in the severity.
that's how i see it anyway.
that's how i see it anyway.
I felt you were both open and honest.....the thing is with sin usually it is fun at least most times and there is always that temptation to do it again once the barn door is open....no pun intended....However, Jesus does say to each one of us Go and sin no more. So as we confess our sins then we need to have learned the lesson and not do it again. We have to learn that sin kills as the wages of sin is death and when we give our hearts to God we do need to learn total submission to Him and learn to walk with the Holy Spirit to help us keep away from sin.
It is best to get to know the person and become that best friend marriage is then the icing on the cake as you have gained a best friend in your spouse and latter in life when things don't work so well you at least have things to share and talk about. Love and relationships are more than just good sex. We are all adults here right? Well maybe not me....but then I'm Blond....
All I know is that I did marry my best friend and I thank God I met him right here on CC....nice place to meet special people. Pay attention Lynx....Blond never gives up hope for you....lol Get out from underneath your rug and look around a bit you might see something you like....lol
It is best to get to know the person and become that best friend marriage is then the icing on the cake as you have gained a best friend in your spouse and latter in life when things don't work so well you at least have things to share and talk about. Love and relationships are more than just good sex. We are all adults here right? Well maybe not me....but then I'm Blond....
All I know is that I did marry my best friend and I thank God I met him right here on CC....nice place to meet special people. Pay attention Lynx....Blond never gives up hope for you....lol Get out from underneath your rug and look around a bit you might see something you like....lol