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wolfwint

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I dont want to create my own religion. I am not qualified to do so, nor is any person.
I dont want to be a savior. Jesus is, for many, the savior.

...I just want God to get out of my way in life and let me win, succeed, and build a life for myself.
Dear Funrider, then you should consider: if you not belong to God then you belong to Satan! Do you realy want this? Many people believe not to belong to God makes them free, but this is an illousion. They are serving Satan and will end with Satan. Is for you wealth and fame for a few years more important then the eternaty with God?
Think about it!
 
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The universe has two roads to walk down

Domination and dictatorship or servant hood and love.

One kingdom believes is exalting individuals and order is brought by blind obedience or being blown apart, and other by people choosing to help each other and work together for the benefit of all.

In the world of domination you will always see the rich, the successful, those that dominate, and envy them.
In the world of servant hood all you see is people working, and you do not know who is the biggest servant and who is not.

The kingdom is about which of these two approaches to life you want to follow or believe in.
If you want domination and wealth you have to sell your soul because it is about use of power without care.

But in reality real wealth and power is controlled by those who serve, because it is the common consensus that work, not the individual.

Funrider has failed to recognise this reality but has envy for the role of domination.
 

tjogs

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...I just want God to get out of my way in life and let me win, succeed, and build a life for myself.
You asked a proof so I do the same (if for nothing else than curiosity):

What is the worth of life? (specially yours since we are talking about your life)
 

blue_ladybug

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#45
I thought you said you were done with this thread? I wish you had kept to that, blue. I'm really disappointed in your attitude here.

Seriously?! You're disappointed in MY attitude here? The OP's attitude is much worse than mine.. At least I don't commit blasphemy when I talk about God. I don't wiffle waffle and say I love him, while in the same breath say that I'd trade him for money, fame and fortune. Everything I've said in my posts here are true: he IS blasphemous, he IS greedy and selfish, he IS headed towards hell, he IS spiritually blind, and he IS a troll. Oh and btw, I'll post anywhere I want to, thanks. Nobody tells me where I can and cannot post..
 
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kaylagrl

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#46
In general...in my life.

I am beginning to see...some people are better off than others. Different money levels...different friends, different reputations, different levels of success...

And do you know what else?

The fact that God seems to be useless in affecting any of it.

Folks, I tried, I really have tried.
But I'm sick and tired of it.

I am THIS CLOSE...THIS...CLOSE (Picture a human hair's width), to rejecting Jesus.
The ONLY THING holding me steady...is the hope I can have a future with him.

Listen folks, I dont give a flying rip about the crucifix or his death.
I accepted him genuinely 7 years ago. NOTHING CAME OF IT.

I'm waiting on other blessings to have been manifested. NOTHING CAME OF IT.

I'm sick and tired of reading the bible, and being dissapointed.

I'm sick and tired of all of you, and your blind faith in a God that doesn't care for your and your family.

I'm writing this...to identify if ANY OF YOU can give me proof God is good. I'm at my wits end right now.

Right now, I am considering the occult, and freemasonry. I dont care for God's love. I want money, power, fame. God's love isn't helping me pay the bills. God's love isn't important to me.

At this point in the game, I genuinely hate Jesus. I think he wasted his time dying on the cross, and it did nothing to bring me peace and joy.

Here's your chance to sell me on why Jesus is worth a damn.
Begin:

Quote "I'm writing this...to identify if ANY OF YOU can give me proof God is good"

You're writing this,so you're alive and breathing. Courtesy,God.


Quote " I want money, power, fame. "

Ever hear of Howard Hughes?


Quote " I think he wasted his time dying on the cross, and it did nothing to bring me peace and joy."

You said you wanted power and fame. God isn't a cosmic Santa Claus.
 
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kaylagrl

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#47
For what it's worth, Tintin, I truly appreciate your post. If I may be completely honest with you, even after I decide I've had enough of the walk, I come back..."If I dont have Christ, I have nothing".

Yet, I often feel, if I have Christ, he holds me back from getting everything.

I'll also be honest...I didn't know what the word Pragmatism...or the concept of being Pragmatic meant...then I now also realize...I came to Jesus in the light of Pragmatism...an applicable process where I can work through Jesus' example to better my life.

