Without wrinkle or spot

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notmyown

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#21
Another possibility is you are lying about trying to look pretty for men and you are really just trying to upstage other women.
bingo
 

Lanolin

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#23
Sheep dont have wrinkles or spots, we are covered in wool
 

Eli1

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#24
do what.
stop advertising on here, nobody cares about your brand ...lol
All, i'm saying is that: "You're going to like the way you look".

Men's warehouse.

 

Lanolin

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#26
I havent used an iron in years

Actually there are now clothes you dont have to iron and some come with wrinkles already put in.

I only ever ironed my school uniform. When I have worn a uniform for work, it never needed to be ironed. Uusually take it straight of the line and fold it and not leave it sitting in the bottom of the laundry basket why make more work for yourself?
 

Lanolin

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#28
If you wear silk or have silk sheets, I dont think it needs to be ironed

Knits and jersey doesnt need to be ironed either.

I heard L'oreal took over The Body Shop.

The Body Shop is not a place where you buy extra bodies. They dont have wrinkle creams, but they did used to sell banana shampoo.

Or you could just use real bananas and mash them up to put in your hair. Could work.
 

seoulsearch

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#29
Do you think beauty standards for women are too high.
What about older women of course they are going to get wrinkles and spots, if you ever walk in daylight. So why do men insist women be without wrinkles or spots? We don't ask the same of men.

Maintaining beauty is a full time job, not to mention super expensive if going by the prices beauty salons charge. Are you sure you can afford one lol
It's been interesting reading the answers here... I know each one is sincere, but I guess it all stems from individual experiences.

I hate to bore long-time members by repeating my life story all the time, but it's the only one I have. Growing up as one of maybe only 6 Asians in an all-white, All-American, very conservative town in Nowheresville USA had a profound effect on my self-image and beliefs about beauty standards.

I'm not meaning to play a race card here, but beauty was white, pure and simple -- it was just a fact in that area. I think it's admirable that many of the posters in this thread don't seem to care about beauty standards and/or have never let the status quo affect them much, but unfortunately, I wasn't as Teflon-coated, though I wish I were.

Even as an adult, I've still had incidences of kids "slanting" their eyes at me, and yes, it still affects me. When I was growing up, I wanted round, blue eyes, long, blond hair, and a much taller frame, because I thought it would ensure that I would finally fit in.

I'm sure everyone here has gone through some sort of rejection, and that's what really rooted most of my own self-disdain. I would get crushes on someone and didn't know how to not take it personally when I saw what was chosen instead (now it could have been ALL about her personality, sure, but...)

The pinnacle came when my then-husband chose a tall, leaner, younger redhead we worked with to have a relationship with instead of me. This pretty much shattered my self-worth and confidence -- most of us seem to have a limited amount to begin with -- and it's not something I think I'll ever get back. I always say he ripped my soul out when he left, and I've spent all this time (with God by my side, of course,) trying to grow a new one. (It's a complicated and long story -- one of the reasons I felt so bonded to him was because he was half Asian and he could relate to a lot of things, such as identity issues in my life that no one else ever had ever even asked me about.) 's

I think it's nearly impossible to go being rejected by someone important to you (whether a spouse, employer, friend, relative, etc.) and not have it tarnish your sense of self when compared to what that other person chooses instead of you.

Years after my husband divorced me, I tried the Christian dating sites a bit and yes, I can reinforce the belief that the good majority of men I observed (particularly in the main chats) were looking for women a lot younger than them, and yes, they cared an awful lot about what the women looked like. And yes, the women cared a lot about what the men looked like and how much money they made.

One major reason I gave up is because of all the Unicorn Thinking -- everyone demanding something from someone else that they didn't qualify for themselves, such as men who wanted thin, fit women, but looked 8 1/2 months pregnant -- with twins -- themselves, and women demanding men who made 6 figure salaries when they themselves didn't work.

I understand there is some give and take in all of this, etc., but I think y'all know what I mean.

I can openly admit that I DO feel the pressures of beauty standards, but I also try to use it as motivation to try to stay healthy and active.

