Shun the unrepentant sinner?
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Well, I remember a story about my parents' friend who is a pastor (and a good one too, met him on several occasions and have a lot of respect for him). He had just been moved to a new church and there was a lady who was a regular attender and shacked up with her boyfriend. And the story goes that he did speak to her about it, only to find out that no one had ever told her that that was something she shouldn't be doing as a Christian.
So before jumping to the conclusion of, I must shun you because there is sin in your life and you don't seem to have a problem with it, find out how much this person actually knows the word of God (not a direct frontal assault, but just talking about the Bible and what it says and how it has impacted your life) and also find out the trajectory of their faith. It may be possible that God is working this person through a lot of other stuff and this sin isn't on God's priority list to deal with immediately or you may find out that this person thinks being a Christian basically means being a nice and decent person.
I will wholeheartedly agree that as the church and people of God we should be up in each other's business and confronting sin (at least once we have established that loving each other relationship and are truly part of each other's lives). But the point of pointing out sin, is to help people find a way to live in God's freedom and let God restore their lives, not to keep all those sinners away from God's people so we don't get tempted or offended. Oh and in dealing with situations like these, we need to remember that these are real relationships with many good points that have fallen into an area of sin, not sinful relationships that must be abandoned because there's nothing good in them. If the first impression a person has of becoming a Christian is that God doesn't approve of all the people you are closest to and wants you to abandon them because they aren't good enough, why would anybody stick with Christianity for long?
So before jumping to the conclusion of, I must shun you because there is sin in your life and you don't seem to have a problem with it, find out how much this person actually knows the word of God (not a direct frontal assault, but just talking about the Bible and what it says and how it has impacted your life) and also find out the trajectory of their faith. It may be possible that God is working this person through a lot of other stuff and this sin isn't on God's priority list to deal with immediately or you may find out that this person thinks being a Christian basically means being a nice and decent person.
I will wholeheartedly agree that as the church and people of God we should be up in each other's business and confronting sin (at least once we have established that loving each other relationship and are truly part of each other's lives). But the point of pointing out sin, is to help people find a way to live in God's freedom and let God restore their lives, not to keep all those sinners away from God's people so we don't get tempted or offended. Oh and in dealing with situations like these, we need to remember that these are real relationships with many good points that have fallen into an area of sin, not sinful relationships that must be abandoned because there's nothing good in them. If the first impression a person has of becoming a Christian is that God doesn't approve of all the people you are closest to and wants you to abandon them because they aren't good enough, why would anybody stick with Christianity for long?
K
K
Do you biblical truth or man made doctrine lies when it comes to His word ?
I have done an in depth study on this in looking for that passage or scripture that says it is a sin to live together before marriage. In that study there is no such scripture in the bible, and the only reason that man interjected this into the word is because of the ease that temptation can be put in front of a person to cause them to stumble.
Any topic that is commonly thrown around the Christian community I have researched asking God through His Holy Spirit to show me the truth in His word.
Just like how many times have we heard, "Spare the rod spoil the child?"
I have heard that tons of times by Christians but when researching it I was shown the bible says no such thing, it actually says the opposite. Proverbs 13:24, 23:13
K
That bold part you put in there I never said in my post, so now you are going to add to what I said ???
Here is what I said
Do you biblical truth or man made doctrine lies when it comes to His word ?
I have done an in depth study on this in looking for that passage or scripture that says it is a sin to live together before marriage. In that study there is no such scripture in the bible, and the only reason that man interjected this into the word is because of the ease that temptation can be put in front of a person to cause them to stumble.
Any topic that is commonly thrown around the Christian community I have researched asking God through His Holy Spirit to show me the truth in His word.
Just like how many times have we heard, "Spare the rod spoil the child?"
I have heard that tons of times by Christians but when researching it I was shown the bible says no such thing, it actually says the opposite. Proverbs 13:24, 23:13
Here is your repost adding in the bold
Originally Posted by KennethC
Do you biblical truth or man made doctrine lies when it comes to His word ?
I have done an in depth study on this in looking for that passage or scripture that says it is a sin to live together before marriage. In that study there is no such scripture in the bible, and the only reason that man interjected this into the word is because of the ease that temptation can be put in front of a person to cause them to stumble.
Any topic that is commonly thrown around the Christian community I have researched asking God through His Holy Spirit to show me the truth in His word.
Just like how many times have we heard, "Spare the rod spoil the child?"
"Spare the rod, hate the child" is the opposite?"
I have heard that tons of times by Christians but when researching it I was shown the bible says no such thing, it actually says the opposite. Proverbs 13:24, 23:13
The bible does not say spare the rod hate the child as your bold says, as what it actually says if you spare the rod you hate your child. Because those who love their kids will chastise/punish them for correction.
Here is what I said
Do you biblical truth or man made doctrine lies when it comes to His word ?
I have done an in depth study on this in looking for that passage or scripture that says it is a sin to live together before marriage. In that study there is no such scripture in the bible, and the only reason that man interjected this into the word is because of the ease that temptation can be put in front of a person to cause them to stumble.
Any topic that is commonly thrown around the Christian community I have researched asking God through His Holy Spirit to show me the truth in His word.
Just like how many times have we heard, "Spare the rod spoil the child?"
I have heard that tons of times by Christians but when researching it I was shown the bible says no such thing, it actually says the opposite. Proverbs 13:24, 23:13
Here is your repost adding in the bold
Do you biblical truth or man made doctrine lies when it comes to His word ?
I have done an in depth study on this in looking for that passage or scripture that says it is a sin to live together before marriage. In that study there is no such scripture in the bible, and the only reason that man interjected this into the word is because of the ease that temptation can be put in front of a person to cause them to stumble.
Any topic that is commonly thrown around the Christian community I have researched asking God through His Holy Spirit to show me the truth in His word.
Just like how many times have we heard, "Spare the rod spoil the child?"
"Spare the rod, hate the child" is the opposite?"
I have heard that tons of times by Christians but when researching it I was shown the bible says no such thing, it actually says the opposite. Proverbs 13:24, 23:13
The bible does not say spare the rod hate the child as your bold says, as what it actually says if you spare the rod you hate your child. Because those who love their kids will chastise/punish them for correction.
K
Spare the rod spoil the child
Says to not punish your kids when the get unruly and disrespectful, but to spoil and give them what they want instead.
If you spare the rod you hate your child
Is the counter to this false teaching as it says love will have a parent punish their child to correct them, which is the same the Lord will do to us when we start walking improperly by the faith. He will chastise us by the Holy Spirit directly or through the Spirit in another person showing the truth in His word.
The reason why sparing the rod is mentioned has the same as hating your child, is because you are allowing them to be disobedient and contentious. The bible is completely against that type of attitude and stresses obedience to the word.
Says to not punish your kids when the get unruly and disrespectful, but to spoil and give them what they want instead.
If you spare the rod you hate your child
Is the counter to this false teaching as it says love will have a parent punish their child to correct them, which is the same the Lord will do to us when we start walking improperly by the faith. He will chastise us by the Holy Spirit directly or through the Spirit in another person showing the truth in His word.
The reason why sparing the rod is mentioned has the same as hating your child, is because you are allowing them to be disobedient and contentious. The bible is completely against that type of attitude and stresses obedience to the word.
