Why do you as a christian not see that none of you are Adam and Eve?

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penknight: i was greatly honored to have you talk to me and show me how I add as you are a nice person and you make me happy just talking to you...was not trying to be sarcastic and I look forward to your questions.
 

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Tintin: well I am very proud of you to desire your wife as a sister in heaven if you even see her in heaven when you leave this world. And no I will not bring you torture for you are a virgin but I do not believe God will let you see either, for you love it that your wife is a sister in heaven....and if you ever get married and death comes to her first, you can have another sister as one flesh also..and another as the scriptures do say how the Lord can hand you 7 sisters all one flesh on your worldly sister heart. By my faith because you are flesh you will not even be looking for her in heaven brother, and you will love me...this demon man just as much as your sister. Or if you find your 2nd widow sister In heaven you will be born anew and this world will pass away like it is written in 1 Cor 7:29. I am glad your truth has brought you nothing but death to your marriage. I will have a wife in heaven and jesus as my Groom also jesus will give this part of his bride a reward...but you he will bring you death do you apart and other treasures in heaven I am sure for he is a great king.

I will not show you then the faith. I do not want to.

Wait.. WHAT??? "Wife in heaven and Jesus as my Groom"... WHAT???

When you get to heaven, you will recognise the ones you know. But the relationships will cease to exist. If you meet your parents or your wife or your children or your friends, you will recognize them in heaven BUT the 'blood relations' will cease to exist. What I mean to say is that if you meet your wife in heaven, you will recognize her as a person but not as your wife. Does that clarify things for you?
 
Aug 22, 2014
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Roh_Chris:

Wait.. WHAT??? "Wife in heaven and Jesus as my Groom"... WHAT???


When you get to heaven, you will recognise the ones you know. But the relationships will cease to exist. If you meet your parents or your wife or your children or your friends, you will recognize them in heaven BUT the 'blood relations' will cease to exist. What I mean to say is that if you meet your wife in heaven, you will recognize her as a person but not as your wife. Does that clarify things for you?


That is what I preach against and it is the truth, and Jesus IS the destroyer of families...and he is the great destroyer. But look at your hearts is he the destroyer for he tells you ahead of time you are all dust in the wind. And you are correct you will recognize her as a person...BUT you will not even be looking for her also and many never EVER see her again as billions of people are in heaven. you might see her maybe????but you will not even care to look for her, you are correct and I am glad you have some truth in you and how the blood relationship are gone...and your friends I believe also, but do not quote me on that..heaven is like a new baby born in a new world with this world not there no more a COMPLETE BRAIN WASH washed clean by the blood of the lamb.

I on the other hand will have a wife in heaven and Jesus will also be my groom in heaven. Christians like the fellow I just talked to in that post you posted just like to think Jesus is their groom and death to their marriage....


good debate with me but I am going to bed....show me how I will not have marriage in heaven with your word???
 

Roh_Chris

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I on the other hand will have a wife in heaven and Jesus will also be my groom in heaven. Christians like the fellow I just talked to in that post you posted just like to think Jesus is their groom and death to their marriage....


good debate with me but I am going to bed....show me how I will not have marriage in heaven with your word???
You shall not have marriage in heaven.

Problemo?

 

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Roh_Chris:

Wait.. WHAT??? "Wife in heaven and Jesus as my Groom"... WHAT???


When you get to heaven, you will recognise the ones you know. But the relationships will cease to exist. If you meet your parents or your wife or your children or your friends, you will recognize them in heaven BUT the 'blood relations' will cease to exist. What I mean to say is that if you meet your wife in heaven, you will recognize her as a person but not as your wife. Does that clarify things for you?


That is what I preach against and it is the truth, and Jesus IS the destroyer of families...and he is the great destroyer. But look at your hearts is he the destroyer for he tells you ahead of time you are all dust in the wind. And you are correct you will recognize her as a person...BUT you will not even be looking for her also and many never EVER see her again as billions of people are in heaven. you might see her maybe????but you will not even care to look for her, you are correct and I am glad you have some truth in you and how the blood relationship are gone...and your friends I believe also, but do not quote me on that..heaven is like a new baby born in a new world with this world not there no more a COMPLETE BRAIN WASH washed clean by the blood of the lamb.