As a Christian, of course I know that our true worth and beauty is in God, but I think most everyone has some kind of insecurity, whether it has to do with looks or skills or our own personal quirks or whatever else it may be, that are a lifelong process of learning to let God handle instead of trying to do it all ourselves.

I am very much on that journey of still learning as I go.
 

Lanolin

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#30
well the number of asians in my community were just my family and at school you could count on one hand. However it wasnt 'all white' imagine what a nightmare it would be to live in an 'all white' community and you the only one with black hair.

Lots of asians take to dying their hair or bleaching it when living outside of asia.

I think the reverse is true if you are blonde and then go to africa you going to stick out but you may get a lot of curiousity and respect if you appear like a vampire or ghost in their midst.

There are black sheep and also black AND white sheep, sort of like siamese cats.

Long Golden hair has always been the standard for beauty in many parts of the world. I had a friend who was amazonian tall she could have been a supermodel. She tried it but hated the superficial life and wanted to be a teacher instead.
 

Lanolin

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I remember Princess Diana, who was the most photographed woman in the entire world at one stage, had an eating disorder (bulimia), cut her hair short, and would wear jeans when she didnt have to wear princess dresses.

She also didnt like her nose much. But she didnt get plastic surgery like many rich women do.

Her ex hsuband, the now King dated a sucession of tall blondes before her.

Her height meant she couldnt be a ballet dancer which was her first love, apparently you CAN be too tall.
When she didnt want the paps chasing her, she wore a brunette wig.
 

Lynx

Folksy yet erudite
Aug 13, 2014
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#32
I havent used an iron in years

Actually there are now clothes you dont have to iron and some come with wrinkles already put in.

I only ever ironed my school uniform. When I have worn a uniform for work, it never needed to be ironed. Uusually take it straight of the line and fold it and not leave it sitting in the bottom of the laundry basket why make more work for yourself?
Stop advertising school uniforms and laundry baskets.
 

Lanolin

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#33
Most pale skins people, if they are healthy, their skin is actually pink, not white. If its really white, something is wrong with them. I would call a doctor, maybe they have shock.
 

Lynx

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#34
It's been interesting reading the answers here... I know each one is sincere, but I guess it all stems from individual experiences.

I hate to bore long-time members by repeating my life story all the time, but it's the only one I have. Growing up as one of maybe only 6 Asians in an all-white, All-American, very conservative town in Nowheresville USA had a profound effect on my self-image and beliefs about beauty standards.

I'm not meaning to play a race card here, but beauty was white, pure and simple -- it was just a fact in that area. I think it's admirable that many of the posters in this thread don't seem to care about beauty standards and/or have never let the status quo affect them much, but unfortunately, I wasn't as Teflon-coated, though I wish I were.

Even as an adult, I've still had incidences of kids "slanting" their eyes at me, and yes, it still affects me. When I was growing up, I wanted round, blue eyes, long, blond hair, and a much taller frame, because I thought it would ensure that I would finally fit in.

I'm sure everyone here has gone through some sort of rejection, and that's what really rooted most of my own self-disdain. I would get crushes on someone and didn't know how to not take it personally when I saw what was chosen instead (now it could have been ALL about her personality, sure, but...)

The pinnacle came when my then-husband chose a tall, leaner, younger redhead we worked with to have a relationship with instead of me. This pretty much shattered my self-worth and confidence -- most of us seem to have a limited amount to begin with -- and it's not something I think I'll ever get back. I always say he ripped my soul out when he left, and I've spent all this time (with God by my side, of course,) trying to grow a new one. (It's a complicated and long story -- one of the reasons I felt so bonded to him was because he was half Asian and he could relate to a lot of things, such as identity issues in my life that no one else ever had ever even asked me about.) 's

I think it's nearly impossible to go being rejected by someone important to you (whether a spouse, employer, friend, relative, etc.) and not have it tarnish your sense of self when compared to what that other person chooses instead of you.