If Pragmatism isn't the truth, the way, the life...I honestly must reconsider why I even entertained Jesus in the first place. Perhaps I sought the wrong solution.

For the rest of you...money, power, fame matter more to me than Jesus. I truthfully believe Jesus Christ is the son of God, our LORD and heavenly father, who came to us to offer himself as sacrifice for our sinful nature, and that he died, and that I believe, as do you, that he was RISEN FROM THE DEAD in three days, nullified the power of death, and ascended into heaven, as we await his second coming.

The thing is...I really dont care. This: $$$$$$$$$ ...is what I care about.
If Jesus cant bring me $$$$$$, I will find another way, without denying his truth.


The rich young ruler...

Mark 10... Looking at him, Jesus felt a love for him and said to him, “One thing you lack: go and sell all you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.” 22 But at these words [a]he was saddened, and he went away grieving, for he was one who owned much property.23 And Jesus, looking around, *said to His disciples, “How hard it will be for those who are wealthy to enter the kingdom of God!” 24 The disciples were amazed at His words. But Jesus *answered again and *said to them, “Children, how hard it is to enter the kingdom of God! 25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”


I have a friend who's son was a writer for an award winning sitcom. His son lives in Hollywood and he's been there to visit.He said they are some of the most empty,lost,lonely people he's ever met.You're young and entitled. Read Ecclesiates and Solomans wisdom about life. What you want so badly will leave you more empty than you feel right now. Learn from those who have gone before you.
 
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kaylagrl

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#48
God doesn't know jack squat of what I, or any other person wants. I have a dream. A dream to unite many people towards a right way of living...where no tyrannical God takes away from them, makes them suffer, or tricks them with scripture.

I have a dream where I can put smiles on people's faces, wipe away their suffering, be a GENUINE friend and leader, and be a provider of good things to those who hurt in pain. I have a dream where I can liberate the just and the righteous in life from the oppression of tyrants and monsters, and where they can place their faith in someone who will not leave them betrayed and suffering (Like God does all the time).

I have a dream where I can teach people how to live successfully, manage their money and assets to multiply their income and use it to benefit humanity (something God YHWH the father FAILS AT EVERY WAKING MOMENT OF EXISTENCE). I have a dream where I can liberate people from their suffering, and allow them to live a happy life of achievement and signifigance, no matter their bodily condition, no matter their social class or upbrining, no matter their misfortune or lack of victory...

I have a dream that people can live a life of significance without being discriminated by a tyrannical God who gives to some, and cheats others. I have a dream that people can discover a Jesus who truly loves them, and just doesn't demand them to give up their RIGHT TO LIVE A LIFE OF DIGNITY AND RESPECT. I have a dream where I can provide a system for people to liberate themselves from poverty, struggle, and suffering, and where they can come to know a God that cares, instead of a God who withholds blessing.

I have a dream to ANSWER PEOPLE'S PRAYERS, AND HELP THE PEOPLE GOD LEFT FOR DEAD AND NEGLECTED. I have a dream to be the answer to a suffering person's prayers. I have a dream to prove God is real to people who doubt. I have a dream to fix the problems in people's lives GOD HAS REFUSED TO FIX, OR HELP OUT WITH.

I have a dream to be the answer to everyone's prayers. I have a dream to prove God is real, and not a jerk tyrant. I have a dream to put smiles on the faces of people who God has stolen from, and hurt, and cheated, and tricked, and deceived.

I want to bring blessing to people who never even knew they could, because GOD THE FATHER NEVER CARED TO BE A FRIEND IN THEIR LIVES.

Are you satisfied now, blind sheep?


Quote " I have a dream. A dream to unite many people towards a right way of living...where no tyrannical God takes away from them, makes them suffer, or tricks them with scripture."

So you're going to be your own god? Or have your own religion? Lets hope your followers arent as ungrateful as you are huh?



Quote "I have a dream where I can teach people how to live successfully, manage their money and assets to multiply their income and use it to benefit humanity (something God YHWH the father FAILS AT EVERY WAKING MOMENT OF EXISTENCE).

Speak for yourself. Many,many people have come before you and been successful and still followed Christ. From presidents to kings and even movie stars have followed Christ all without your help.God blesses us to give to others.

