Gay Christian?

[Magenta]

What is with the fruit sudhakar

I am wondering what you are asking here? Adam and Eve ate of the forbidden tree, believing the lie the serpent told Eve, that they would not die. However, it was required to eat from the Tree of Life in order to attain to life ever after. Following their disobedience, the Tree of Life was barred to them, and they were put out of the garden. God's redemptive plan through Jesus Christ was alluded to at this point, though it would be quite some time before Jesus incarnated and willingly gave His life in fulfillment of hundreds of Scriptures concerning Him

 

[Jesus_Leads]

I am wondering what you are asking here? Adam and Eve ate of the forbidden tree, believing the lie the serpent told Eve, that they would not die. However, it was required to eat from the Tree of Life in order to attain to life ever after. Following their disobedience, the Tree of Life was barred to them, and they were put out of the garden. God's redemptive plan through Jesus Christ was alluded to at this point, though it would be quite some time before Jesus incarnated and willingly gave His life in fulfillment of hundreds of Scriptures concerning Him

Hai magenta, I know the fruit but our sudakar has been posting the same thing in few threads fruit, fruit, fruit. That's the reason I asked him what's with the fruit

 

[Magenta]

Hai magenta, I know the fruit but our sudakar has been posting the same thing in few threads fruit, fruit, fruit. That's the reason I asked him what's with the fruit

I see... sounds a little fruity! LOL. No pun intended

 

[Jesus_Leads]

I see... sounds a little fruity! LOL. No pun intended

I saw what you did there, good one

 

[Sudakar]

What is with the fruit sudhakar

Didn't God forbid choosing the knowledge of good & evil? Genesis 2:17:"But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die". Why?

 

[Amanuensis]

This passage of scripture (Romans 1:24-28) uses homosexual sin as the example (of all other types of sins) of a depraved mind.

Therefore a Christian will agree with this scripture and think accordingly.

A Christian will not allow the popular indoctrination of homosexuals in public schools to cause them to rebel against a holy God and call darkness light.

Those that do teach children that it is ok to sin like this, or teach them that it is NOT a sin and that people are not interpreting the bible correctly will be judged severely.

Jesus said it would be better to have a millstone tied around your neck and be cast into the sea than to lead one of these children into sin, and they are doing it everyday as if they are doing a good thing.

I shudder at the judgment that will come upon them very soon.

Romans 1
24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

28Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done.

Remember Sodom and Gomorrah. It was an example. More is coming.

 

[JStates]

Didn't God forbid choosing the knowledge of good & evil? Genesis 2:17:"But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die". Why?

As I commented on your profile... we aren't talking about "head knowledge" of good and evil. We are talking EXPERIENTIAL knowledge of good and evil. Adam and Eve became evil (sin nature) when they ate that fruit.

 

[Sudakar]

As I commented on your profile... we aren't talking about "head knowledge" of good and evil. We are talking EXPERIENTIAL knowledge of good and evil. Adam and Eve became evil (sin nature) when they ate that fruit.

Didn't the forbidden knowledge of good & evil accuse their act of being unclothed in God's most holy presence is sinful?
Genesis 3:11:"And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?"

 

[JStates]

Didn't the forbidden knowledge of good & evil accuse their act of being unclothed in God's most holy presence is sinful?
Genesis 3:11:"And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?"

Being naked in God's presence wasn't sinful when Adam and Eve had no sin nature. I'm not sure it was a sin after they ate the fruit either. But they were feeling SHAME because of their newfound CONDITION, their sin nature.

People read a lot into the Genesis account that the Scriptures don't specifically say.

God made Adam and Eve naked. He made the animals naked too. It's not like they had anything He hadn't seen before. And they were husband and wife, so their nudity in front of each other was not a cause for shame. What seems to be happening is that their conscience - laden with guilt and mistuned by their sin natures - was accusing them before God.

In that sense their nudity became a symbol of their sin and guilt.

 

[Sudakar]

Being naked in God's presence wasn't sinful when Adam and Eve had no sin nature. I'm not sure it was a sin after they ate the fruit either. But they were feeling SHAME because of their newfound CONDITION, their sin nature.

People read a lot into the Genesis account that the Scriptures don't specifically say.

God made Adam and Eve naked. He made the animals naked too. It's not like they had anything He hadn't seen before. And they were husband and wife, so their nudity in front of each other was not a cause for shame. What seems to be happening is that their conscience - laden with guilt and mistuned by their sin natures - was accusing them before God.

In that sense their nudity became a symbol of their sin and guilt.

How & when did they acquire the sin nature?

Are you seeking to be justified before God and humans by fulfilling the moral law?

 

[Magenta]

Didn't the forbidden knowledge of good & evil accuse their act of being unclothed in God's most holy presence is sinful?

No. They simply did not have God's covering any more, and realized it.

 

[Sudakar]

No. They simply did not have God's covering any more, and realized it.

Doesn't God say the forbidden knowledge of good & evil accused their unclothed act as evil in Genesis 3: 11: "And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?"

 

[JStates]

How & when did they acquire the sin nature?

Are you seeking to be justified before God and humans by fulfilling the moral law?

I think my post answered your first question. The sin nature was acquired when Adam and Eve disobeyed and ate the forbidden fruit.

As to your second... I really don't care about being justified before humans at all. I AM justified before God through Jesus Christ, God in flesh, who died to purge my sins.

 

[Magenta]

Doesn't God say the forbidden knowledge of good & evil accused their unclothed act as evil in Genesis 3: 11: "And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?"

Where is the word evil in relation to their nakedness? The evil was their
disobedience. They chose their way above God's, and lost HIS covering.

 

[Jesus_Leads]

Where is the word evil in relation to their nakedness? The evil was their
disobedience. They chose their way above God's, and lost HIS covering.

Magenta this is the fruit guy that we talked about before.

 

[Sudakar]

Where is the word evil in relation to their nakedness? The evil was their
disobedience. They chose their way above God's, and lost HIS covering.

If the forbidden knowledge of good & evil had not produced guilt about their act of being unclothed, why would they flee from God's most holy presence in order to be dressed?

 

[Sudakar]

I think my post answered your first question. The sin nature was acquired when Adam and Eve disobeyed and ate the forbidden fruit.

As to your second... I really don't care about being justified before humans at all. I AM justified before God through Jesus Christ, God in flesh, who died to purge my sins.

If you are justified by the blood of Jesus before God, why do you need the forbidden knowledge of good & evil?

 

[Jesus_Leads]

If the forbidden knowledge of good & evil had not produced guilt about their act of being unclothed, why would they flee from God's most holy presence in order to be dressed?

It's not about the fruit or knowledge from fruit. It's the disobedience that caused sin and all that follows it.

 

[Sudakar]

Magenta this is the fruit guy that we talked about before.

If you are justified before God by the blood of Jesus, why do you need the forbidden knowledge of good & evil anymore?

 

[Magenta]

If the forbidden knowledge of good & evil had not produced guilt about their act of being unclothed, why would they flee from God's most holy presence in order to be dressed?

They did not flee to dress themselves. They realized they had sinned and wanted to hide
from God. They sought a covering which was a poor substitute for the one they had just lost.