Years after my husband divorced me, I tried the Christian dating sites a bit and yes, I can reinforce the belief that the good majority of men I observed (particularly in the main chats) were looking for women a lot younger than them, and yes, they cared an awful lot about what the women looked like. And yes, the women cared a lot about what the men looked like and how much money they made.

One major reason I gave up is because of all the Unicorn Thinking -- everyone demanding something from someone else that they didn't qualify for themselves, such as men who wanted thin, fit women, but looked 8 1/2 months pregnant -- with twins -- themselves, and women demanding men who made 6 figure salaries when they themselves didn't work.

I understand there is some give and take in all of this, etc., but I think y'all know what I mean.

I can openly admit that I DO feel the pressures of beauty standards, but I also try to use it as motivation to try to stay healthy and active.

As a Christian, of course I know that our true worth and beauty is in God, but I think most everyone has some kind of insecurity, whether it has to do with looks or skills or our own personal quirks or whatever else it may be, that are a lifelong process of learning to let God handle instead of trying to do it all ourselves.

I am very much on that journey of still learning as I go.
I sit corrected. (I am far too indolent to stand corrected.) Apparently guys on dating sites do care about makeup.

The guys I know don't care about it though. But they never talk about going on dating sites.
 

seoulsearch

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#35
I sit corrected. (I am far too indolent to stand corrected.) Apparently guys on dating sites do care about makeup.

The guys I know don't care about it though. But they never talk about going on dating sites.
While I agree that makeup has its limits, and a point where it becomes too artificial, I think the common eye often doesn't know what's makeup and what isn't since it's become so normalized.

I find the most interesting beauty bloggers to be the ones who have problematic skin and aren't afraid to show the dramatic before and after images of what makeup can do. The "no-makeup makeup look" is a very popular trend with many women, and it's fascinating to see how dramatic and even life-altering natural makeup can be.

A group of about 6 of us CC'ers had a meetup last year, and the people there could see why I wear makeup. I have a long history of skin problems (acne, rosacea, psoriasis, eczema -- the dermatologist even said she doesn't think it's any particular thing, but a combination of all of them.) Many times it's due to things you can't control, even though others on the outside will just tell you to "just wash your face, stop eating junk food, and stop wearing makeup."

Sure, all those things can make it worse. But when you've tried to eliminate as many outside factors as you can, some of us are just not born with socially acceptable skin (and nowadays especially, you really don't want to look like you have something contagious, even when it's not.) For example, many people with psoriasis are mistakenly seen as having leprosy or some other dangerous skin disease, and are treated accordingly in public.

The people at this meetup group got to see my natural skin in the evenings, and there is a stark difference (even when I'm having just a minor flare-up.) I'm just thankful that I seem to have found the right products to allow me to pass as somewhat normal during the day. I've even had a few people say, "I really like that you don't wear makeup," which to me, is the ultimate compliment, because they obviously can't tell. I don't go outside without it, but when I'm at home and not going anywhere, I don't wear it, to give my skin a break.

I've always had a heart for people with skin issues, and pray for the ones I see on YouTube regularly, because I know how painful and embarrassing it can be.

I've also always harbored a secret dream of studying to be a makeup artist who specializes in helping people with skin problems... Maybe someday.
 

MsMediator

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#37
Where did you get this idea? I haven't heard it from any men. I sure have heard it a LOT from women, about men.

Of course women generally assume men are generally lying a lot. This could be one of those areas where y'all assume we're lying.

Y'all just overthinking it. We're not nearly that complex.
Ive heard it in the form of off hand comments from men, that a man must be real desperate if he went out with her.. etc.
 

Gideon300

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#39
I havent used an iron in years

Actually there are now clothes you dont have to iron and some come with wrinkles already put in.

I only ever ironed my school uniform. When I have worn a uniform for work, it never needed to be ironed. Uusually take it straight of the line and fold it and not leave it sitting in the bottom of the laundry basket why make more work for yourself?
If you like, you can buy clothes that are already worn out, complete with holes. Sometimes I think evolution is true except we are going in reverse.