What is love?

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notmyown

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Love, apart from Jesus, has no meaning.

In this is love, that Jesus laid down His life for all of us, that we can be free to be who He has called us to be and not bound by the chains and limitations of this world. What the world can never comprehend is fully expressed on the Cross - that is love.

Love is love between a parent and a child, if Jesus is in between.
Love is love between a man and a wife, if Jesus is in between.
Love is love between friends, if Jesus is in between.

Otherwise, it is nothing but idolatry.

it's SO easy for us to slip into idolatry. :(

i made an idol of my children for far too long, and struggle with the same with my husband, God help me.

(hush, noname! lol)

anytime a good thing becomes an ultimate thing (i MUST have it), there we are. where's melita to tell us the struggle is real? ;)
 

Demi777

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#42
Now this IS love <3 With Jesus as the Third Party <3
With a lot of obstacles and praying we made it through three months seeing each other every day and working through it. Of course satan tries but who stands under the shadow of the allmighty is safe. Free will and God. No giving up :D
I thank the Lord daily with good reason
 
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Galatea

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#43
this man may not be going by Gods will

but his own understanding... in which case he could very well be wrong in making this choice


or hes lying
and its not for YOUR best but HIS best

i dont know much about this man
but if age is the reason ... or being from "different worlds"

i dont see how its scripture that decided that... unless he is in unbelief... which even scripture would say it is actually better to not get married or to let them go if they wish

does he have daughters who would be ashamed of him for dating someone your age?

or maybe he does not want to marry....

how much thought have you put in whats best for him?


but i agree with you

YOU will see things HE doesnt having a different perspective

and for something as serious as marriage

you absolutely have a voice in this

and if he loves you he should at least listen to it
I don’t know what is best for him, he has to decide for himself. I know what is best for me, and it is him. I am convinced I was made for him. I know it. Whether or not I am what is best for him is another thing. It is something he must decide.
 

melita916

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#44
The struggle is real! Lol

i wanna post about this topic but I’m on my phone.

The struggle!
 

tourist

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#45
I don’t know what is best for him, he has to decide for himself. I know what is best for me, and it is him. I am convinced I was made for him. I know it. Whether or not I am what is best for him is another thing. It is something he must decide.
Unrequited love can be a very hard thing to accept leading to precious years being wasted from having your eyes closed and possibly missing a true opportunity for a lasting true love. Hopefully, he will decide soon one way or another whether he feels the same towards you.
 
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Galatea

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#46
it's SO easy for us to slip into idolatry. :(

i made an idol of my children for far too long, and struggle with the same with my husband, God help me.

(hush, noname! lol)

anytime a good thing becomes an ultimate thing (i MUST have it), there we are. where's melita to tell us the struggle is real? ;)
I think it is very sad if you do not love your husband so much that you MUST have him.

I do not think it is idolatry, at all.
 
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Galatea

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#47
Unrequited love can be a very hard thing to accept leading to precious years being wasted from having your eyes closed and possibly missing a true opportunity for a lasting true love. Hopefully, he will decide soon one way or another whether he feels the same towards you.
It doesn’t matter. He probably does not want me at this point, I am almost sure. I have loved him for three years, and it has not been wasted time. Not for me, perhaps for him. I do not know. I would rather love him and hope it will be requited one day than find another.
 

melita916

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#48
We have to be careful to not put our significant other on the same level as Jesus. I love my husband and want to spend each day with him. But I can live without him (I don’t want to tho lol).

but I MUST have Jesus. Without Him, there is no life.
 

tourist

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#49
It doesn’t matter. He probably does not want me at this point, I am almost sure. I have loved him for three years, and it has not been wasted time. Not for me, perhaps for him. I do not know. I would rather love him and hope it will be requited one day than find another.
I wish you well and God's blessings in your pursuit of a true enduring love.
 

I_am_Canadian

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#50
It's good to hear he has realized what is important in life. You should take him to council with your pastor than you guys can work on better communication and build a stronger healthier relationship.

I believe when you love someone, you want the highest good for them even if it means it's not you. Love is never a feeling or emotion because those change with time. I never really talked about this, but my bf is brutally honest with me and has hurt me with his words because he doesn't communicate them very well. We took a break a few months ago for a month and a half because he said some harsh things, but they were all true. He just had a rotten way to say them lol and I wasn't in the right place emotionally to handle it. Anyways, I sought out some counseling and was told to be patient with him and continue to love and support him, but continue praying for him. Let me tell you it was the hardest thing I have ever done, but I knew my happiness didnt rely on him when in fact I thought it did. One day, I felt the need to send him a quick text and realized we still love each other. Long story short he told me his best friend had a heart attack and it brought everything into perspective. Turns out he was getting burned out with his job and how it was affecting everything in his life and so he decided to quit because his job means nothing to him compared to the people he has all around him.

