200 Proofs Earth Is Not A Spinning Ball Videobook By Eric Dubay

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If the flat earth didn't matter you wouldn't be paying so much attention to the flat earth by posting in this flat earth topic. :cool:
So you believe the shape of the earth to be relevant to the matter of salvation?
 
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Pretty sure on the Last Day Christ won't be saying, " Depart from me, you who believed wrongly about the Earth's shape."


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thanks for taking the trouble to explain ricky, i appreciate it.

I have to say though, I think you and spherical both show evident signs of a massive case of confirmation bias.

you clearly see it in him but i see it in what you wrote to me as well. have you ever put yourself in spherical shoes? try to feel like him for a minute. anything anybody says reinforces his belief that the earth is flat. confirmation bias is evident in him. have you ever considered that you could be doing the same thing everytime you find yet another thing that confirm your belief?
 
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thanks for taking the trouble to explain ricky, i appreciate it.

I have to say though, I think you and spherical both show evident signs of a massive case of confirmation bias.

you clearly see it in him but i see it in what you wrote to me as well. have you ever put yourself in spherical shoes? try to feel like him for a minute. anything anybody says reinforces his belief that the earth is flat. confirmation bias is evident in him. have you ever considered that you could be doing the same thing everytime you find yet another thing that confirm your belief?

Sowing the seeds of doubt about Christianity. That is why you are here on CC!

A perfect example of the serpent questioning God's Word, "hath God said"
 

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If the flat earth didn't matter you wouldn't be paying so much attention to the flat earth by posting in this flat earth topic. :cool:
Couldn't care less whether it's flat or round. I do care for, and am a bit concerned about, you tho.

thanks for taking the trouble to explain ricky, i appreciate it.

I have to say though, I think you and spherical both show evident signs of a massive case of confirmation bias.

you clearly see it in him but i see it in what you wrote to me as well. have you ever put yourself in spherical shoes? try to feel like him for a minute. anything anybody says reinforces his belief that the earth is flat. confirmation bias is evident in him. have you ever considered that you could be doing the same thing everytime you find yet another thing that confirm your belief?
I get what you're getting at, and you pose a valid question, but they are different things. Spherical relies on YouTube videos and the work of others. He's never gone out and seen the world for himself. I have, on the other hand, gone out and seen the spiritual realm in action. I don't know what I know because some guy on a pulpit told me to. I know what I know because of what I have seen with my eyes and done with my hands. I've considered other religions, and atheism, but none of those explained what I have personally learned and experienced as well as the Word of God. Altho I'll give it to you, my understanding of it is often far removed from what is taught in church these days.

I'm on the road next 2 days. Hope that gives you something to consider.
 
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Couldn't care less whether it's flat or round. I do care for, and am a bit concerned about, you tho.



I get what you're getting at, and you pose a valid question, but they are different things. Spherical relies on YouTube videos and the work of others. He's never gone out and seen the world for himself. I have, on the other hand, gone out and seen the spiritual realm in action. I don't know what I know because some guy on a pulpit told me to. I know what I know because of what I have seen with my eyes and done with my hands. I've considered other religions, and atheism, but none of those explained what I have personally learned and experienced as well as the Word of God. Altho I'll give it to you, my understanding of it is often far removed from what is taught in church these days.

I'm on the road next 2 days. Hope that gives you something to consider.
If you didn't care you would have posted in this topic. ;)
 

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A GLOBE IS NOT A CIRCLE. IF YOU STUDY MATHEMATICS YOU WILL LEARN THAT A CIRCLE AND A GLOBE ARE NOT THE SAME.
previously addressed and thoroughly refuted by someone who actually has studied math.

a "circle" is purely 2-dimensional.

you are in fact describing a "disc" -- a three dimensional term - NOT a circle earth.
((so again, using Isaiah 40:22 to justify this is completely invalid))

the projection onto 2-dimensions of both a disc and a sphere is a circle.
this however is true of a disc ONLY from one perspective -- the 2-d projection of a disc from a perpendicular angle (looking from any side, not straight down) is a rectangle, NOT a circle. but the 2-d projection of a sphere from ANY direction is a circle.
in that respect, A SPHERE IS MORE CIRCULAR THAN A DISC.

