The Nice Guy
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Seriously....THIS is what it means to be like Jesus???
C.S. Lewis didn't marry until he was 56.
John the Baptist and Jesus NEVER married.
Anyone can get married. There's not much of a trick to that. Have you seen some of the horror of human beings who were married? Hitler was married...so was Stalin. The fact that a person gets married doesn't mean much. The fact that a person does not marry doesn't make them less valuable as a human being or less evolved spiritually.
Apparently, when you gave up "Mr. Nice Guy" you also abandoned a basic level of ethics when it comes to talking to creatures who are made in the image of God.
Hope that works out for you spiritually.
C.S. Lewis didn't marry until he was 56.
John the Baptist and Jesus NEVER married.
Anyone can get married. There's not much of a trick to that. Have you seen some of the horror of human beings who were married? Hitler was married...so was Stalin. The fact that a person gets married doesn't mean much. The fact that a person does not marry doesn't make them less valuable as a human being or less evolved spiritually.
Apparently, when you gave up "Mr. Nice Guy" you also abandoned a basic level of ethics when it comes to talking to creatures who are made in the image of God.
Hope that works out for you spiritually.
I'm always surprised Christians even talk about the "nice guy"...
The idea of "nice guy" is interpreted by the world. The nice guy is a guy who is effeminate, always kind, even to those who are not kind to him and a guy wouldn't stand up for what's right. Biblically, this idea of the nice guy is not the ideal. Godly men are not effeminate. Biblically, men are to lead in the church and in the home. Men are shown as willing to stand up for what is right which is shown by the example in the book of Daniel where young men never gave up God and instead walked into fire for not giving up their faith. Daniel 3:25 He said, "Look! I see four men walking around in the fire, unbound and unharmed, and the fourth looks like a son of the gods." Or how about David when he stood up to Goliath? How about Joshua who said, Joshua 24:15" [SUP]15 [/SUP]And if it seems evil to you to serve the Lord, choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you dwell. But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.”
The bible shows righteous men willing to stand up for what's right. Scripture gives example through Paul that we shouldn't ashamed of the gospel. That we should preserver. That we are to present ourselves as living sacrifices and to be willing to stand firmly on our morals and that may mean saying unpleasant things like God's judgment on sin. That may mean calling out what's right and wrong. Or even putting yourself in danger for the faith. This kind of behavior doesn't resemble the unwilling nice guy. This behavior resembles Godly men. So, nice guys which is defined by the world isn't what is ideal, but instead to look to be a Godly man is the ideal. Jesus was willing to be tortured and be killed on the cross. Let's be like Jesus instead.
The idea of "nice guy" is interpreted by the world. The nice guy is a guy who is effeminate, always kind, even to those who are not kind to him and a guy wouldn't stand up for what's right. Biblically, this idea of the nice guy is not the ideal. Godly men are not effeminate. Biblically, men are to lead in the church and in the home. Men are shown as willing to stand up for what is right which is shown by the example in the book of Daniel where young men never gave up God and instead walked into fire for not giving up their faith. Daniel 3:25 He said, "Look! I see four men walking around in the fire, unbound and unharmed, and the fourth looks like a son of the gods." Or how about David when he stood up to Goliath? How about Joshua who said, Joshua 24:15" [SUP]15 [/SUP]And if it seems evil to you to serve the Lord, choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you dwell. But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.”
The bible shows righteous men willing to stand up for what's right. Scripture gives example through Paul that we shouldn't ashamed of the gospel. That we should preserver. That we are to present ourselves as living sacrifices and to be willing to stand firmly on our morals and that may mean saying unpleasant things like God's judgment on sin. That may mean calling out what's right and wrong. Or even putting yourself in danger for the faith. This kind of behavior doesn't resemble the unwilling nice guy. This behavior resembles Godly men. So, nice guys which is defined by the world isn't what is ideal, but instead to look to be a Godly man is the ideal. Jesus was willing to be tortured and be killed on the cross. Let's be like Jesus instead.
This is a very good post, but in order to be like this, you cannot be a nice-guy. Jesus Christ was not a nice guy, he was a kind and gentle guy. But he was not a push-over or a people-pleaser. If anything, he had many people hear the truth, and want to kill him for it.
Can you tell me the nice-guys of today have the same conviction and courage of Jesus? This is why I think men should not aspire to be "nice-guys", but rather Godly Men. However, the problem with Godly men is they would be banned from christian churches for their truth speaking.
Can you tell me the nice-guys of today have the same conviction and courage of Jesus? This is why I think men should not aspire to be "nice-guys", but rather Godly Men. However, the problem with Godly men is they would be banned from christian churches for their truth speaking.
