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cinder

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2 people liked my post within 10 minutes of my posting it. I feel like I'm being cyber stalked a bit.

In other news found out that my friend's husband has written a Christian sic-fi book that will be released next weekend. It even looks like something I would enjoy reading so I'll have to give it a chance. If anyone is interested it's called Edge of Oblivion. (Not that there is anyone here who is both Christian and a sci-fi fan :p ).
 

Lynx

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And a good time was had by all. We have half a mountain of leftovers though. If anybody wants some tater salad, or some cornbread, or some really good turkey fresh-off-the-bird, come on by.

And Dan, my australian shepherd, has had a very good day. Right now he is curled up under the minivan and has no further interest in scraps, even skin and fat from the turkey.
 
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MollyConnor

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After the service my angelic kids were slamming each other in the bike which is getting a bit small for them, so I got sick of it and said that we were now not going to the Mc Donald's anymore. You can eat chicken noodles, I'm sick of it. Turned my bike and drove back.
While we were eating the oldest says: Mom how can this be? You were angry and said we were not going to the Mc Donald's and here we are, eating at the Mc Donald's.
Oh just never take anything your mom says serious.
Hehe whenever my brother and I would misbehave, Mom would do the same thing to us. It was usually Dairy Queen or some toy that we wanted. If we fought, there was no DQ for that weekend! DQ was our favorite fast food place at the time.
But she still took us. Don't worry, Coby. One day when they are older they'll realize you took them despite misbehaving because you love them.
 
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I know the history of Star Wars, I know they were super-expensive for their time. I know no-one but Lucas believed in his movie. But that doesn't mean it's for older audiences. It was meant to be Lucas' take on Buck Rogers. Also, I don't know about the PG rating in America, but in Australia it just meant Parental Guidance was recommended (for children).
Well Tintin, I will admit that when I watched the original star wars on dvd about 10 years ago with my friend who is a huge star wars fan, I was surprised at how cheesy it all seemed compared to how I remembered it. Same thing happened when I watched Top Gun a few years ago.

So I guess I can understand how someone watching it these days can think it was made for kids or teens... (but back then they didn't seem cheesy at all.. but neither did big hair and mullets 0_0)

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You guys know what's worse than the BDF forum?? Reading comments on news articles...

 

CatHerder

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SPOILER ALERT!!!

Do not read if you have not yet seen Star Wars: The Force Awakens



What? No. The original trilogy was of higher caliber. The characters were more developed and the writing was better, etc... That's why it became so succesful and so revered by fans and critics.

These sequels/prequels they've been coming out with are shallow compared to the originals. The characters are basically just fighting and saying one liners.

In the originals, Obi-Wan takes Luke aside in the millenium falcon and carefully teaches him how to use the force. Also, there is good chemistry between Leia and Solo. They are like a bickering married couple, but in a believable, adorable way. You don't get any of that kind of stuff in the new movies. They're mostly special effects and battle scenes..

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I have to disagree with the comment on character development. In this latest movie, Rey does not have an Obi-Wan who can pull her aside to train her in the ways of the force. This looks like this will be changing at the end. And no, they don't have the bickering/adorable equivalent to Hans/Leia in the latest movie, but they do have what is looking like a possible romance building between Rey and Finn...at the least it looks like a solid friendship. As for Finn - he overcame his Storm Trooper "programming," then after escaping, abandoned the Resistance, then overcame his fear to rejoin them when he witnessed Rey's capture.

Then we have Kylo Ren, who is revealed early on to be the estranged son of Hans and Leia. He has chosen the dark side of the force, but is struggling as he is being pulled by the light. He throws temper tantrums when he hears reports of battles that did not go the way he desired or when someone escapes. He also has conversations with Grandaddy Vader's helmet. I'm not going to spoil what he does at the end (though I'm sure everyone reading already knows), but I would argue that he is further developed as a villain than ol' D.V. was at the very first movie. Yes, they developed Vader quite a bit further, but that was in the second and third movies (of the original trilogy - Ep. IV, V, & VI).

So I think they just went with different directions in developing characters than they did with the first movie. I'm glad of this, because other parts of the movie were far from original. I did not like the plot of BB-8 having the secret data that the bad guys need...that is the very same plot of Episode IV. There should have been a better way of bringing the feel of the original ground-breaking movie that Star Wars: A New Hope was without retelling the plot.


I don't know why you would think they're made for teens or children. Those movies were done by George Lucas, he is Steven Speilberg's idol because of the work he did with Star Wars and he's the same guy who did American Graffitti and the Indiana Jones movies. The budgets alone on the original star wars movies were astronomical for their time. You don't spend money like that on a movie for teens. These were full-fledged sci-fi adventure movies. If I recall they were rated PG which means you have to have a parent or gaurdian with you unless you were 18 or older.
You are thinking of rated R, or "restricted" movies, which requires one to be 17 or older unless accompanied by a parent. PG simply means "parental guidance," to indicate that there may be some material that younger audiences may be upset with...such as the fox actually getting the rabbit instead of it getting away, or some-such. You bring up Spielberg, which is interesting, because his Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, received a PG rating. The violence and subject material in this movie is far more intense than most PG movies, yet it did not meet the criteria at the time to merit an R rating. Thus they created the now-familiar PG-13 rating, which strongly suggests to parents that they think twice before letting their children watch a movie with that rating.

