Wow that's very kind of you do you also think they should join the circus?
I think you're reading into my post things which aren't there.
God doesn't make mistakes, these people are a reminder to use that just because we have one looking bit that doesn't define our humanity. Perhaps he does this so that people gain self awareness and learn that other people are still people too, who deserve every respect we give to everyone else.
Are you suggesting that God
causes some people to be born intersex? Does He also cause some people to be born cripples or spastics? What about still birth? Is He behind that as well?
Our morality has gotten much better because too we don't own slaves so I think that in time people will see how homophobia is an illogical position to have too.
You ought not to use such loaded language. It only hinders dialogue.
Also you shouldn't say God doesn't like it, you don't know Gods heart
And I suppose you do know God's heart? If it's true that no one knows God's laws regarding sexual ethics, then by what authority do you proclaim that there is nothing wrong or disordered about homosexuality or contraception?
But the truth is, God has revealed Himself to us. We cannot know everything about God, since we are only finite creatures, but He has made ways by which we can know Him and His truth, for example, there is direct revelation such as the Holy Scriptures. There is also our faculty of reason, by which we can deduce moral laws.
take ownership of your own hate
More loaded language.
because putting it on God who is the source of all good
Of course I agree that God is the source of all good. But I'm not the one suggesting that physical and mental disabilities are normal and that God specifically intended some people to be that way.
there is no room for hate.
Seriously, how are you expecting me to respond to this? Do you think I'm going to disagree with you and say that there is room for hate?
No I don't think guys at all would be ok for other people to chose what they can have done to their own bodies.
But we're not talking about arbitrary things people may choose to do with their bodies. We're talking about moral laws which are of God and therefore transcend and trump an individual's right to do as he sees fit, even if it does only affect his body. It matters not one jot whether the person it affects is 'ok' with it. For instance, I will unashamedly state that suicide, self harm and masturbation are wrong.
So yes is it a valid argument to show the flip side of the coin so that you can at least get an understanding of what it's like to have someone take your ability to have control over your own body away would feel like.
Your argument only works if morality is essentially unknowable. I reject that premise, (and so do you, incidently, or we wouldn't even be able to have this discussion).
So unless you have a uterus yourself all opinions you have on it let's just say as politely as I can it's not your place to decide or to make laws governing choices in another person's body.
I'm not making any laws. I am simply articulating my understanding of morality regarding what people ought and ought not to do with their bodies. Once again, a person need not have specific experience of a given situation (eg. having female/male sex organs) to make a moral judgement relating to it. Is this concept difficult to understand, or do you just reject it?
There for your opinion is invalid
Because you say so?
just like mine would be on when guys need to have ordered castration.
No, it wouldn't be. Again, you have every right to make a moral judgement about things which don't affect you (and being rational creatures with knowledge of morality, it's almost impossible not to).
I hope you understand that, if you don't I pray you never have daughters.
And I'll pray that you overcome your patronising and condescending attitude.
When you have sex it releases Oxycontin which is essential for pair bonding. Also there are studies that show if you don't have a healthy life in that way it shortens your life because the positive neurotransmitters that you get from it, and the cardio can also be a form of exorcise. That too and "conception" isn't really too good if you have aids. That's why you have to be smart about things with proper education. Too and that cycle thing doesn't work especially if the woman is irregular and kids shouldn't be an oops. That's what we call being a responsible member of society especially with the population we have we can't afford to have too much gain unless you want everyone to just use up the earths resources and then die of hunger. Wouldn't God look not so happy seeing us waste the only place he gave us to live? That's like throwing it back up in his face which isn't polite to do when your given a gift.
So...no, one cannot be truly open to conception whilst wearing a condom. You could have saved yourself typing out a paragraph.
I see a lot of what you say as hateful or misinformed this is an honest question that needs to be asked and not answered by you saying well God wouldn't do that.
Earlier I asked you:
Perhaps you're misinterpreting certain things as hateful when the intention behind the comments was far from it?
I think you would do well to consider it.
If the reverse was considered the norm and being heterosexual was considered against the natural law, read back the things you've said replacing heterosexual with gay and gay with heterosexual then tell me honestly would your be ok with what you said? I want you to walk a mile in another persons shoes.
How about we miss that step and I just come clean and tell you that I am a sexual deviant? True, I'm not homosexual, but I was deadly serious when I told you that the things I am saying also have strong implications in my own life.