Gay Christian?

biggiestomp · Nov 5, 2013

But look whats being stated, "Gay Christian." Do you hear people saying murdering Christian or fornicating Christian? Yes, sin is sin. But should i label myself as a "Drug Addict Christian" after the Lord has saved me from that lifestyle? I don't believe anyone would or should be saying God would not except any of these people. Gay Christian, Murdering Christian, Fornicating Christian or what ever sin we could label our self as. I'm a "Saved Christian." I hope to not be identified by my sinful nature.

ThomistColin · Nov 5, 2013

biggiestomp said:

Many Addicts do admit that it is now part of them, a thorn that will never disappear by their own power. When we say that we are a "Gay Christian" what we are saying is, "This is a warning. This is the hell I live with, the temptations that I bear, the fear that dogs my steps. And I trust in the Lord to protect me." It is an admittance of a problem. At least we admit there is a problem.

TeeMee · Nov 5, 2013

godsbluesman said:

I'm gay and you totally just changed my entire perspective.

Lol jks you didn't. I am gay, I have a boyfriend, and I believe God loves me just as much as he loves you. Despite your bigoted flaws. And furthermore I believe a relationship with God is personal and not subject to other peoples views or beliefs. So in short is it immoral? No one is being hurt, so I think no. God has no beef with it.

So I am happy. If I was to take the bible literally I would have to put to death everyone who works on the Sabbath
Exodus 35:2, Here's one that's really important cause we've got a lot of sports fans in this town: touching the skin of a dead pig makes one unclean. Leviticus 11:7, should we ban football?

Does the whole town really have to be together to stone my farmer uncle, for planting different crops side by side? Can I burn my mother in a small family gathering for wearing garments made from two different threads?

My point is it is ridiculous to take a literal interoperation on these things. It important to live a good life, being gay doesn't hurt anyone so in my mind, in my life, with my boyfriend with my God it is okay.

Kia123 · Nov 5, 2013

TeeMee said:

I'm gay and you totally just changed my entire perspective.

Lol jks you didn't. I am gay, I have a boyfriend, and I believe God loves me just as much as he loves you. Despite your bigoted flaws. And furthermore I believe a relationship with God is personal and not subject to other peoples views or beliefs. So in short is it immoral? No one is being hurt, so I think no. God has no beef with it.

So I am happy. If I was to take the bible literally I would have to put to death everyone who works on the Sabbath
Exodus 35:2, Here's one that's really important cause we've got a lot of sports fans in this town: touching the skin of a dead pig makes one unclean. Leviticus 11:7, should we ban football?

Does the whole town really have to be together to stone my farmer uncle, for planting different crops side by side? Can I burn my mother in a small family gathering for wearing garments made from two different threads?

My point is it is ridiculous to take a literal interoperation on these things. It important to live a good life, being gay doesn't hurt anyone so in my mind, in my life, with my boyfriend with my God it is okay.

Im not pro or anti gay, im just anti judging

haha its amazing people say things as if its the first time you have heard that anti gay rant

How is being gay any worse then judging the gays themselves????

fellclaw01 · Nov 5, 2013

Too true. We should use religion as a tool to better ourselves and make our nature closer to God not inflict our interpretations of the bible on others.

jimmydiggs · Nov 5, 2013

TeeMee said:

I'm gay and you totally just changed my entire perspective.

Lol jks you didn't. I am gay, I have a boyfriend, and I believe God loves me just as much as he loves you. Despite your bigoted flaws. And furthermore I believe a relationship with God is personal and not subject to other peoples views or beliefs. So in short is it immoral? No one is being hurt, so I think no. God has no beef with it.

So I am happy. If I was to take the bible literally I would have to put to death everyone who works on the Sabbath
Exodus 35:2, Here's one that's really important cause we've got a lot of sports fans in this town: touching the skin of a dead pig makes one unclean. Leviticus 11:7, should we ban football?

Does the whole town really have to be together to stone my farmer uncle, for planting different crops side by side? Can I burn my mother in a small family gathering for wearing garments made from two different threads?

My point is it is ridiculous to take a literal interoperation on these things. It important to live a good life, being gay doesn't hurt anyone so in my mind, in my life, with my boyfriend with my God it is okay.

You have proven you know not God, and know not scripture.

jimmydiggs · Nov 5, 2013

fellclaw01 said:

Christians are not to celebrate things that God hates.

Kia123 · Nov 5, 2013

jimmydiggs said:

Correct, however it is not our place to condemn !!

Bravewolfd · Nov 5, 2013

I have a question. Do you think being gay is ok if you love the same gender rather than lust them?

ChosenbyHim · Nov 5, 2013

TeeMee said:

Sodomy is not only immoral but it is a wicked abomination in the sight of God.

Leviticus 18:22-23 KJV
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. [23] Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.

You need to repent tee, and truly get saved. Before it is too late. Because there is a possibility of you being given over to a reprobate mind.

Romans 1:21-32 KJV
Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. [22] Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, [23] And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. [24] Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: [25] Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. [26] For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: [27] And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. [28] And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; [29] Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, [30] Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, [31] Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: [32] Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11 KJV
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, [10] Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. [11] And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

There is no such thing as a sodomite who is a Christian.

And you need to take the Bible literally. The Bible as a whole is to be read literally. Another thing, Christians are to study the Bible dispensationally also by rightly dividing it (2 Timothy 2:15). The Levitical Law has been done away with (Colossians 2:14). Therefore today, we are not under the Mosaic and Levitical Law.

Today, every creature of God is good and is to be received with thanksgiving and prayer:

1 Timothy 4:3-5 KJV
Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. [4] For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: [5] For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

Furthermore, the Sabbath was a part of the Mosaic Law and Covenant and it was given as a Sign for Israel (Ezekiel 20:19-20). Christians, therefore, are not required to keep the Sabbath. Because again, the Sabbath is a sign to Israel.