I on the other hand will have a wife in heaven and Jesus will also be my groom in heaven. Christians like the fellow I just talked to in that post you posted just like to think Jesus is their groom and death to their marriage....


good debate with me but I am going to bed....show me how I will not have marriage in heaven with your word???
Well, You seem very convinced of your teachings. Unless you feel like you have the need to write on this forum to justify what you believe in.
Is your purpose to convert us to "your way" of believing? or to love us? :)
What's your purpose in life? To love thy neighbor as thyself and to LOVE your enemies? or to smite the unbelievers.? To show "them" the right way of believing?
I hope you have peace in your heart and are successful in whatever you do, and I mean successful in god's eyes. lol
take care (I have learned that trying to argue with you is like flogging a dead horse lol) :) You seem very convicted.
 
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Seeker, may I ask if English is your native language? I am wondering because much of what you write (this sentence for example) is not intelligible.
I totally admire Grace for being so gracious and for putting forth so much effort into trying to understand someone's perspective, but I have to admit that when I first read this:


my temporary dyslexia set in and my brain interpreted it as, "much of what you write is not intelligent."

D'OH!!! Totally my bad.



I think. (Not.)
Seeker, don't pay any attention to Grace - she likes to correct people all the time. It's like she's walking around with a ruler or something. Anyway, I use big words a lot because I like to sound, you know, perpendicular.
 
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Crazyteen : Well, You seem very convinced of your teachings. Unless you feel like you have the need to write on this forum to justify what you believe in.
Is your purpose to convert us to "your way" of believing? or to love us? :)

I just want the truth crazy teen, and people stop calling me evil for my desire to love a woman and their desire for dust in the wind thinking they are Gods servants smiling at me. To call me evil because I want to love a woman and of the devil for i want to hold her forever in heaven and my teachings are wicked and I distort the scriptures to show how I have marriage in heaven, and they as I look at them my brothers and sisters in Christ, just drop their paints before me licking their worldly tongues at me saying death will come and we love our sister as they show me their scriptures, which I CAN SHOW YOU ALL ANOTHER WAY LIKE A MIRROR another way to look at them without adding to scripture...and sorry i walk with an accuser spirit. I just have a hard time calling christians brother for their love of how that piece of crap thing in their arms is no more....as they lick their lips before me in the mean time saying I get my feel on her...and she can be a sister in heaven when I get there, I only want his world as they OHH YAAAA....I look at them as loveless empty little snakes in love the world.....and I have a hard time not attacking them with this accuser spirit in me.

Sorry I am greatly insulted by faith to be called evil for I desire LOVE, while they think they are servants of the most high God...to play and touch and have a sister..in heaven. I can not even touch a woman without knowing she is mine forever and ever.
 
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Seeker, don't pay any attention to Grace - she likes to correct people all the time. It's like she's walking around with a ruler or something. Anyway, I use big words a lot because I like to sound, you know, perpendicular.

she is correct, I am a moron in grammar so I do not mind that kind of stuff, they can insult that. I try to grasp it, but I just can not. English is my only language and I hate it....I wish I was Chinese or something with pictures and stuff. English with its to, too, two....and their where, ware..am I missing a ware???and I can not place my ..... properly or something, or my ,,,,, my brain is all scrambled in that area. So they can make fun of me and I am ok with that, it is the truth. Find I pick up better if they would insult and correct me, as I am quick to change my faith if I can be corrected...Like I want with scriptures with my other problems.
 
Aug 22, 2014
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alight I will try to show you how I look at it. But I could not see it without much mediation and of course the simple desire for love in search of heavenly things WHICH THAT ALONE should scare you all and your worldly little hearts on it and how you all know there is no marriage in heaven as you go and take the world not listing to scriptures telling you all to desire heavenly thing...it will be hard to teach for you all love your wife's dead and dust in the wind...and pearls before swine. BUT I will show you how I read these scriptures and you can SHOW ME how I am wrong...not just say I twist it.

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29But Jesus answered and said to them, "You are mistaken, not understanding the Scriptures nor the power of God. 30"For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.31"But regarding the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was spoken to you by God:…


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34AndJesusansweringsaidunto them,The childrenof thisworldmarry,andare given in marriage:35Butthey which shall be accounted worthyto obtainthatworld,andthe resurrectionfromthe dead,neithermarry,norare given in marriage:36Neithercanthey dieany more:forthey areequal unto the angels;andarethe childrenof God,beingthe childrenof the resurrection.37Nowthatthe deadare raised,evenMosesshewedatthe bush,whenhe calleththe Lordthe Godof Abraham,andthe Godof Isaac,andthe Godof Jacob.38Forhe isnota Godof the dead,butof the living:forallliveunto him.39Thencertainof the scribesansweringsaid,Master,thou hast wellsaid.40Andafter thatthey durstnotaskhimany[question at all].