 
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From Anchorage, Alaska at an elevation of 102 feet, on clear days Mount Foraker can be seen with the naked eye 120 miles away. If Earth were a ball 25,000 miles in circumference, Mount Foraker’s 17,400 summit should be leaning back away from the observer covered by 7,719 feet of curved Earth. In reality, however, the entire mountain can be quite easily seen standing straight from base to summit.
 
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From Anchorage, Alaska at an elevation of 102 feet, on clear days Mount McKinley can be seen with the naked eye from 130 miles away. If Earth were a ball 25,000 miles in circumference, Mount McKinley’s 20,320 foot summit should be leaning back away from the observer and almost half covered by 9,220 feet of curved Earth. In reality, however, the entire mountain can be quite easily seen standing straight from base to summit.
 
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In Chambers’ Journal, February 1895, a sailor near Mauritius in the Indian Ocean reported having seen a vessel which turned out to be an incredible 200 miles away! The incident caused much heated debate in nautical circles at the time, gaining further confirmation in Aden, Yemen where another witness reported seeing a missing Bombay steamer from 200 miles away. He correctly stated the precise appearance, location and direction of the steamer all later corroborated and confirmed correct by those onboard. Such sightings are absolutely inexplicable if the Earth were actually a ball 25,000 miles around, as ships 200 miles distant would have to fall approximately 5 miles below line of sight!
 
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The distance from which various lighthouse lights around the world are visible at sea far exceeds what could be found on a ball-Earth 25,000 miles in circumference. For example, the Dunkerque Light in southern France at an altitude of 194 feet is visible from a boat (10 feet above sea-level) 28 miles away. Spherical trigonometry dictates that if the Earth was a globe with the given curvature of 8 inches per mile squared, this light should be hidden 190 feet below the horizon.
 
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The distance from which various lighthouse lights around the world are visible at sea far exceeds what could be found on a ball-Earth 25,000 miles in circumference. For example, the Dunkerque Light in southern France at an altitude of 194 feet is visible from a boat (10 feet above sea-level) 28 miles away. Spherical trigonometry dictates that if the Earth was a globe with the given curvature of 8 inches per mile squared, this light should be hidden 190 feet below the horizon.
you know I like debating on things like this :) lol..

28 miles away and 8 inches drop in curvature can only be measured straight out in a straight line of sight not squared
so the drop over 28 miles away in a straight line from the light house base one would stand at the shore line from below the light house to the boat at sea level this drop would be 3 feet 4 inches I hardly can see a human eye seeing that drop over 28 miles.

If a person was in the light house 204 feet above sea level that's not a good measurement looking down at a object to determine the curvature of the earth at sea level.
 
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The Port Nicholson Light in New Zealand is 420 feet above sea-level and visible from 35 miles away where it should be 220 feet below the horizon.
 
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The Egerö Light in Norway is 154 feet above high-water and visible from 28 statute miles where it should be 230 feet below the horizon.
 
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The Light at Madras, on the Esplanade, is 132 feet high and visible from 28 miles away, where it should be 250 feet below the line of sight.
 
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The Cordonan Light on the west coast of France is 207 feet high and visible from 31 miles away, where it should be 280 feet below the line of sight.
 
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The light at Cape Bonavista, Newfoundland is 150 feet above sea-level and visible at 35 miles, where it should be 491 feet below the horizon.
 
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The lighthouse steeple of St. Botolph’s Parish Church in Boston is 290 feet tall and visible from over 40 miles away, where it should be hidden a full 800 feet below the horizon!
 
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The Isle of Wight lighthouse in England is 180 feet high and can be seen up to 42 miles away, a distance at which modern astronomers say the light should fall 996 feet below line of sight.
 
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