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the problem is that the word religion is out of fashion. I am not ashamed to be religious! Only because I live what I say and I do have that personal relationship. I think the reason it has gone out of fashion is because people see religion as something like the "normal" church that you just attend rather than one of these new ones like hillsong or newpope. The new ones are in fashion (not in a superficial bad way, just a fact)
R
The Love I have for God is not an emotion. Men have defined their own love, which is not the love of God.
Not at all. This love is consuming. It reaches to my soul and spirit, and to my bones. It is life, or like wells and springs of water in a desert.
I cannot put into words the love of God, but I see that love when I think of Jesus Christ who hung on that cross for me, to redeem my soul from hell.
May Jesus bless you.
Not at all. This love is consuming. It reaches to my soul and spirit, and to my bones. It is life, or like wells and springs of water in a desert.
I cannot put into words the love of God, but I see that love when I think of Jesus Christ who hung on that cross for me, to redeem my soul from hell.
May Jesus bless you.
R
My friend, all things come from God, even men who do wickedly, but wickedness does not.
When I said that emotions have nothing to do with God, that was to say that his messages don't try to win your emotions, but your heart and your soul, and to reach to your spirit, and THAT is what makes the emotions come, because our flesh was built to respond in certain ways.
But there are those who use emotions as a way to trap people. They have perfected the appeal of emotions and fool people who are weak emotionally. They give happy gospels that don't save, and people praise God for the lies.
There is a difference between how God saves and how religious men fool the emotions.
That crying that Jesus did came out of his Spirit, by the Spirit of God. In the same way, God works GODLY sorrow. So if there is a Godly sorrow, there is also an ungodly sorrow.
May Jesus bless you.
When I said that emotions have nothing to do with God, that was to say that his messages don't try to win your emotions, but your heart and your soul, and to reach to your spirit, and THAT is what makes the emotions come, because our flesh was built to respond in certain ways.
But there are those who use emotions as a way to trap people. They have perfected the appeal of emotions and fool people who are weak emotionally. They give happy gospels that don't save, and people praise God for the lies.
There is a difference between how God saves and how religious men fool the emotions.
That crying that Jesus did came out of his Spirit, by the Spirit of God. In the same way, God works GODLY sorrow. So if there is a Godly sorrow, there is also an ungodly sorrow.
May Jesus bless you.
R
Totally agree with this.
Even Christians can be subject to manipulation. Actually, I would venture a guess and say we're even more susceptible to such things because we are already open to the possibility of something outside of ourselves influencing our actions... and we're fine with it.
To be honest, I am personally quite freaked out by rallies and revivals. Getting lots of people together for a common purpose can be a really great thing, but it can also be pretty dangerous. I can't tell you how many times I have seen kids 'saved' and 'filled with the spirit' at youth conventions... but the fire never lasts because it was never real to begin with. They were simply in a large arena with a bunch of other people who were worked up into a frenzy by the production. They thought their lives had been touched or changed when really they were just subject to psychological manipulation. They will come down off of that high because it's artificial.
I don't think it's always done deceitfully or with malice. A lot of it is just learned behavior. Like some preachers (you see this on tv a lot) preach with tones and patterns that will have the greatest effect on the people listening. That's what you want as a preacher, so it makes sense, and they probably learned how to do it from another charismatic preacher that changed their life. But I'm not sure they're really aware that they are artificially stirring people's emotions and artificially planting ideas. It's not always the holy spirit at work, sometimes it's just hypnosis.
Even Christians can be subject to manipulation. Actually, I would venture a guess and say we're even more susceptible to such things because we are already open to the possibility of something outside of ourselves influencing our actions... and we're fine with it.
To be honest, I am personally quite freaked out by rallies and revivals. Getting lots of people together for a common purpose can be a really great thing, but it can also be pretty dangerous. I can't tell you how many times I have seen kids 'saved' and 'filled with the spirit' at youth conventions... but the fire never lasts because it was never real to begin with. They were simply in a large arena with a bunch of other people who were worked up into a frenzy by the production. They thought their lives had been touched or changed when really they were just subject to psychological manipulation. They will come down off of that high because it's artificial.
I don't think it's always done deceitfully or with malice. A lot of it is just learned behavior. Like some preachers (you see this on tv a lot) preach with tones and patterns that will have the greatest effect on the people listening. That's what you want as a preacher, so it makes sense, and they probably learned how to do it from another charismatic preacher that changed their life. But I'm not sure they're really aware that they are artificially stirring people's emotions and artificially planting ideas. It's not always the holy spirit at work, sometimes it's just hypnosis.
R
May Jesus bless you raincorn. May I tell you about something that I have learned about this:
Remember Saul the King, how that even after the Lord had taken his Spirit away from him, one day he went down to seek David and the Holy Spirit fell on him and his servants also, and they prophesied naked, and people even said, ''Is Saul among the prophets also?''
And also how it was said that in the last days the Lord will pour out his Spirit on ALL FLESH!!?
And also how that even the High Priest who killed Jesus prophesied about Jesus Christ, saying that it was needful that one should die for Israel?
