Best man in a gay wedding

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Ahwatukee

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I agree with you 100%. Christianity is about showing love and support, not judging other for who they decide to love.
The Lord said that, all sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven. He also said that, unless you repent you will also perish. The invitation for salvation and eternal life is to those living a same-sex life style as well. However, the Lord also said that, unless you repent you will also perish. That said, the on-going problem is that, those who are living a same-sex life style have justified and embraced that life style instead of repenting. Jesus did not shed His blood so that we could pick and choose which sins we wanted to continue to indulge in. We are to repent of the sinful nature, not embrace it.

Paul wrote to the Corinthians regarding a man who was sleeping with his step mother and they were proud of it. Paul then said, "Don't you know that a little yeast works through the whole batch of dough?"

"It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that is intolerable even among pagans: A man has his father’s wife. And you are proud! Shouldn’t you rather have been stricken with grief and removed from your fellowship the man who did this?"

Paul then goes on to say "Expel the wicked man from among you.”

Then in Romans regarding men being sexually immoral with men and women being sexually immoral with women, Paul says:

"Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things are worthy of death, they not only continue to do these things, but also approve of those who practice them.

By your post, you are one of those who approve of those who practice their ungodly actions!

Yes, the LGBTQ have the same invitation of salvation and eternal life, but God requires repentance.
 

17Bees

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Ask yourself this are you hurting anyone by being a good friend? I totally support you doing it. I'm Catholic but I'm also a strong supporter of the LGBT because God made us all in his vision.
SundayMorning, I think of myself as Catholic also, but I have to agree with Ahwatukee on this. And I have to agree with him with the utmost urgency! I think that Ahwatukee and I might have different views on many things, but this is crystal clear. There's going to be many many people who tell us how unloving we are or how homophobic and how unaccepting we are and use all sorts of negative derivatives against us - including OUR OWN CHURCH but please know these are end times. God does love us all but He does not condone this sexual immorality or any other un-repented sin. And if you buy into this "God is my buddy and He made us the sinful way we are and accepts LBGT community" then knock yourself out but you're walking lock step and single file with millions of others into oblivion. That's just the way it is. This thing is so close so please FEAR GOD. I don't ever use all these capital letters and I realize it might look weird, but know it's important - that important. Thanks.
 

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The Lord said that, all sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven. He also said that, unless you repent you will also perish. The invitation for salvation and eternal life is to those living a same-sex life style as well. However, the Lord also said that, unless you repent you will also perish. That said, the on-going problem is that, those who are living a same-sex life style have justified and embraced that life style instead of repenting. Jesus did not shed His blood so that we could pick and choose which sins we wanted to continue to indulge in. We are to repent of the sinful nature, not embrace it.

Paul wrote to the Corinthians regarding a man who was sleeping with his step mother and they were proud of it. Paul then said, "Don't you know that a little yeast works through the whole batch of dough?"

"It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that is intolerable even among pagans: A man has his father’s wife. And you are proud! Shouldn’t you rather have been stricken with grief and removed from your fellowship the man who did this?"

Paul then goes on to say "Expel the wicked man from among you.”

Then in Romans regarding men being sexually immoral with men and women being sexually immoral with women, Paul says:

"Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things are worthy of death, they not only continue to do these things, but also approve of those who practice them.

By your post, you are one of those who approve of those who practice their ungodly actions!

Yes, the LGBTQ have the same invitation of salvation and eternal life, but God requires repentance.
Do you think you can change a homosexual by just telling that "Oh God will curse you if you do same sex marriage"

"God will bring you to hell if you don't repent"

Tell me how can you convince a homosexual not to do same sex relationship?
 

Ahwatukee

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Do you think you can change a homosexual by just telling that "Oh God will curse you if you do same sex marriage"

"God will bring you to hell if you don't repent"

Tell me how can you convince a homosexual not to do same sex relationship?
Hello Jameen!

No, I don't think that one can change someone who is living a same-sex life style to not live that way. All we can and are supposed to do, is proclaim the good news of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins and the promise of eternal life. It is God the Father who draws people to Christ:

"No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day."

And God also says:

"I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion."

The problem is when you testify about Jesus and share the word of God, unbelievers are convicted of their sins, but they love sin and want to remain in it. They will not come into the light because they love darkness more. It requires the Father revealing the truth of His Son to them in their spirit.

It has to do with unbelief. If people could spend just 15 minutes in Hades and then be brought back, I believe that even the most hardened person would be wailing for forgiveness. The problem is, once one dies in their sins, their record is sealed and there is no coming back. Regarding this, I just had another friend commit suicide last week. I believe that their thinking is that when they kill themselves they just simply fade to black, non-existence. It shows that they do not believe in God's word regarding this issue, for if the unbeliever knew that at the time of death that their spirit would depart and decent down to Hades in torment in flame conscious and aware, then I'm sure that we wouldn't have all these suicides taking place. It all has to do with faith in the word of God.

