Why do you as a christian not see that none of you are Adam and Eve?

[seoulsearch]

I totally admire Grace for being so gracious and for putting forth so much effort into trying to understand someone's perspective, but I have to admit that when I first read this:

Seeker, may I ask if English is your native language? I am wondering because much of what you write (this sentence for example) is not intelligible.

my temporary dyslexia set in and my brain interpreted it as, "much of what you write is not intelligent."

D'OH!!! Totally my bad.

I think. (Not.)

 

[MidniteWelder]

I totally admire Grace for being so gracious and for putting forth so much effort into trying to understand someone's perspective,

I think that's very admirable of her too

Although I also think the dude is set in his agenda and isn't going to listen to our perspective much.
So I figured I'd try and write a childrens story with the non-sensical inspirations being projected on his behalf.
Like Dr Suess did.
Ya know doing the best with what you're handed
like when ur given lemons and make orange juice and leave people wondering how ya did it.

(wondering if he's Muslim masquerading as Canadian)

 

[Crazyteen]

Thank you INTJer. I had not heard of such groups, but it does seem to fit all the (apparently disparate) parts of what the original poster was saying.

Crazyteen I have to disagree with one opinion of yours: This is still a wonderful world God made. It was a bit damaged and marred by sin - if there were no sin there would be no thorns, stingers, carnivores, etc - but it's still a thing of beauty. Gonna have to disagree with the bit about the "dirt speck of dust piece of crap" part, especially when the daffodils start coming out. ^.^

Yeah, Things are very very nice!
But there alot nicer if you set your expectations low, lol.
I tend to be proud of stuff when its nice, which then causes temptations.so I'ts my way of staying humble sorry for the confusion.

 

[Grace-Like-Rain]

I totally admire Grace for being so gracious and for putting forth so much effort into trying to understand someone's perspective, but I have to admit that when I first read this:



my temporary dyslexia set in and my brain interpreted it as, "much of what you write is not intelligent."

D'OH!!! Totally my bad.

I think. (Not.)

Haha, I started out with a different word but this one was just more accurate. Um... I read the sentence to myself several times, and then out loud three times, and could not manage to shape it in any way that made a lick of sense. Don't think too highly of my efforts though, because I have entirely skipped over about 90% of this thread.

 

[Crazyteen]

First of all sex is a union between husband and wife, it brings you closer to one another.
Your assessment is incorrect and based upon your own beliefs, fears and insecurities.
Have you been in love? Have you given yourself to God? Have you felt LOVE?

You think that just because we are in heaven that this LOVE stops? Just because we do not have sex?
We will be clean from sin, from all worries of the world, and who knows what God has install for us...do you know?
Maybe...just maybe....sex will be different in heaven, something greater and DEEPER.
Remember we are in heaven for all eternity.
He is a great God, that has already given us great things in this life time.

AHAHHAA <<< sorry but I had to laugh.......this is hilarious.

This life is NOTHING compared to what it is going to be like....

What ever it is............. I will lay my life down for my God.
He gave me life.... isn't that something we should be forever thankful for?

tourist: trust me dude, my faith makes enemy's and no one likes me. I do not play with life like you do with your heaven and your pretty faith with no scriptures to back you up. I on the other hand have many scripture's and a FULL BOOK CALLED ECC to talk my faith and how death will come to all your love and how worldly you all are.

Yuup, you pretty much nailed it.
You got the scriptures, just like the pharisees in the bible. They had plenty of scriptures!

I on the other hand, know that I have something in My heart that no Bible-thumper will EVER talk me out of.
All I have to do is spend a night in the farrowing house watching hogs nurse there yungens or a puppy playing with a leaf, to see the masters touch in everything I see.
I have in my heart the forgiving love of the creator. Which causes me to be at peace with god 98 percent of the time. I'd be lying if i said 100 percent.
But yah! sure!! stay hidden away in a bunker to get away from this world. But let me ask you one question. Is that what Jesus did? Nooooope Jesus was a carpenter.
Who then travelled the world telling everybody about god's love.
And for now my life looks like I'm going to do that exact thing.
(Wada coincidence lol)
Jesus DISPISED Pharisees (bible thumpers) who used the bible in the wrong way.
And Jesus was born to this world.
They don't call him the son of man for nothin.

 

[Tintin]

Where's that banning thread when you need it?

 

[hoss2576]

I sit in awe on how this thing got 66 replies, now 67.

 

[TheGreatSeeker]

Grace-Like-Rain : Seeker, may I ask if English is your native language? I am wondering because much of what you write (this sentence for example) is not intelligible.

