Why Are Atheists Viewed So Negatively?

frankleespeaking · May 19, 2012

I'm afriad it all boils down to what the bible teaches about men who say "there is no God".... it plainly teaches that all of nature declares there is a designer, those who dispute this fact, the bible regards as "fools" which is why I would imagine not to many Christians would be inclined to hang out with athiest, as the bible also teaches " bad company corrupts good character" ......personally I have seen good people's faith destroyed by hanging out with athiest, its really quite sad, considering those of us who know beyond a shadow of a doubt that God does exist and the bible is true, they have lost something that was more valueable than life itself

Dude653 · May 19, 2012

That would be because most of them are trolls. Many of them claim to be here just to learn, but if you dont believe something, why waste even a second of your time learning about. Also, if you are just here out of curiuosity, then why do you feel the need to call attention to the fact that you are an atheist. They come into the chat with classic troll questions, such as....How can the Bible support this or that.....wht does God allow this or that....then they have the whole chat room catering to them are probably sitting back and laughing at our so called ''stupidity'' for believing in God....I dont knwo we even give them the attention they so desparately want. This another reason why I implore the mods to give us an ignore user option in the chat.

Snackersmom · May 19, 2012

HerrGeschichte said:

I love you honesty and courtesy (shakes Herr Geschichte's hand solemnly). Truly, thank you for that

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And, I hope I'm not metaphorically following you as you walk away here (hehe), but I just wanted to acknowledge that I understand why the concept of a God who loves us and wants to help us through life would be difficult for you to wrap your brain around, because you haven't experienced it. It only makes sense to those who accept His love. Until then, it just sounds cracked..........

Anyway, you seem like a really considerate guy, and quite intelligent. I can see why you would have a hard time accepting something that can't be seen, but please don't let that stop you from experiencing the amazing life that God wants to give you! It's not about Him controlling us, it's more about guidance. I can go my own way if I want, but it would be really stupid of me, because I've been kicking 'round the pea-patch long enough to know that His ways are perfect........... Mine? not so much.........

Anyways, Jesus loves you. Just sayin'

(stops herself from further chasing Herr Geschichte down the hall

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Dude653 · May 19, 2012

I could point out that within your belief system, Satan is at least a powerful demi-god, since God apparently isn't mighty enough to just get rid of him.

It is not that God is not powerful enough to get rid of Satan. It just not in His plan to do so, until He casts satan into the lake of fire as prophesied in the Bible...oh..and congtatulations on making the number 13 spot im my ignore bin...have a nice day

Dude653 · May 19, 2012

HerrGeschichte said:

Its not about control..You have free will. You choose to go to hell by rejecting God

HerrGeschichte · May 19, 2012

Dude653 said:

Then I will be warm

Strong1 · May 19, 2012

Humanista said:

Isn't it clear that the vast majority of people believe in God and these are the very people who are lying, cheating, stealing, etc. ? Every person you can point to with low morals, whether in your own acquaintences or those in the news..probably 99.99% of these people believe in God. Now, how many of you actually know an atheist? You say they must not have morals without God yet look at all the believers who are acting immorally!!
I am an atheist. I behave morally. What is interesting to me is that my god-believing husband cheated on me with two very religious god-believing women. I have never cheated on him. Who is more moral in this situation, atheist or Christian?

Wow. Shame shame shame.

PopClick · May 19, 2012

Snackersmom said:

Exactly. Without love as the reason behind it, "evangelizing" becomes some kind of game, and the "Good News" becomes some sort of bludgeon used to beat people over the head or make them uncomfortable. If you love someone, you will let THEM make this very important decision about how they live their lives and what they believe in. Love makes one stop short of trying to control someone.

HerrGeschichte said:

I've seen some amazing things in my life that have led me to be more than convinced of two things: God is very real. And He loves us humans like crazy. Every one of us.

However, the control issue goes back to my previous statement... love makes one stop short of controlling someone. I've been sitting here trying my very best to think of one single time when I felt like God had "controlled" anything in my life. I couldn't come up with one.