I know the history of Star Wars, I know they were super-expensive for their time. I know no-one but Lucas believed in his movie. But that doesn't mean it's for older audiences. It was meant to be Lucas' take on Buck Rogers. Also, I don't know about the PG rating in America, but in Australia it just meant Parental Guidance was recommended (for children).
That's how it works here as well:
G - general audiences
PG - parental guidance - still pretty mild, may contain a swear word, but no F-bombs, still any age can see
PG-13 - probably more violent than PG and/or may contain saucier language, may contain some brief nudity
R - no one under 17 admitted without being accompanied by an adult. This may or may not be enforced by the movie theater. Usually will contain more profanity, more nudity (possibly frontal), violence more graphic than PG-13.
NC-17 - No one under 17 admitted, period. Think of it as one step away from porn, or porn trying to be "artsy."
X - porn

And to confuse matters more, this varies. Drug jokes that would have been okay in a PG movie in the 70's would now have the movie receive an R rating based on today's cultural climate. Conversely, nudity that would merit an R rating in the 70s may receive a PG-13 rating today.
 
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MissCris

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All of the sudden I'm allergic to the sun. Breaking out in hives and everything.

Boo.
 
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SPOILER ALERT!!!

Do not read if you have not yet seen Star Wars: The Force Awakens



I have to disagree with the comment on character development. In this latest movie, Rey does not have an Obi-Wan who can pull her aside to train her in the ways of the force. This looks like this will be changing at the end. And no, they don't have the bickering/adorable equivalent to Hans/Leia in the latest movie, but they do have what is looking like a possible romance building between Rey and Finn...at the least it looks like a solid friendship. As for Finn - he overcame his Storm Trooper "programming," then after escaping, abandoned the Resistance, then overcame his fear to rejoin them when he witnessed Rey's capture.

Then we have Kylo Ren, who is revealed early on to be the estranged son of Hans and Leia. He has chosen the dark side of the force, but is struggling as he is being pulled by the light. He throws temper tantrums when he hears reports of battles that did not go the way he desired or when someone escapes. He also has conversations with Grandaddy Vader's helmet. I'm not going to spoil what he does at the end (though I'm sure everyone reading already knows), but I would argue that he is further developed as a villain than ol' D.V. was at the very first movie. Yes, they developed Vader quite a bit further, but that was in the second and third movies (of the original trilogy - Ep. IV, V, & VI).

So I think they just went with different directions in developing characters than they did with the first movie. I'm glad of this, because other parts of the movie were far from original. I did not like the plot of BB-8 having the secret data that the bad guys need...that is the very same plot of Episode IV. There should have been a better way of bringing the feel of the original ground-breaking movie that Star Wars: A New Hope was without retelling the plot.


You are thinking of rated R, or "restricted" movies, which requires one to be 17 or older unless accompanied by a parent. PG simply means "parental guidance," to indicate that there may be some material that younger audiences may be upset with...such as the fox actually getting the rabbit instead of it getting away, or some-such. You bring up Spielberg, which is interesting, because his Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, received a PG rating. The violence and subject material in this movie is far more intense than most PG movies, yet it did not meet the criteria at the time to merit an R rating. Thus they created the now-familiar PG-13 rating, which strongly suggests to parents that they think twice before letting their children watch a movie with that rating.



That's how it works here as well:
G - general audiences
PG - parental guidance - still pretty mild, may contain a swear word, but no F-bombs, still any age can see
PG-13 - probably more violent than PG and/or may contain saucier language, may contain some brief nudity
R - no one under 17 admitted without being accompanied by an adult. This may or may not be enforced by the movie theater. Usually will contain more profanity, more nudity (possibly frontal), violence more graphic than PG-13.
NC-17 - No one under 17 admitted, period. Think of it as one step away from porn, or porn trying to be "artsy."
X - porn

And to confuse matters more, this varies. Drug jokes that would have been okay in a PG movie in the 70's would now have the movie receive an R rating based on today's cultural climate. Conversely, nudity that would merit an R rating in the 70s may receive a PG-13 rating today.
Yea, but I judge a movie on its ability to make me go "awwwwww" or make my jaw drop or make me feel like "wow I wish I could be like this character!" or "That character is soooooo cool!". The older star wars movies did all that for me. The newer ones made me feel like "Well, it wasn't that bad."
 
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Because Jedi training techniques are passed down from master to padawan... xD

 

Born_Again

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Because Jedi training techniques are passed down from master to padawan... xD

He did not age gracefully... Just sayn... And Im pretty sure Carrie Fisher had to be taped together to be in this last one. LOL
 
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MissCris

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This may seem random, but: are you on antibiotics (or other medicines)?
No...I take vitamins every day...ones I didn't take say, last fall (the last time I spent any significant time in the sun). I wonder if one of them is causing this :/
 

melita916

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coming back to work after a 3-day weekend.

the struggle is real.
 

AsifinPassing

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Yea, but I judge a movie on its ability to make me go "awwwwww" or make my jaw drop or make me feel like "wow I wish I could be like this character!" or "That character is soooooo cool!". The older star wars movies did all that for me. The newer ones made me feel like "Well, it wasn't that bad."

I posted a long time ago after seeing it that while the new star wars movie wasn't bad, it was over-hyped, weak (as far as plot, several logic holes, some acting, and several other key points), and left a lot to be desired.

I've wasted years of my life on literally thousands or even 10s of thousands of movies... I just can't be a movie buff anymore. They fill my head with a lot of garbage, and for every relatively 'good' one, there a 100 bad ones...

I know this sounds pessimistic, but seriously, I've long tried to be as objective (while also being Christian) as possible. It seems like the majority of movies have some sort of sinful message or broken logic behind them these days, and the blasphemy is getting rediculous. I was super disappointed in the new Batman v Superman for all these same reasons. Looks like the new Xmen may even be worse in that regard...and if DC keeps getting darker...which Civil War still being contingent... I may even have to give up on superhero movies now... =\
 

AsifinPassing

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Also this: [video=youtube;JbpgM-JTang]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbpgM-JTang[/video]