The way that I would present this issue to those living a same-sex life style is that I would first tell them "You have the freedom to continue living that life style, if that is your choice to do so. God will allow you that free will. However, the consequences are the same, which is condemning judgment and eternal separation from God in the lake of fire." I'm sure that even after you told them that they had the freedom to continue living that life style, that they would still call you "a hater" and that because they don't like hearing about the consequences. They don't like to hear that what they are doing is wrong. That is why they have gone to so much effort to get this life style to be viewed by the world as being normal. Christians are their obstacle, because we proclaim God's truth regarding this issue and they don't like that.
 

Adstar

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Am I sinning if I allowed myself to be the best man in a gay wedding even I myself do not believe that both sexes should have romantic relationships?

Just for the sake for good camaraderie for my homosexual friend.
Going to a wedding is showing support for the union.. So yes it is sin to attend a Gay wedding..

The only exception would be if during the ceremony when the celebrant asks """is there anyone here with a reason why these two should not be wed.""" Then you could come forward and preach against Gay marriages.. But i very much doubt that this question would be asked in a gay wedding ceremony. I doubt they would take such a risk..

So i would never attend a gay wedding...
 

Adstar

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Do you think you can change a homosexual by just telling that "Oh God will curse you if you do same sex marriage"

"God will bring you to hell if you don't repent"

Tell me how can you convince a homosexual not to do same sex relationship?
Eternal salvation is not achieved by being 100% successful in ceasing to sin... If that where the requirement then not one person would be saved and Jesus would have suffered that terrible death for nothing..

So from time to time a homosexual Christian might fall down and sin.. But if that homosexual is repentant believing that the physical sex act of homosexuality is an abomination to God and acknowledges their sins to God and thanks God for the Salvation through the forgiveness of the LORD Jesus Christ then that homosexuals sin will be forgiven them just as the sin of the thief will be forgiven them and any other sin that is common for us humans..

But gays getting married is a celebration of their sexual actions.. it is a celebration of what God declares to be an abomination.. This is a clear act of Willful Sin.. It is an in your face,, proud defiance,, of the will of God.. Those who celebrate willful sin and persist in their rebellion unto death will not be covered by the Mercy of the Atonement of the Lord Jesus Christ..
 

Waggles

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Am I sinning if I allowed myself to be the best man in a gay wedding even I myself do not believe that both sexes should have romantic relationships?
Just for the sake for good camaraderie for my homosexual friend.
What would Jesus do?
Would our Lord and God attend a homosexual wedding? A perversion and distortion of the very God-given
sacrament instituted by God for humankind …
4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
Matthew 19:

How can you possibly consider yourself an ambassador to Christ Jesus and his righteousness when you step out to publicly
endorse a blasphemous corruption of what is God given and sacred?
What happened to separating oneself from the filth and the lusts of the flesh and the world?
You certainly do not represent the gospel of salvation.
 

Waggles

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6 And He said to me, It is done. I am the Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who thirsts I will give of the fountain
of the Water of Life freely.
7 He who overcomes will inherit all things, and I will be his God, and he will be My son.
8 But the fearful, and the unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, [male prostitutes; libertines] and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, will have their part in the Lake burning with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.
Revelation 21:
 

Waggles

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Do you think you can change a homosexual by just telling that "Oh God will curse you if you do same sex marriage"
It is not within your power to change a homosexual (or any other sinner) into a saint.
Preach to your friends and lead them to Jesus as their Lord and Redeemer.
Get them baptised in water and baptised in the Holy Spirit, then God will change them from bad to good.

He who believes will be saved, but he who believes not will be condemned.
Not much wriggle room.
 

Alertandawake

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Hello Jameen,



I would say that by being his best man, the message you would be sending is that you support it and condone his practices. If your friend is one who does not recognize same-sex as a sin, then you know what the consequences will be according to God's word, right?

"In like manner, Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, who indulged in sexual immorality and pursued strange flesh, are on display as an example of those who sustain the punishment of eternal fire."

"Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?"

I have to side with Ahwatukee on this one. His response is correct. By agreeing to be best man on such a event, this very action automatically speaks for itself. For such a event, you cannot be a best man, because by agreeing to be best man, you are showing your support for such a event.

Personally, as a person very strong in my faith, I believe love is love. God created us all for a reason and makes no mistakes. Because of this, I do not see an issue with you supporting your friend.
By this man supporting his friend and agreeing to be best man, he is at the same time supporting and celebrating an act that by definition is a detestation/abomination according to scripture. Check out Leviticus 18.22 for the reference.