1 Corinthians 13:4-7
4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

So, what is love to you?
 
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joefizz

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#51
Who gets to decide what is in the best interest of the other? I can not see how letting anyone go is love.
Love never fails, love endures, love perseveres.

It might be a blessed relief to let a draining vampire go- but that is not love if the vampire needs you.

I don’t let go of people I love. What is best for me is never being let go.
God for without him love would be impossible.
 
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joefizz

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#52
I’m referring to romantic love, not parental.

Yes, parents must let children grow up, but romantic love does not let go- unless it is dead. He could not love me and let me go. This is true.
Not exactly,a person can indeed love someone romantically but let them go for a reason you may still love the person romantically afterward but sometimes it's just what is best for example,one of my cousins and deacons of my family church loved a woman so much that he blinded himself to that she was abusive physically and mentally to him and others,that eventually though it pained him he left her and still cared for her romantically yet knew he could not be with her anymore,love is not always "not letting go" love is also about knowing when leaving your the one you love romantically is best,now granted there can be an undieing love for those who find that special someone that they can be with and walk together with alongside God,but it isn't always your first love in life as far as romantically that is your forever love,and love can be joyful and hurtful,but alongside God we can find whom may be our romantic love for life.
 
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Galatea

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#53
Not exactly,a person can indeed love someone romantically but let them go for a reason you may still love the person romantically afterward but sometimes it's just what is best for example,one of my cousins and deacons of my family church loved a woman so much that he blinded himself to that she was abusive physically and mentally to him and others,that eventually though it pained him he left her and still cared for her romantically yet knew he could not be with her anymore,love is not always "not letting go" love is also about knowing when leaving your the one you love romantically is best,now granted there can be an undieing love for those who find that special someone that they can be with and walk together with alongside God,but it isn't always your first love in life as far as romantically that is your forever love,and love can be joyful and hurtful,but alongside God we can find whom may be our romantic love for life.
I have not been abusive to him, but I have been mean on several occasions.
 
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#54
Love, apart from Jesus, has no meaning.

In this is love, that Jesus laid down His life for all of us, that we can be free to be who He has called us to be and not bound by the chains and limitations of this world. What the world can never comprehend is fully expressed on the Cross - that is love.

Love is love between a parent and a child, if Jesus is in between.
Love is love between a man and a wife, if Jesus is in between.
Love is love between friends, if Jesus is in between.

Otherwise, it is nothing but idolatry.
Not sure this is true.
Love is love, and Jesus is the foundation.
For some love is not freely giving and receiving but co-dependency where the boundaries
between the parties are not clear.

For me Jesus shows us what love is and how it works, which is how we can love others
and not get taken over by them or manipulated.
 
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Who gets to decide what is in the best interest of the other? I can not see how letting anyone go is love.
Love never fails, love endures, love perseveres.

It might be a blessed relief to let a draining vampire go- but that is not love if the vampire needs you.

I don’t let go of people I love. What is best for me is never being let go.
Love does not insist on its own way.

You can love from a distance. The love chapter doesn't say "love clings" or "love is close".
 

Lynx

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#57
We have to be careful to not put our significant other on the same level as Jesus. I love my husband and want to spend each day with him. But I can live without him (I don’t want to tho lol).

but I MUST have Jesus. Without Him, there is no life.
Well said, and something I was thinking about just today.

He or she can be the love of your life, and rightly so, but if you start putting the person on a pedestal you are in for a big disappointment. With all the love in the world, if you start holding your spouse as better than anybody else you are going to be let down. There will come a time when your spouse just can not be there for you, a time when you get mad at your spouse or a time when you just cannot understand why your spouse has such a wrong opinion about an issue, and in your mind that person will fall HARD off that pedestal.
 
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#58
Not sure this is true.
Love is love, and Jesus is the foundation.
For some love is not freely giving and receiving but co-dependency where the boundaries
between the parties are not clear.

For me Jesus shows us what love is and how it works, which is how we can love others
and not get taken over by them or manipulated.
Peter, I don't think you're wrong. This just supports what I said. Without Jesus, it is not love.
 

JesusLives

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[h=1]Love isn't Love.........[/h] A bell is not a bell
until someone rings it,
a song is not a song
until someone sings it.

Love wasn't put
in the heart to stay,
for love isn't love
until you give it away.