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Would be interested in seeing lists of some sort. I would find it odd for any mod on this site to be offended by scripture and discussion of how a man can be the best Christian possible, in any forum, interested in being a husband or not. Though, I think secular views are tolerated for contrast and comparison, and for edification of scripture. Single doesn't necessarily mean looking to get married. I think we forget that and focus on the negative side of being single. Being the best man we can seems like the foundation we want to build on, single or otherwise.
So someone that describes nice qualities of you is ultimately a bad thing? Cause being nice is considered bad? Isn't kind the same as nice? I go feed the homeless, is that considered kind but not nice? If it is nice, I guess that's something men should stop doing, cause women don't like that. Yay? Or nay? Kinda having a hard time differentiating kind vs nice.
I think a lot of us can reach a medium where too nice equals problems. Having said that, how do you make sure you don't cross that line of being a jerk. Because honestly, I don't like the person I'm turning into. And part of it is taking too much into what this book is saying. So how do you avoid being "the nice guy" without being the said jerk.
Im generally unhappy by this thread, too 
Its why we shouldnt look to the world on how to act, but to the word of God. "A gentle spirit is precious to God", my desire is not to impress girls or look macho and daring to younger males, but to be a cherished child of God.
If the world wants to call me a whimp or weak or whatever, then let them call me that At least I can be with Christ. "The meek shall inherit the earth".
Its why we shouldnt look to the world on how to act, but to the word of God. "A gentle spirit is precious to God", my desire is not to impress girls or look macho and daring to younger males, but to be a cherished child of God.
If the world wants to call me a whimp or weak or whatever, then let them call me that
At least I can be with Christ. "The meek shall inherit the earth".
Im generally unhappy by this thread, too
Its why we shouldnt look to the world on how to act, but to the word of God. "A gentle spirit is precious to God", my desire is not to impress girls or look macho and daring to younger males, but to be a cherished child of God.
If the world wants to call me a whimp or weak or whatever, then let them call me that At least I can be with Christ. "The meek shall inherit the earth".
Its why we shouldnt look to the world on how to act, but to the word of God. "A gentle spirit is precious to God", my desire is not to impress girls or look macho and daring to younger males, but to be a cherished child of God.
If the world wants to call me a whimp or weak or whatever, then let them call me that
At least I can be with Christ. "The meek shall inherit the earth".
I'll type slower so you can keep up. I don't care what you think of me. I do care that you learn a thing or two about life, thus I responded to you. Big, big difference.
You stated: Nice guys are repulsive to women because they lack confidence . . . and they'll never get the woman they want, and that is simply one of the dumbest, short-sighted, incorrect statements I've ever read.
One day, with God's blessings, you and your wife will have children. You'll be on bended knee asking God to send your daughter(s) a nice guy.
Re-read what you wrote, ponder it, and learn; or don't learn; I don't care. Or maybe I do care; I forget.
And for the record, when someone's nice, they're a loser in your eyes, but when someone is straight forward and calling you out, they're self righteous in your eyes. So apparently you look down your nose at everyone. Since you have a problem with nice guys, and I'm only nice when I want to be, you should LOVE me.
You stated: Nice guys are repulsive to women because they lack confidence . . . and they'll never get the woman they want, and that is simply one of the dumbest, short-sighted, incorrect statements I've ever read.
One day, with God's blessings, you and your wife will have children. You'll be on bended knee asking God to send your daughter(s) a nice guy.
Re-read what you wrote, ponder it, and learn; or don't learn; I don't care. Or maybe I do care; I forget.
And for the record, when someone's nice, they're a loser in your eyes, but when someone is straight forward and calling you out, they're self righteous in your eyes. So apparently you look down your nose at everyone. Since you have a problem with nice guys, and I'm only nice when I want to be, you should LOVE me.
If you didn't care, you wouldn't of responded. And yeah, be a old 50 year old man sitting in his self-righteous chair and thinking to himself 50 years of age has earned you the right to talk down to others. No one cares that you don't care old man.
Ya know somethin', Shawn? Some day YOU are gonna be the 50 year old man sitting in his self-righteous chair.
And Utah isn't an old man, he's a finely aged man. 30 years old is alot more middle age than 50 is..lol.. 50 isn't old.. 100 is old. And at 30 years old, it seems that you're ALREADY sittin' in that self-righteous seat, judging from your reply to Utah..
If you didn't care, you wouldn't of responded. And yeah, be a old 50 year old man sitting in his self-righteous chair and thinking to himself 50 years of age has earned you the right to talk down to others. No one cares that you don't care old man.
Ya know somethin', Shawn? Some day YOU are gonna be the 50 year old man sitting in his self-righteous chair.
And Utah isn't an old man, he's a finely aged man. 30 years old is alot more middle age than 50 is..lol.. 50 isn't old.. 100 is old. And at 30 years old, it seems that you're ALREADY sittin' in that self-righteous seat, judging from your reply to Utah.. Thank you and God bless you for your kind words as always. And don't worry about the kid, he'll learn. I was even dumber at 30 than he is now and I learned; to God be the glory.