And as Ahwatukee already mentioned, the reference to Sodom and Gomorrah (Jude 1.7) is quite serious. The remains of such places were found and there is the brimstone evidence.
 

theanointedsinner

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whatever you do, don't be a doormat if you can avoid being a doormat in this situation
 

martony

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Homosexualism is a sin and all who do encourage it in any form are also a partaker of that sin. As a Christian you are the light for others to see and should try to get your friend out of homosexualism and not to encourage his gay practices.
 

martony

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Olivia123 Are you sure you are born again? Loving someone doesn't mean encouraging sinful. My dear, u need to circumcised at heart by being born again then you would know what true love really is all about.
 

theanointedsinner

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Satan is quite an attacker,

if you join, Satan will use that as "support for sin"
if you don't join, Satan will use that as "evidence" that Christians are "unloving"

reminds me of Jesus, in John 8, where the pharisees (who try to trap Jesus) ask Jesus if such woman should be stoned
Jesus answered "he who is without sin, let him be the first to condemn"

for this, pray for wisdom
 

jameen

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What if you are offered 1000 to 10 000 US DOLLARS to be the best man in a gay wedding in a scenario that you are in a dire situation to get funds to raise your family well because life is becoming harder today?

besides it is not a crime anyway.
 
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What if you are offered 1000 to 10 000 US DOLLARS to be the best man in a gay wedding in a scenario that you are in a dire situation to get funds to raise your family well because life is becoming harder today?

besides it is not a crime anyway.
Would you use that type of reasoning to receive the mark? By doing so, you would be compromising with God and His word. By being best man, you would be condoning and supporting a life-style that the Lord hates!

The invitation for the forgiveness of sins and eternal life, is extended to everyone, including those living a same-sex life style. Therefore, it is not an issue with whether or not they can be saved, they can! However, the problem is that the majority of those who are living a same-sex life style do not want to repent, but instead justify and embrace it. Those who are living this life style and calling themselves Christians, want to continue in that life style stating that God loves them just as they are, which is a deception of the devil. For scripture makes it very clear that those who willfully live according to the sinful nature will not inherit the kingdom of God. They're just deceiving themselves.

By being his best man, you would be compromising with God and His word. You would be sending a message to him and those at the wedding as being a Christian that this union is ok. How could you be happy about it? How could you rejoice in it? How can you wish them a blessed life when what they are doing leads to condemning judgment and eternal separation from God in punishment?

"Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them." - Romans 1:32

By being his best man, like the scripture above, you would be approving of what they are practicing.

Just telling you the truth.
 
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Would you use that type of reasoning to receive the mark? By doing so, you would be compromising with God and His word. By being best man, you would be condoning and supporting a life-style that the Lord hates!

The invitation for the forgiveness of sins and eternal life, is extended to everyone, including those living a same-sex life style. Therefore, it is not an issue with whether or not they can be saved, they can! However, the problem is that the majority of those who are living a same-sex life style do not want to repent, but instead justify and embrace it. Those who are living this life style and calling themselves Christians, want to continue in that life style stating that God loves them just as they are, which is a deception of the devil. For scripture makes it very clear that those who willfully live according to the sinful nature will not inherit the kingdom of God. They're just deceiving themselves.

By being his best man, you would be compromising with God and His word. You would be sending a message to him and those at the wedding as being a Christian that this union is ok. How could you be happy about it? How could you rejoice in it? How can you wish them a blessed life when what they are doing leads to condemning judgment and eternal separation from God in punishment?

"Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them." - Romans 1:32

By being his best man, like the scripture above, you would be approving of what they are practicing.

Just telling you the truth.
what you are saying is, what profits a man if he gain the world's wealth yet loses his soul

am I right about what you are saying?
 

Waggles

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25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for it,
26 that He might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the Word,
27 that He might present it to Himself as the glorious church, without spot or wrinkle or any such things, but that it should be
holy and without blemish.
Ephesians 5:

according as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love,
Ephesians 1:4

And there shall in no way enter into it anything that defiles, or any making an abomination or a lie; but only those who are written in the Lamb's Book of Life.
Revelation 21:27

13 Therefore girding up the loins of your mind, being sober, perfectly hope for the grace being brought to you at the revelation
of Jesus Christ,
14 as obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance,
15 but according to the Holy One who has called you, you also become holy in all conduct,
16 because it is written, "Be holy, for I am holy."
1Peter 1:
 

Waggles

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13 Go in through the narrow gate, for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many there are
who go in through it.

14 Because narrow is the gate and constricted is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.

18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruits, nor can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that does not bring forth good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
Matthew 7:

 

jameen

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I never disagree that same sex relationship is abomination to God.

but remember that God judges you justly through your heart.

you can go to the gay wedding if your heart says that it is abomination and the reason you attended it is because you received 1000 to 10 000 US dollars because I am desperate to earn money to feed my family.

and it is not a crime so you are not violating Apostle Peter's commandment to follow all ordinances of men.