Yes but I am sure I only pass at grade 7 now a days English class.....thank God I will always not be on the internet and be out preaching one day....I am better with my voice. But the demon has me trapped here and I feel happy preaching and this is all I can do, as all I have ever wanted is to preach and the demon does have my mind with much misery and suffering so I am sure that plays a role on it also. Sorry try to make do and ask me something that does not make sense if you can.

 

[TheGreatSeeker]

all I have ever asked of you Christians is to show me one vs to show me marriage is in heaven like a great many people on here say??????????????????????????????????....but most just say My heart and god is love says so....the WORD OF GOD is placed there.I can show marriage in heaven with my faith, but my faith walks alone..and it does not work for you guys. As I am sure none of you will like that. You have to be virgin to find the lord ways so it can work and I am greatly different in faith or deceived by faith, but all the Christians are dead by faith anyway so if i am deceived by the devil I am no different then them anyway for we all have nothing in the end, I just have to wait in misery though in this world alone. I could not touch anyway a woman for I need her love as I pray to God and ask for her, as the only way I can touch a woman is to know that I touch her forever and hold her. Also God will not give another if you are defiled. Seek ye 1ST the kingdom of God and his righteousness and all these things shall be added unto you. NOT 2nd> Also a few times God praised virgins in the bible and the woman he gave in the bible was virgin also. So anyone that has had sex the devil has destroyed your kingdom or a piece of it...and look at the devil everywhere in this world single people???how hard is it to stay a virgin???as the devil the destroyer is on the prowl like a roaring lion???

 

[TheGreatSeeker]

Christians do not even really know what virginity is, and just say wait for marriage....BUT THE DEVIL KNOWS...and he is all over the place making sure you lose it and get your feel. Why would the devil care so much just because you are not married? he is called the destroyer for a reason. Married people that waited divorce just as much as people who did not wait. There is really no great thing in saving yourself for marriage. Heck you can die off tomorrow and as the Lord says with the word of God how his blood can give you another as one flesh, and that dumb thing you waited for is now gone...widows are not virgins???? Silly this world and your love.

 

[hoss2576]

you Christians

granted, I haven't even bothered reading this thread, but aren't you thrown into our lot as well?

 

[Tintin]

TheGreatSeeker,

It's kind of impressive how you can misunderstand/confuse God's Word to the level you do. That said, it's disturbing though, very disturbing.

 

[penknight]

Seeker, I kinda understand what you're trying to say. I know parts of what you're saying are true, but others aren't. I want you be careful because you're adding onto God's word, which is dangerous. I understand that you're upset about how the world is and how people are because I know the feeling, but when you speak about God's word in a gruesome fashion you encourage people to embrace His word with fear, and that isn't how God wants people to receive His word. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you should sugarcoat everything, but you shouldn't be so graphic. Study God's word carefully, and ask Him to help you understand His word because we can't fully understand it on our own, if we could there probably wouldn't be so many religious sects today. Sorry if I put pressure on you when I said I was looking forward to your next thread, I didn't mean to. Anyway, you don't need to try so hard. Just ask God when and how to use His word and opportunies to do so will follow. It also helps to stay calm. You should visit biblehub.com the commentary always helps me out when I don't understand a verse. Catch you later.

(No likes please.)

 

[TheGreatSeeker]

Tintin: I am not sure if you are one of the ones to believe marriage in heaven or not or it is some more powerful kind of love like others in this form.


Matt
…29But Jesus answered and said to them, "You are mistaken, not understanding the Scriptures nor the power of God. 30"For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.31"But regarding the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was spoken to you by God:…


and Luke 34AndJesusansweringsaidunto them,The childrenof thisworldmarry,andare given in marriage:35Butthey which shall be accounted worthyto obtainthatworld,andthe resurrectionfromthe dead,neithermarry,norare given in marriage:36Neithercanthey dieany more:forthey areequal unto the angels;andarethe childrenof God,beingthe childrenof the resurrection.37Nowthatthe deadare raised,evenMosesshewedatthe bush,whenhe calleththe Lordthe Godof Abraham,andthe Godof Isaac,andthe Godof Jacob.38Forhe isnota Godof the dead,butof the living:forallliveunto him.39Thencertainof the scribesansweringsaid,Master,thou hast wellsaid.40Andafter thatthey durstnotaskhimany[question at all].


