The Godly Man

[cinder]

Solomon wrote and/or collected Proverbs and passed that wisdom along to his son(s). Then, at the end of Proverbs, he made sure his son(s) understood the description and value of a virtuous wife. [

Not picking on you, but because this is a common mistake that irks me:

Proverbs 31 is not attributed to Solomon; instead Proverbs 31:1 attributes this chapter to King Lemuel (or his mom since it is things his mother taught him).

Ok my inner stickler for Biblical accuracy has been satisfied. Carry on everyone.

 

[proverbs35]

Not picking on you, but because this is a common mistake that irks me:

Proverbs 31 is not attributed to Solomon; instead Proverbs 31:1 attributes this chapter to King Lemuel (or his mom since it is things his mother taught him).

Ok my inner stickler for Biblical accuracy has been satisfied. Carry on everyone.

Please read my original comment more carefully. I never said that Solomon wrote Pr 31. I clearly stated that "Solomon wrote and/or collected Proverbs and passed that wisdom along to his son(s)." Therefore, I never stated that Solomon wrote Pr 31.

As for King Lemuel, his identity has been much discussed, and some commentators believe that he was indeed Solomon.
They believe that Lemuel was possibly "a fond pretty name his mother Bathsheba gave him when young, and he thought fit to write it just as his mother spoke it; as mothers often do give such broken names to their children in fond affection to them: or it was another name of his." (quote from Gill's Exposition of the Bible).

Other don't think that Solomon was Lemuel. He has also been identified (by the Rabbinical commentators) with Hezekiah. It is possible that the name is a fanciful title to represent any virtuous king, invented for the purpose of conveying certain maxims. (Hastings Dictionary of the Bible). Lemuel - Hastings' Dictionary of the Bible - Dictionaries - StudyLight.org

Anyway, we can't know for sure who King Lemuel was. That's why I intentionally stated that Solomon wrote and/or collected Proverbs. Proverbs 31 being one that he possibly collected.

I understand about being a stickler. I'm kinda one too.

 

[Agricola]

I am absolutely sick to death of hearing people bleat on about how they want a (insert favourite Verses) type of person for a spouse, then rejecting everyone because they do not measure up to those kinds of people or show a particular behaviour that is not "holy enough".

It is identical thinking by people who do not want to commit to Jesus because they do not think they are good enough. JEsus wants people for relationship, he does not reject anyone because of what they are like. Neither should we in picking a spouce.

Heres how it should work, boy meets girl, boy and girl find out that each are beleivers , they enjoy being with each other, fall in love, get married.

Now, all this baggage of carrying around "the ideal spouce based on the bible", lets say wanting say a proberbs 31 kind of woman, would have proberbly resulted in the relationship failing before it started.

The truth is, if two people are deeply in love with each other and put God in middle of relationship, then they eventually fall into being everything the Bible says about a good wife and husband.

It is not rocket science, its rather simple, yet going by this thread it is so complicated. No wonder why there are so many women bleating on about how they can not find a perfect husband and how there are no decent Christian men around.

 

[tourist]

For many women a Godly man is Jesus and if any man falls short of Jesus, they are not interested. I have been frustrated by the ridiculous attitudes of available women looking for a husband. Many have this image and mega long list of traits and attributes they think their husband should have.

One amazing woman who I would not have hesitated in marrying, I knew that God had pushed her in my direction, we started a good relationship, but after a month citing she could not marry someone who was divorced. Another ignored me when I told her I was available after she went on about how there seemed to be no available Christian men and she had no idea where to find one. I think she thought that as I had my daughter with me at church I was married. I could go on.

Trouble is, the person women create in their head is mythical and doesn't exist, well they do exist, it is Jesus. they might as well go unicorn hunting. Maybe this is why I ended up with an atheist in my first marriage she just loved being with me and loved me for who I was.

Maybe this is why I had 3 other women flirting with me over past 5 years, I am yearning for a wife, I want to love someone unconditionally again, I achieved it with my ex wife, but it was lost on her, so I was tempted to say yes, but I promised God I would only marry a Christian this time around.

So, if a woman says she is looking for a Godly man etc tell her that she will have more success hunting unicorns.

Keep looking my friend. I was divorced once too. I believe that a spiritual man will only be happy with a spiritual woman if they are searching for that very special someone to share their life with. Only God provides this type of matchmaker service. Be more sensitive to the thought process of your prospective mate(s). You cannot understand how she feels if you do not know where she has been.

Actually, unicorns a kind of romantic...