Colossians 2:16-17 KJV
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days : [17] Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

Rockbysea · Nov 5, 2013

One can be a practicing homosexual (gay) Christian but one cannot be a practicing homosexual and be born of God. “Christian” is merely a label invented by men that anyone can wear. Being born of God is within the inner person who is not known by labels but by their fruit and homosexuality is not one of those fruits.

TeeMee · Nov 6, 2013

So than why if we take the bible literally do we not put to death everyone who works on the Sabbath
Exodus 35:2, and touching the skin of a dead pig makes one unclean,Leviticus 11:7 so than why do we let our children play football? Should they too repent?

TeeMee · Nov 6, 2013

I have proven I believe in a loving God, and you have proven you believe in a hateful condemning God. Give me one good reason why God would be against homosexuals?

*The bible isn't a reason.

TeeMee · Nov 6, 2013

Bravewolfd said:

what a profoundly stupid question. There is just as much lust in the homosexual community as there is in the hetersexual community. I disagree whole heartedly with you all.

I am a practicing Christian, and I am a practicing gay. That is it. God loves me and does't think i'm a sinner. He spoke to me in a dream. He said that his word has been misinterpreted.

adsd · Nov 6, 2013

I would like to write a list of my sins just for today. maybe not enough room if I really detail from the time I opened my eyes to now.I have committed them before asked forgiveness. then catch myself doing it again. jumping to conclusions is one. thinking I know the right answer, sometimes my temper flares I know that is equal to murder, sadly I still do it. Jesus died for me he knows I will never get it all right all the time. 1 sin makes you a sinner even if you manage to be without in other areas. I can't seem to do it.

GBrowning · Nov 6, 2013

Matthew 7:22-23 Many will say to Me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name? And then I will declare to them, I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness"!

Hebrews 10:26 For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a fearful expectation of judgment, and a fury of fire that will consume the adversaries. 28. Anyone who sets aside the law of Moses dies without mercy on the evidence of two or three witnesses. 29 How much worse punishment, do you think, will be deserved by the one who has trampled underfoot the Son of God, and has profaned the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has outraged the Spirit of grace?

IT does NOT matter wether you are gay or straight, any sex outside of marraige is a sin against Adultry command and sin of the flesh. Sodom and Gomorah was destroyed due to the sexual immorals of the two cities and is where we get the word Sodomy.

Jesus said if you LOVE ME KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS, and he said "If you want to enter life, OBEY MY COMMANDMENTS" Matthew 19:17.

[h=3] Galatians 5:16 But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh.
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[h=3] Galatians 5:19-21 Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
[/h]John 8:34 Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin.

James 2:19 You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder! 20 Do you want to be shown, you foolish person, that faith apart from works is useless?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up his son Isaac on the altar?
22 See how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?;
23 and the Scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”—and he was called a friend of God.
24 You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.
Basically James is saying faith and works are married and one is useless without the other. Works are a natural result of Faith, and Faith produces works naturally, and one without the other is death.

1 John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
7 Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.

1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

TeeMee · Nov 6, 2013

GBrowning said:

Matthew 7:22-23 Many will say to Me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name? And then I will declare to them, I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness"!

Hebrews 10:26 For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a fearful expectation of judgment, and a fury of fire that will consume the adversaries. 28. Anyone who sets aside the law of Moses dies without mercy on the evidence of two or three witnesses. 29 How much worse punishment, do you think, will be deserved by the one who has trampled underfoot the Son of God, and has profaned the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has outraged the Spirit of grace?

IT does NOT matter wether you are gay or straight, any sex outside of marraige is a sin against Adultry command and sin of the flesh. Sodom and Gomorah was destroyed due to the sexual immorals of the two cities and is where we get the word Sodomy.

Jesus said if you LOVE ME KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS, and he said "If you want to enter life, OBEY MY COMMANDMENTS" Matthew 19:17.

Galatians 5:16 But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh.

Galatians 5:19-21 Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

John 8:34 Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin.

James 2:19 You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder! 20 Do you want to be shown, you foolish person, that faith apart from works is useless?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up his son Isaac on the altar?
22 See how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?;
23 and the Scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”—and he was called a friend of God.
24 You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.
Basically James is saying faith and works are married and one is useless without the other. Works are a natural result of Faith, and Faith produces works naturally, and one without the other is death.

1 John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
7 Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.

1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

cool story.. tell it again

fellclaw01 · Nov 6, 2013

At what point did I celebrate things that god hates. I'm saying that we should focus on our own challenges. God did not place the burden of being gay on me but I have sinned extensively because of my weakness. I live in an absolute mountain of sin And prefer to spend my effort in fixing that. I and don't celebrate that- I pray for forgiveness

Why comment on someone else's burdens - to isolate, ostracize and torment with your words. I specifically used the word inflict as that's what we do when we pursue commenting on gay rights when we don't believe their community should exists

But I'm here to learn as well so here's the question. I don't know much about scripture at all. I know more about the historic development of the bible from a secular level and bible studies in my early years and have only just recently started to turn to God again

So quoting scripture explain to me how I should treat gay people
1) in general
2) when they ask for help
3) when they talk about thier rights as gay people

TeeMee · Nov 6, 2013

I don't find being gay a burden. I celebrate it and celebrate God by celebrating. Irrespective of what some of the many contradictory quotes in the 'all knowing' bible may say...

starfield · Nov 6, 2013

TeeMee said:

You can't be a practicing homosexual and a practicing Christian at the same time. Homosexuality is a sin against God so the dream you received isn't from Him. An entire nation was destroyed because of this wickedness.

Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Romans 1:26-27
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

1 Timothy 1:9-10
9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

Jude 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

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