You need the both books together to get the full understanding. Because you do not know the power of God...which in the beginning of this form I showed you with your Solomon nature and the dog he is and his many and his father david. In the Resurrection now go to luke vs 34. Many different translations of the bible. I Like KJV or the catholic bible and there are many with the correct teaching. The CHILDREN of this world...WHEN GOD CALLS YOU A CHILD OF THE WORLD...YOU SHOULD HAVE FEAR IN YOUR EYES FOR YOU ARE NOT HIS CHILDREN..but SERVANTS of the world. Children of the devil, Children of the god of this world..the children of this world marry and are givin in marriage.

35. For in the Resurrection THEY(children of the world)...THEY NOT EVERYONE... (who are not thrown into hell )and are worthy to obtain that world, and the Resurrection as many of you children of the world will not find heaven..(not saying Christians)THEY neither marry or are given in marriage. But are as the angels in heaven. 36. Neither CAN THEY DIE ANY MORE, FOR ALL YOU CHILDREN OF THE WORLD DEATH IS IN YOUR WAYS AND THE GREAT DESTROYER IS HERE CHILDREN OF THE WORLD and God saved you from dying over and over and over and the devil killing you and GOD ONLY CALLS YOU HIS CHILDREN DEAD ONES WHEN YOU REACH HEAVEN AFTER THE DEVIL TARES THAT THING FROM YOUR ARMS, and MAKES YOU LIKE THE ANGELS. BEING CHILDREN OF GOD, when you reach the Resurrection. Vs 37..bala bla bla nothing to teach. 38..FOR HE IS NOT GOD OF THE DEAD, AND THAT IS ALL YOUR SISTER LITTLE HEARTS AND ALL YOUR FAMILIES ARE IS DEAD AND TO BE LIKE THE ANGELS. But God of the living and if you knew the power of God and his ways WHICH LIVE FOREVER, which he told you all to place your EYES ON HEAVENLY THINGS and to STORE UP YOUR TREASURES IN HEAVEN....YOU WOULD HAVE ALL KNOWN HIM AS THE GOD OF THE LIVING..but you are all children of the world lost in your own ways of the solmon dog flesh being joined as one the flesh, and only know the GOD OF THE DEAD being his children of the world.
 

blue_ladybug

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she is correct, I am a moron in grammar so I do not mind that kind of stuff, they can insult that. I try to grasp it, but I just can not. English is my only language and I hate it....I wish I was Chinese or something with pictures and stuff. English with its to, too, two....and their where, ware..am I missing a ware???and I can not place my ..... properly or something, or my ,,,,, my brain is all scrambled in that area. So they can make fun of me and I am ok with that, it is the truth. Find I pick up better if they would insult and correct me, as I am quick to change my faith if I can be corrected...Like I want with scriptures with my other problems.
thegreatseeker, dont feel bad for spelling typos. We ALL misspell words all the time. :) I can assure you that Grace was NOT trying to insult you OR make fun of you by asking what your native language is. She just knows that people whose first language may not be English, are more prone to spelling errors. :) However, no worries, just use spell check! LOL! :)

Originally Posted by kenthomas27

Seeker, don't pay any attention to Grace - she likes to correct people all the time. It's like she's walking around with a ruler or something. Anyway, I use big words a lot because I like to sound, you know, perpendicular.


There is nothing wrong with correcting someone's grammar, or correcting anything in general, that you know is misspelled or untrue. :)
 
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she is correct, I am a moron in grammar so I do not mind that kind of stuff, they can insult that. I try to grasp it, but I just can not. English is my only language and I hate it....I wish I was Chinese or something with pictures and stuff. English with its to, too, two....and their where, ware..am I missing a ware???and I can not place my ..... properly or something, or my ,,,,, my brain is all scrambled in that area. So they can make fun of me and I am ok with that, it is the truth. Find I pick up better if they would insult and correct me, as I am quick to change my faith if I can be corrected...Like I want with scriptures with my other problems.

Seeker, pay no attention to Kenthomas. He is as perpendicular as they come, man. ;) I wasn't insulting you. I actually was honestly wondering about your native language. Not because of spelling errors but because the wording in your sentences doesn't always get your point across. Just write like you would speak in person, and everything will be fine. Read the sentence back to yourself aloud to make sure it is focused and makes sense to the reader.

Kenthomas, I will deal with you later mister. Have you ever watched The Fantastic Mr. Fox? I think you would love it. But I digress. Go stand in the corner.
 