Being a human living on Earth or becoming a Christian doesn't mean you turn into some kind of puppet. For me, at least, becoming a Christian has meant that I have the most incredible flaming JOY... and I still, ultimately, make every single decision on how to live my life. If I tell other people about Jesus, I hope it's always done out of love... because I want few things more than for every other person to have what I have. This unexplainable peace, this unimaginable joy... and yes, until I had experienced it, it didn't make much sense to me, either. I thought those Christians were just making it up.

Anyways, love to each and every one of those atheists out there... and I do mean it. I think human beings deserve love and respect... even if you don't agree with them. Now THERE'S a shocker!

simplyme_bekah · May 19, 2012

I keep reading that you cant wrap your head around someone controlling your life....oh sweetie...you are surely being blinded by the devil because with God and with being Gods child he gives your soul the wings to soar so far above humanity and the norm. He takes your mind to places you could only ever dream about. He is freedom in the purest form. You come to want to serve him and you come to want to willingly do every single thing that you do for him for him. Feel me? Ask him the questions that you have and dont be surprised when he answers you because he will. He completes your soul. He simply becomes your everything because when you seek him with all of your heart and your mind you find him. He shares his wisdom and his knowledge with you. He shares his mysteries with you. He stretches your soul and your mind and your spirit in the most beautiful loving way ever. You learn to turn to him for every single thing in your life because he IS the answer to all of it. He becomes the very best friend that you could ever want or need. When the storm of life is raging around you he has you secure in his arms and he shares his peace and his joy and his happiness and his life that nothing of this world can touch. You come to know why you are here on this earth. You come to know a love that is way beyond what a human being could give to you. He is forever and always there with you through everything. When you turn to him, its simple he turns to you. Imagine the face of the creator looking down on you and giving you the attention your soul desires that you just cant find from a human being because you turned you face up to him seeking him. He completes you in every single way you could ever imagine. I personally have come to treat him like he is right next to me. Any time yuck feelings take over it sends me running to him in prayer. My mind has come to seek him first and foremost in everything. my best advice to you is ASK HIM to show you honey and he will. He sends a lot of unbelievers to me and the two very important words that I say to every single one of them is ASK HIM.

frankleespeaking · May 21, 2012

Strong1 said:

opps! posted this to the wrong message, it was for the one before yours sorry

what your missing is your god-believing husband and the religious god believing women he cheated on you with will find themselves with you on the same boat without a paddle in the end

rainacorn · May 22, 2012

Not to play the age card or anything, but your understanding of the God-follower relationship can be greatly skewed by limited experience. Who are the authorities in your life and how do they treat you? What is your opinion of them?

To keep bringing up control over and over as some sort of sticking point, I can imagine control being a big issue in your everyday life... either not enough of it, where you feel like a prisoner or way too much, where you're basically on your own.

People have explained this relationship and free will. If you're not hearing them or not understanding it, consider turning an eye inward. Human relationships do not always give us the best example since we are so terribly flawed.

aprilandkeion · May 22, 2012

ATHEIST is very close minded, as i have said in other topics their FAITH WAS LIMITED TO WHAT WAS COMMON, TO WHAT WAS NATURAL, TO WHAT WAS UNDERSTANDABLE AND TO WHAT WAS IMAGINABLE. In other words whay they have is KNOWLEDGE NOT FAITH.....they dont believe God omg just merely looking at the sky you will immediately think of that one great creator....

Tsalagi · May 22, 2012

I think atheists are discriminated against. I don't believe atheists are good or bad people based on their lack of belief in God alone. Religion cannot control a person's actions. It can influence them but God has gifted us all with free will. Atheists, just like Christians, can be good or bad people. My girlfriend is an atheist and volunteers with me all the time, even when the volunteer event is associated with a church. She doesn't smoke or curse or do drugs or steal and she's a virgin so it's not as if she doesn't believe in God simply because she "wants to do whatever she wants to." I think when people hear "atheist," they think "immoral person." Atheism is also associated with communism, which America views as bad and evil.