Quote "I have a dream that people can live a life of significance without being discriminated by a tyrannical God who gives to some, and cheats others."

So God cheats people.Has nothing to do with their own choices.Has nothing to do with evil men.Has nothing to do with selfish,self centered people? Its all on God. Pretty immature of you.

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to give up their RIGHT TO LIVE A LIFE OF DIGNITY AND RESPECT."

Wow,you need to live in some of these Muslim countries,countries with dictators.You think God is hard to serve?


Quote "Are you satisfied now, blind sheep?"

So let me get this straight.You're going to solve all the worlds problems,hunger,need, heal the sick give them joy and peace and take away all their hurt...humm that sounds like someone I know. Does someone have a god complex?

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Are you satisfied now, blind sheep?"

Yes,its clearly we who are blind. I think I'll trust the God who wrote the book thanks.
 
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kaylagrl

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#49
I dont want to create my own religion. I am not qualified to do so, nor is any person.
I dont want to be a savior. Jesus is, for many, the savior.

...I just want God to get out of my way in life and let me win, succeed, and build a life for myself.


God isn't in your way,you've got free will. Walk away. But its YOU who is in the way. When you grow up and see that I hope its not too late.
 

PennEd

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#50
God doesn't know jack squat of what I, or any other person wants. I have a dream. A dream to unite many people towards a right way of living...where no tyrannical God takes away from them, makes them suffer, or tricks them with scripture.

I have a dream where I can put smiles on people's faces, wipe away their suffering, be a GENUINE friend and leader, and be a provider of good things to those who hurt in pain. I have a dream where I can liberate the just and the righteous in life from the oppression of tyrants and monsters, and where they can place their faith in someone who will not leave them betrayed and suffering (Like God does all the time).

I have a dream where I can teach people how to live successfully, manage their money and assets to multiply their income and use it to benefit humanity (something God YHWH the father FAILS AT EVERY WAKING MOMENT OF EXISTENCE). I have a dream where I can liberate people from their suffering, and allow them to live a happy life of achievement and signifigance, no matter their bodily condition, no matter their social class or upbrining, no matter their misfortune or lack of victory...

I have a dream that people can live a life of significance without being discriminated by a tyrannical God who gives to some, and cheats others. I have a dream that people can discover a Jesus who truly loves them, and just doesn't demand them to give up their RIGHT TO LIVE A LIFE OF DIGNITY AND RESPECT. I have a dream where I can provide a system for people to liberate themselves from poverty, struggle, and suffering, and where they can come to know a God that cares, instead of a God who withholds blessing.

I have a dream to ANSWER PEOPLE'S PRAYERS, AND HELP THE PEOPLE GOD LEFT FOR DEAD AND NEGLECTED. I have a dream to be the answer to a suffering person's prayers. I have a dream to prove God is real to people who doubt. I have a dream to fix the problems in people's lives GOD HAS REFUSED TO FIX, OR HELP OUT WITH.

I have a dream to be the answer to everyone's prayers. I have a dream to prove God is real, and not a jerk tyrant. I have a dream to put smiles on the faces of people who God has stolen from, and hurt, and cheated, and tricked, and deceived.

I want to bring blessing to people who never even knew they could, because GOD THE FATHER NEVER CARED TO BE A FRIEND IN THEIR LIVES.

Are you satisfied now, blind sheep?
This sounds suspiciously like this:

How you are fallen from heaven,
O Lucifer,[SUP][a][/SUP] son of the morning!
How you are cut down to the ground,
You who weakened the nations!
[SUP]13 [/SUP]For you have said in your heart:
‘I will ascend into heaven,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;
I will also sit on the mount of the congregation
On the farthest sides of the north;
[SUP]14 [/SUP]I will ascend above the heights of the clouds,
I will be like the Most High.’
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol,
To the lowest depths of the Pit.


Mix in a little of Lennon's "Imagine" and you have our poster.
 

jsr1221

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Contrary to some peoples belief, this is NOT Jesus


It's funny that's how I realized I actually used to think of Jesus as.. Key words "used to". I thought praying would fix everything then and there because I have heard stories of it doing so for others.