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but are either homosexual or heterosexual?

Here you have a God destroying all marriages when you leave here telling you all another can have a turn as widows can remarry, and really you are not Adam and Eve for the law itself says you are Adam and EVE'(S) with widows.

Your heterosexual wisdom you have from Adam and Eve, that when they found out they had this WISDOM they hid from God their nakedness. In truth the snake showed everyone nakedness which is your heterosexual wisdom or songs of Solomon and his many, as you yourselves go your own ways KNOWING there is no marriage in heaven, when God told you all to place your eyes on heavenly things, and not to desire the dust of this world. Have any of you thought there might be something wrong with our sex drives???how we have many fish to chose from, and really many eve's, or Adam's. People are lost in the flesh and the lust of it being joined as one in the flesh as God PUTS FEAR in your eyes and ways telling you all to marry or burn, and how he is going to kill it all off when death comes to do you all as per your vows in marriage apart.

I believe strongly it is because humans are lost in their own ways and use this sex appeal upon the flesh and marry, this beast wisdom humans have for many, and pick one from the many fish, when God says ONLY his ways live forever. But what is this way? is there a spiritual sex drive???, or only this human dog nature of the flesh all you Christians and your law walks with how God can say i join another as one flesh and I can gather them in widow remarriage. Or people do not even make it till death now a days and divorce and go have another as one flesh and this gathering of the males on a woman in marriage and out of marriage.

Show me I am wrong, that my righteousness is not of the Lord and my believe of a wife that will be found on earth and in heaven? and it is because you are ALL lost in your own ways of the flesh, that is why you are all cursed to be like the angels neither married or given in marriage, neither male or female as God will destroy man and woman because you do not see the flesh and the many fish. How a pretty woman can gather the men on her with attraction like a female dog, or if this is to harsh, how widows can remarry and how the Lords blood can line them on her in death gathering the Christian bros on your wife???

Do not get me wrong, I do not call God evil but I do call humans and this sex appeal evil, he told you all to place your eyes on heaven and he will kill off your love one day when death comes. Yes God says it is not a sin to marry, but he will be killing it off and you all have to be like the angels and the marriage bed is undefiled. What is so dirty about it that if you do not marry will scream in hell for ever and ever if you are having sex?(depending on your faith with hell and if you believe in that of course) People do not even think this and just love the lust of flesh and join as one flesh and the thought of no marriage in heaven, could the reason be because you are all Adam and Eves blinded by the flesh so he blessed the marriage bed, telling you all hoping you might have some love or care for heaven, that he will come and kill it one day with death do you apart.
Forgive me for not understanding what it is you're trying to say. I have that problem with many people. Mostly with my wife. I did however get your point that God will not allow marriage in heaven. The question "Will there be marriage in heaven?" has an answer.

The Bible tells us, “At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven” (Matthew 22:30). This was Jesus’ answer in response to a question concerning a woman who had been married multiple times in her life —whom would she be married to in heaven (Matthew 22:23-28)? Evidently, there will be no such thing as marriage in heaven. This does not mean that a husband and wife will no longer know each other in heaven. This also does not mean that a husband and wife could not still have a close relationship in heaven. What it does seem to indicate, though, is that a husband and wife will no longer be married in heaven.

Most likely, there will be no marriage in heaven simply because there will be no need for it. When God established marriage, He did so to fill certain needs. First, He saw that Adam was in need of a companion. “The LORD God said, ‘It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him’” (Genesis 2:18). Eve was the solution to the problem of Adam’s loneliness, as well as his need for a “helper,” someone to come alongside him as his companion and go through life by his side. In heaven, however, there will be no loneliness, nor will there be any need for helpers. We will be surrounded by multitudes of believers and angels (Revelation 7:9), and all our needs will be met, including the need for companionship.

Second, God created marriage as a means of procreation and the filling of the earth with human beings. Heaven, however, will not be populated by procreation. Those who go to heaven will get there by faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; they will not be created there by means of reproduction. Therefore, there is no purpose for marriage in heaven since there is no procreation or loneliness.


Read more: Will there be marriage in heaven?
 
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Fishbait: That is incorrect. I can have marriage in heaven and I showed you if you look on this page how I read Matt 22:30, and luke. 1 Cor 7:29 says how this world is passing away so no you will have no marriage and no other feelings for your wife and it will as if you have none when you get to heaven. Basically a person who has never married before will be your wife's friend in heaven and love her just as much as you and you will be just like a virgin there, like you never even had a wife or any thoughts of her.