Strange huh? You see, the Holy Spirit could very well fall on everyone at a convention or a rally, but that might be temporary, as they have not received Jesus Christ into their own hearts, but were sort of in his presence, but his presence did not go with them.
It is sort of like the glory of God lingering like a cloud, but then you go out from under the cloud, you go out from under the glory. I don't know if that makes sense.
But also there are times when it is just mass hysteria. Now, I am very careful about what I judge, because what I think might be mass hysteria may actually be the Spirit of God working (I have given my testimony of several events where it was the Holy Spirit moving).
Like when I went to a concert, where many children were, and I knew the Lord was there, as I even asked him to show up. And a person in my area, a demon cried against it from them. It was a fearful thing if one did not know what was happening. But I praised the Lord!!
It was the most awesome thing to be in that place where MANY souls were, and the Holy Ghost was present to save MANY! Even to heal many!!
May Jesus bless you.
Remember Saul the King, how that even after the Lord had taken his Spirit away from him, one day he went down to seek David and the Holy Spirit fell on him and his servants also, and they prophesied naked, and people even said, ''Is Saul among the prophets also?''
And also how it was said that in the last days the Lord will pour out his Spirit on ALL FLESH!!?
And also how that even the High Priest who killed Jesus prophesied about Jesus Christ, saying that it was needful that one should die for Israel?
Strange huh? You see, the Holy Spirit could very well fall on everyone at a convention or a rally, but that might be temporary, as they have not received Jesus Christ into their own hearts, but were sort of in his presence, but his presence did not go with them.
It is sort of like the glory of God lingering like a cloud, but then you go out from under the cloud, you go out from under the glory. I don't know if that makes sense.
But also there are times when it is just mass hysteria. Now, I am very careful about what I judge, because what I think might be mass hysteria may actually be the Spirit of God working (I have given my testimony of several events where it was the Holy Spirit moving).
Like when I went to a concert, where many children were, and I knew the Lord was there, as I even asked him to show up. And a person in my area, a demon cried against it from them. It was a fearful thing if one did not know what was happening. But I praised the Lord!!
It was the most awesome thing to be in that place where MANY souls were, and the Holy Ghost was present to save MANY! Even to heal many!!
May Jesus bless you.
Ramon I think in this instance you are speaking rubbish. Here is one of the many reasons why...
Jesus said to him, “‘you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”
(Matthew 22:37 – 40)
I think you just say a lot and don't think about the words enough.
You need to read what you are about to say from an objective point of view. gby.
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Jesus said to him, “‘you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”
(Matthew 22:37 – 40)
I think you just say a lot and don't think about the words enough.
You need to read what you are about to say from an objective point of view. gby.
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Well To ur actual question Its perfectly fine if u spent time with God alone and Not go to church at all.. Cus What is Church actually? Its not a building where u have expensive Auditorium and amazing sound system and blah blah blah.. Early Churches were not like that.. They were more in small groups.. Also God is a personal God U can totally be in a relationship with God by being faithful and serving his people. Also Church is not the only place where u find evangelical Christians. May be its the place where u find Christians Easily but thats not the only place to find godly people. But remember one thing. The things u do and say should be from the Bible. If u can do that u actually dont really need to go to a Church. Church is for people who wants a recharge.. But if u feel like churches is stirring u up against God take a break and just do some seeking of ur own.. 
hope that helps
p.s : I myself go to church.. But My best friend who is an amazing Christian doesnt go to one.. Cause she doesnt believe in many doctrines that those church talks about.
hope that helpsp.s : I myself go to church.. But My best friend who is an amazing Christian doesnt go to one.. Cause she doesnt believe in many doctrines that those church talks about.
Religions were invented by man. Satan used religion as a way to distract the masses and stop them from having a personal relationship with God.
Born again Christianity is of God and is spiritual and real, not classed as a religion like all these others that spring up, like restaurants that appear all the time.
A bible church is important. Fellowship with other Christians is important - being around spiritual family, and you really feel amazing when all joining together each Sunday. It helps you to focus and grow, as you learn more about God with supportive people around you.
It's important to study the scriptures for yourself, and not rely on what someone tells you. Pastors are there for guidance but you should always read everything yourself.
Born again Christianity is of God and is spiritual and real, not classed as a religion like all these others that spring up, like restaurants that appear all the time.
A bible church is important. Fellowship with other Christians is important - being around spiritual family, and you really feel amazing when all joining together each Sunday. It helps you to focus and grow, as you learn more about God with supportive people around you.
It's important to study the scriptures for yourself, and not rely on what someone tells you. Pastors are there for guidance but you should always read everything yourself.
R
I think you may have missed the other post, three up.
''When I said that emotions have nothing to do with God, that was to say that his messages don't try to win your emotions, but your heart and your soul, and to reach to your spirit, and THAT is what makes the emotions come, because our flesh was built to respond in certain ways. '' -Ramon
May Jesus bless you.
''When I said that emotions have nothing to do with God, that was to say that his messages don't try to win your emotions, but your heart and your soul, and to reach to your spirit, and THAT is what makes the emotions come, because our flesh was built to respond in certain ways. '' -Ramon
May Jesus bless you.