NOw I can read those scriptures which I was blind at first and had to do a lot of meditating to see I can have marriage in heaven, so i am sure all you will see is what you will see...there is no marriage in heaven


penknight: I would be greatly honored if you can show me how I am adding. I may have said something like virginity and made it my faith, but Christians do also as there is no scripture that saving yourself for marriage is more holy...just fear the Lord or burn in hell for your playing around so people have to wait for marriage or are suppose to as God does not like fornication. Virginity is really nothing to this world AM I CORRECT? show scriptures about virginity??. The rest of my topic I believe is the truth about how I see the flesh and the lust of it. BUT I am so sure I am also correct in virgins and God will only join people spiritually and as one in the spirit if you are virgin, but the world only knows the flesh and being joined as one flesh. The scriptures do say to not desire the the lust of the flesh and everyone is being joined as one in the flesh. The scriptures also say to not desire dust of this world while everyone is as per the scriptures I showed above in matt and luke you are dust in the wind with marriage.

 

[Tintin]

The only marriage in Heaven, or rather, on the New Heavens and the New Earth, will be the ultimate marriage, the marriage to complete all marriages - that of Christ (the Groom) to His Body (the Church, the Bride).

 

[TheGreatSeeker]

Tintin: so you are one of those Christians then. There are so many different Christians all talking with their own truth on here. Heck even myself but I believe I am the truth...demon or not....what do you think about your wife? if you have one? will you know her in heaven? have any love for her, or is at as you stated you are the bride Christ and she is dead and gone and dust in the wind to you???or you have no need for that thing in your arms for Jesus is there???? I can show you with matt and luke that a person could have marriage in heaven. But the wisdom is for me and not you, unless you are virgin. IF not you have to be like the angels and there is nothing you can do about it and you will only have God in heaven and if you see me I will bring you MUCH suffering and torture...and you might not for it took a long time for God to open the book to me as I was in torturer of the thought to be like the angels and had to meditate on God why he kills of your marriage...like you state and only have him.

 

[TheGreatSeeker]

Treasures in Heaven
19"Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal.20"But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys, and where thieves do not break in or steal;…Yes your marriage is rust. or a thief called adultery can come and steal.

1 john 2:15-17
15 Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, love for the Father[a] is not in them.16 For everything in the world—the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life—comes not from the Father but from the world.17 The world and its desires pass away, but whoever does the will of God lives forever.

are my main vs about God telling you all to not desire your dust flesh and your lust of your flesh of a wife as you do lust her flesh being joined as one in the flesh, and like many do know your marriage is all worldly.

 

[Tintin]

Tintin: so you are one of those Christians then. There are so many different Christians all talking with their own truth on here. Heck even myself but I believe I am the truth...demon or not....what do you think about your wife? if you have one? will you know her in heaven? have any love for her, or is at as you stated you are the bride Christ and she is dead and gone and dust in the wind to you???or you have no need for that thing in your arms for Jesus is there???? I can show you with matt and luke that a person could have marriage in heaven. But the wisdom is for me and not you, unless you are virgin. IF not you have to be like the angels and there is nothing you can do about it and you will only have God in heaven and if you see me I will bring you MUCH suffering and torture...and you might not for it took a long time for God to open the book to me as I was in torturer of the thought to be like the angels and had to meditate on God why he kills of your marriage...like you state and only have him.

Yes, I am one of those Christians who cares what God says rather than one who makes up their own teachings. You believe you're speaking the truth, demon or not? That's very disturbing. I don't have a wife yet, but I hope to be married sometime in the not-too-distant future. In Heaven, the Body of Christ will relate as brothers and sisters in Christ, minus all the nonsense that comes with sin and the consequences of sin. Yes, I'm a virgin, but I really don't see what that has to do with this topic. Our past sins aren't counted against us when we've repented, have faith in and are in Christ. Nor are our present and future sins. I'm not saying to go out and willfully sin, but God's grace is still a scandalous love.

Edit:
You're going to bring me much suffering and torture? What is your problem? You have mental issues, get help.

 

[penknight]

I'll ignore your sarcastic remark this time. I have class in the morning, so I have to go to sleep. But I'll be back to tell you what you're doing wrong and I'll have a list of questions for you.

 

[TheGreatSeeker]

Tintin: well I am very proud of you to desire your wife as a sister in heaven if you even see her in heaven when you leave this world. And no I will not bring you torture for you are a virgin but I do not believe God will let you see either, for you love it that your wife is a sister in heaven....and if you ever get married and death comes to her first, you can have another sister as one flesh also..and another as the scriptures do say how the Lord can hand you 7 sisters all one flesh on your worldly sister heart. By my faith because you are flesh you will not even be looking for her in heaven brother, and you will love me...this demon man just as much as your sister. Or if you find your 2nd widow sister In heaven you will be born anew and this world will pass away like it is written in 1 Cor 7:29. I am glad your truth has brought you nothing but death to your marriage. I will have a wife in heaven and jesus as my Groom also jesus will give this part of his bride a reward...but you he will bring you death do you apart and other treasures in heaven I am sure for he is a great king.

I will not show you then the faith. I do not want to.