God also did not create marriage for procreation. The works of Gods hands are LOVE not some cattle God breeding the world like animals. And you are no different then animals going forth and multiplying. God told you over and over to place your eyes on heavenly things and to not desire the world, to at the same time show he is killing your marriage and that thing in your arms you call a wife.

I am the only man to sit with the Lord and ask WHY????as you all just smile at me how dead it is...and I can not help it but get angry at you all...why am I the only one to sit with god in prayer asking why we have to be like the angels and find this faith????

for you to just toss it away saying there simply is no need for it, you have no idea how wicked you are to me...as you feel it up in the mean time. Christians are soulless...and not just you in general. I am use to talking to your kind. Mormons are harder for I feel bad for them when I come to correct them...as they show so much love for a mate in heaven and you have to tare it from their arms and teach them it is dead and all your children.
 
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Fishbait: Forgive me for not understanding what it is you're trying to say. I have that problem with many people. Mostly with my wife. I did however get your point that God will not allow marriage in heaven. The question "Will there be marriage in heaven?" has an answer.


It is my talk about sex drive. I was trying to show the world how I hate heterosexuality and the beast it is and how you all think God created it. Humans use their own ways and find a mate with this beast wisdom upon the flesh. I was trying to show how Adam and Eve HID from God their nakedness and how the snake showed you all nakedness and how God has destroyed it in the end with no marriage in heaven. Sex appeal is evil to me. I sometimes attack God for all know is this beast wisdom heterosexuality and his songs of Solomon word of God and I hate Solomon and that many man he is. BUT I believe God walks with me and my anger for he shows me how he will be killing you all off one day when he told you all to place your eyes on heaven. I am the only man to find our own ways wicked, and how God calls ALL our righteousness as filthy as rags unto him and to seek heaven and earth for a woman's love from God.
 
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Fishbait: Forgive me for not understanding what it is you're trying to say. I have that problem with many people. Mostly with my wife. I did however get your point that God will not allow marriage in heaven. The question "Will there be marriage in heaven?" has an answer.


It is my talk about sex drive. I was trying to show the world how I hate heterosexuality and the beast it is and how you all think God created it. Humans use their own ways and find a mate with this beast wisdom upon the flesh. I was trying to show how Adam and Eve HID from God their nakedness and how the snake showed you all nakedness and how God has destroyed it in the end with no marriage in heaven. Sex appeal is evil to me. I sometimes attack God for all know is this beast wisdom heterosexuality and his songs of Solomon word of God and I hate Solomon and that many man he is. BUT I believe God walks with me and my anger for he shows me how he will be killing you all off one day when he told you all to place your eyes on heaven. I am the only man to find our own ways wicked, and how God calls ALL our righteousness as filthy as rags unto him and to seek heaven and earth for a woman's love from God.
By saying "I hate heterosexuality" may I ask if you're heterosexual? If not what sexual orientation are you?
 

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Seeker, pay no attention to Kenthomas. He is as perpendicular as they come, man. ;) I wasn't insulting you. I actually was honestly wondering about your native language. Not because of spelling errors but because the wording in your sentences doesn't always get your point across. Just write like you would speak in person, and everything will be fine. Read the sentence back to yourself aloud to make sure it is focused and makes sense to the reader.

Kenthomas, I will deal with you later mister. Have you ever watched The Fantastic Mr. Fox? I think you would love it. But I digress. Go stand in the corner.
This was a empathic response full of wisdom and compassion. I don't really know you but I am proud of you.
 
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kenthomas27

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Seeker, pay no attention to Kenthomas. He is as perpendicular as they come, man. ;) I wasn't insulting you. I actually was honestly wondering about your native language. Not because of spelling errors but because the wording in your sentences doesn't always get your point across. Just write like you would speak in person, and everything will be fine. Read the sentence back to yourself aloud to make sure it is focused and makes sense to the reader.

Kenthomas, I will deal with you later mister. Have you ever watched The Fantastic Mr. Fox? I think you would love it. But I digress. Go stand in the corner.
This was a empathic response full of wisdom and compassion. I don't really know you but I am proud of you.

thank you Tourist and i'd like to thank the Academy for this honor! I try very hard to make all my responses wisdomy and smartyish and always make every effort to ......oh. This was for Gracelikerain. ....I feel so ridiculous.
 

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By saying "I hate heterosexuality" may I ask if you're heterosexual? If not what sexual orientation are you?
Er... do we really want to know? >.>