Bushido8000 · May 22, 2012

SisyphusFragment said:

Well for one, most atheists who are outwardly atheists are militant. Meaning that they often like to start conflict with religious people and are often disrespectful of them.

I think the reason why they aren't trusted is because they have no moral authority to abide by. Does this mean that atheists don't have morals? No of course not. But true Atheists don't believe that morals are objective unlike Christians/other religions. This means that if they were to steal from or murder someone, it wouldn't really be a bad or good thing, it would be neutral, since morals and right/wrong would be a man-made idea just like God supposedly would be.

HerrGeschichte · May 22, 2012

Bushido8000 said:

I'm sorry. I don't mean to prove you right, but I take great offense to this! I am an atheist, like I said above, and I have a rather strong moral code that I live by! Ask anyone that knows me on here, and you will know that I don't start fights! I don't steal from anyone, and if I did, and was sent to jail, I would probably agree with them! Same with murder! The only neutral feelings that I have is in what I eat!

Bushido8000 · May 22, 2012

HerrGeschichte said:

And what you are saying goes along with what I said. I was saying that MOST outwardly atheists are militant. Look up almost any forum (that isn't on a Christian site lol) and mention religion and see what happens. I wasn't saying you don't have any morals, but as an atheist you CHOOSE to have morals and believe in right/wrong for some reason. They aren't objective to you. This is proven by asking "why?" if I say cheating on a spouse is wrong most Christians go "well because God says so" if I ask you, you might say something along the lines of "well because it's not right to cheat on a spouse, then I ask you why, you give me an answer, and I ask you why and it keeps on going until you realize that your morals are nothing more than rules that for some reason or another you chose to live by and that there isn't objective good or bad, there is only neutral and your subjective perception of good/bad.

That's what I'm saying. At any time you could choose not to follow your rules without worrying about repercussion since you don't believe in God.

HerrGeschichte · May 22, 2012

Bushido8000 said:

And what you are saying goes along with what I said. I was saying that MOST outwardly atheists are militant. Look up almost any forum (that isn't on a Christian site lol) and mention religion and see what happens. I wasn't saying you don't have any morals, but as an atheist you CHOOSE to have morals and believe in right/wrong for some reason. They aren't objective to you. This is proven by asking "why?" if I say cheating on a spouse is wrong most Christians go "well because God says so" if I ask you, you might say something along the lines of "well because it's not right to cheat on a spouse, then I ask you why, you give me an answer, and I ask you why and it keeps on going until you realize that your morals are nothing more than rules that for some reason or another you chose to live by and that there isn't objective good or bad, there is only neutral and your subjective perception of good/bad.

That's what I'm saying. At any time you could choose not to follow your rules without worrying about repercussion since you don't believe in God.

A'ight. Guess I misread what you said. Sorry for the confusion

Tethered · May 22, 2012

On the flipside as a christian, if you struggle to live by a God given rule that seems wrong to you, you can't change it, so do you have to follow a seemingly immoral interpretation on the understanding that God knows better than you do?

Bushido8000 · May 22, 2012

HerrGeschichte said:

it's cool

Wesley · May 22, 2012

Bushido8000 said:

This is a misstatement of moral relativity, which merely states that the morality of a situation can vary with the circumstances.

Most people, of all faiths, accept some form of moral relativity.

For instance, is is accepted that generally speaking, killing is an evil thing, but that there is a moral difference between killing in order to protect one's own life, and killing wantonly. Murder is evil; self-defense changes murder into manslaughter, justifiable homicide, or even simple self-defense, and rightfully so.

If morals are absolute, then all moral agents must be measured against absolute standards. Anything else is an exercise in relativity.

Dude653 said:

Should a robber be able to plead innocent? "You Honor, she didn't have to give me the money. She chose to do so."

Never mind the gun pointed at his victim's head?

When one's soul is held for ransom, is the choice truly free?

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