 

[Hungry]

There is no perfect man or woman. There are just better actors and actresses. The problem is that when people are "on the market" they act completely different than when they tie the knot. Joyce Myers put it like this, "A man will enter the marriage thinking the woman will never change and the woman will think that the man will change. And there are both wrong." Can those here who, have been, or are married, at least give the others a heads up. No body knows what their spouse is going to be like ten years down the road, even five. There is no happily ever after. There is no perfect spouse. Your success in a marriage will completely depend on each members ability to commit to it. It's less about finding the perfect person and more about your tolerance to imperfection. We all suck really and need forgiveness for our tempers, thoughtlessness and selfishness. That is why we need to give it freely even when not asked for. For those who are seeking a spouse look at their parents because that is a better example at what you are going to get than the person standing before you.

 

[tourist]

I am absolutely sick to death of hearing people bleat on about how they want a (insert favourite Verses) type of person for a spouse, then rejecting everyone because they do not measure up to those kinds of people or show a particular behaviour that is not "holy enough".

It is identical thinking by people who do not want to commit to Jesus because they do not think they are good enough. JEsus wants people for relationship, he does not reject anyone because of what they are like. Neither should we in picking a spouce.

Heres how it should work, boy meets girl, boy and girl find out that each are beleivers , they enjoy being with each other, fall in love, get married.

Now, all this baggage of carrying around "the ideal spouce based on the bible", lets say wanting say a proberbs 31 kind of woman, would have proberbly resulted in the relationship failing before it started.

The truth is, if two people are deeply in love with each other and put God in middle of relationship, then they eventually fall into being everything the Bible says about a good wife and husband.

It is not rocket science, its rather simple, yet going by this thread it is so complicated. No wonder why there are so many women bleating on about how they can not find a perfect husband and how there are no decent Christian men around.

I like your style big guy! I agree with everything you have said. It is not all that complicated really. Every one accumulates baggage. By the grace of God and through trial and error I have learned to travel light on my life's journey. Now, it is time to shake the dice and throw it on the table...

 

[cinder]

Please read my original comment more carefully. I never said that Solomon wrote Pr 31. I clearly stated that "Solomon wrote and/or collected Proverbs and passed that wisdom along to his son(s)." Therefore, I never stated that Solomon wrote Pr 31.

As for King Lemuel, his identity has been much discussed, and some commentators believe that he was indeed Solomon.
They believe that Lemuel was possibly "a fond pretty name his mother Bathsheba gave him when young, and he thought fit to write it just as his mother spoke it; as mothers often do give such broken names to their children in fond affection to them: or it was another name of his." (quote from Gill's Exposition of the Bible).

Other don't think that Solomon was Lemuel. He has also been identified (by the Rabbinical commentators) with Hezekiah. It is possible that the name is a fanciful title to represent any virtuous king, invented for the purpose of conveying certain maxims. (Hastings Dictionary of the Bible). Lemuel - Hastings' Dictionary of the Bible - Dictionaries - StudyLight.org

Anyway, we can't know for sure who King Lemuel was. That's why I intentionally stated that Solomon wrote and/or collected Proverbs. Proverbs 31 being one that he possibly collected.

I understand about being a stickler. I'm kinda one too.

I think I just got schooled. (darn it there is no embarrassed face)

 

[Tintin]

Godly men wear capes. All the time.

I better make a cape.

 

[StoneThrower]

I have a question. What does a godly man look like? ?

A Godly man has a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, he not only reads his Bible and prays daily but he serves the Lord.
He has a servants heart and esteems others higher than himself.
He reflects Jesus Christ in the way he relates to others.
His word is his honor and he can be depended on.
At his job he works as if working for the Lord.
He loves Christ first, than a wife, then childern.
His family comes first and then minstry.
He leads his wife and childern in disciplship daily.
He reacts to his wife and childern in a gospel centered way. Understanding that he is the cheif of sinners and his sin put Christ on the cross which allows him to have grace towards others when the sin.
He gently corrects his wife and childern when need not for behavior modification or to get his way but use it to teach them about Christ.
He fails because hes human, and he repents of his sin not only to God but to those that he has sinned against.
He loves his wife as Christ Loves the church, with agape love expecting nothing in return he loves because he can.

 

[StoneThrower]

A Godly man has a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, he not only reads his Bible and prays daily but he serves the Lord.
He has a servants heart and esteems others higher than himself.
He reflects Jesus Christ in the way he relates to others.
His word is his honor and he can be depended on.
At his job he works as if working for the Lord.
He loves Christ first, than a wife, then childern.
His family comes first and then minstry.
He leads his wife and childern in disciplship daily.
He reacts to his wife and childern in a gospel centered way. Understanding that he is the cheif of sinners and his sin put Christ on the cross which allows him to have grace towards others when the sin.
He gently corrects his wife and childern when need not for behavior modification or to get his way but use it to teach them about Christ.
He fails because hes human, and he repents of his sin not only to God but to those that he has sinned against.
He loves his wife as Christ Loves the church, with agape love expecting nothing in return he loves because he can.

I forgot one the way a Godly man interacts with women he treats them as sisters in Christ, He dosent look at porn EVER or eye up women as a sex object he bounces his eyes when necessary.