ALERT: THE VACCINE MIGHT BE THE MARK OF THE BEAST

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To think, we are almost a year into this pandemic. When will the plandemic come to an end. There so are many false positive results being given which results in the shedding of innocent blood and death not related covid are counted as covid19 death. If these reports were accurate we would be living our normal lives again. But these false positive infections has made innocent people to succumb to lies. Wave after wave. We are in 2nd wave and now they are talking about 3rd wave and fourth wave. Mutation of virus within such a short amount of time, in such small space of months. I absolutely don't believe the science. This science has been going in 360 degree circle, and caused more harm than just the lost of life. And now we have to deal with vaccines. It is obvious the media, will not attribute the vaccine to any of the causes for the deaths of the elderly and other healthy persons that took the inoculation. I heard of reports, that some health officials are afraid of taking the second dose because of the adverse effects they experienced from the frist dose. And these were from officials which were considered healthy. And the government won't admit that the experimental vaccines they have approve are actually dangerous and cannot go back on their word, because it has already been paid. Billions of dollars is spend on poison. There is no going back on it. It will be suicidal of the government to admit now they should continue with the lie.
Some estimates for the plague suggest it will last seven years before life as we knew it in 2019 returns to normal. We are one year into that period as of this writing.

Will it really last seven years? Some biological infestations take that long to be completely removed. It's not beyond reason to suggest that length of time for the world to recover.

Considering poor nations that don't have resources to combat the plague and considering fools in industrial nations that either refuse to cooperate with authorities or who delude themselves into believing it doesn't exist I'd be amazing if the plague would be that short.

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However you choose to interpret Bible Prophecy my main aim was to disprove your plain statement that the Papacy did not exist between the end of the eighteenth century and 1929
I could probably have used a number of other on line sources if I had the time and inclination but
I suspect you would put forward some other objections to them as well. Its pointless for me to continue this discussion with you.
As I wrote earlier, documentation of the Napoleonic period at the end of the 18th century is convoluted. As I wrote earlier, a NY Times writer who attempted to put together a history of that particular can of worms gave up and approached it from a different angle. It's really a mess to sort out.

Resorting to Wikipedia as the sole source of information isn't a good idea. It's a good place to get started, but it has its shortcomings. Ask any college professor! I did. I asked several when I was researching a different topic. They all say the same thing I just wrote.

Some documents suggest the French government set up their own pope, which would fulfill the need of some to create a line of succession of Catholic leaders - and deny the implications of the arrest and death of Pius VI. If a line of succession is all that's important to you, then that's all you'll see and that's all you'll be able to discern from history.

In truth, apostolic succession upon which Papal authority is based, was interrupted by the French. When they appointed their own puppet pope The line of succession established at the time of Constantine was temporarily broken. The head of the beast DID suffer a fatal wound! Technically the line of popes was interrupted, French politics notwithstanding.

The hand of God was involved in the events described. If the reader refuses to acknowledge that, then I pity you. The works of God are wonderful to behold. I'm glad I've been able to witness a few of them and to read about a few of them.

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See what they are not reporting. Then ask yourself why you are not hearing MUCH more about the devastation the vaccine is causing RIGHT NOW, let alone down the road:
https://vaxpain.us/
 
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See what they are not reporting. Then ask yourself why you are not hearing MUCH more about the devastation the vaccine is causing RIGHT NOW, let alone down the road:
https://vaxpain.us/
I have received both injections of the Pfizer COVID vaccine. In neither case did I experience anything other than minor soreness at the injection site.

I did not get a headache or body aches and pains.
I did not get a fever.
I did not suffer any ill effects at all.
I did not grow a forked tail - thanks be to God.


The Bible advises us to, "love your neighbor as yourself." This is the second commandment of God's Law.
It's not a suggestion or a rule of thumb. If you love God, you will love your neighbor.

Jesus said, "do unto others as you would have them do unto you." Who was this Jesus anyway? Is He some sort of religious icon that is only trotted out on holidays and sometimes on Sunday morning? Did He say what He meant and mean what He said - or are we just supposed to nod our empty heads and tell each other what a wonderful guy He was ... and then go about our merry way?

I WILL NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MY NEIGHBOR'S DEATH.

How clear does it have to get? Instead of acting like spoilt children or adult fools, shall we not follow our God and do right by ourselves and our neighbors? What has God said?

I got the shots. It didn't hurt and I don't need a lollypop after taking my medicine.

How about acting like adult Christians? How about doing the right thing for ourselves and our neighbors?

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I have received both injections of the Pfizer COVID vaccine. In neither case did I experience anything other than minor soreness at the injection site.

I did not get a headache or body aches and pains.
I did not get a fever.
I did not suffer any ill effects at all.
I did not grow a forked tail - thanks be to God.


The Bible advises us to, "love your neighbor as yourself." This is the second commandment of God's Law.
It's not a suggestion or a rule of thumb. If you love God, you will love your neighbor.

Jesus said, "do unto others as you would have them do unto you." Who was this Jesus anyway? Is He some sort of religious icon that is only trotted out on holidays and sometimes on Sunday morning? Did He say what He meant and mean what He said - or are we just supposed to nod our empty heads and tell each other what a wonderful guy He was ... and then go about our merry way?

I WILL NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MY NEIGHBOR'S DEATH.

How clear does it have to get? Instead of acting like spoilt children or adult fools, shall we not follow our God and do right by ourselves and our neighbors? What has God said?

I got the shots. It didn't hurt and I don't need a lollypop after taking my medicine.

How about acting like adult Christians? How about doing the right thing for ourselves and our neighbors?

that's me, hollering from the choir loft...
About 1800 of us got our second injection (Moderna) today. None of those involved have reported any adverse reactions to the first injection.

I'll one more to your list.

I did not receive a microchip.

As of this afternoon, almost 10% of our county population have received both injections, and over 12% have received at least one injection. There have been no reported adverse reactions. The most serious reactions reported have been sore arms, or a pink or red injection the next day.
 

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How many women are going to ignore REAL breast cancer symptoms, now that the Covid vaccine causes "lumps"?
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/she-thought-she-had-breast-175200689.html

Also, Biden has purchased enough vaccines to jab every adult American.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/los-angeles-temporarily-close-vaccine-090019922.html

Why would he buy so much when 30% of Americans say they won't take the vaccine? Unless, like everything else Buden has lied about, we wont have a choice in taking it.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/policy/healthcare/538198-over-30-percent-of-americans-say-they-wont-get-covid-19-vaccine-poll?amp

And why is it necessary to "get vaccinated as quickly as possible, given the spread of new, more infectious variants like B.1.351, a coronavirus strain first identified in South Africa."
When: "Preliminary research found that B.1.351 could partially evade the protection offered by current vaccines."

Isn't that basically saying, "Hurry up and get vaccinated before this other strain that's NOT affected by the vaccine, hits"? I could see hurrying up if the vaccine covered both strains but since it doesn't, what's the point?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-just-purchased-200-million-223248233.html

"...the variant that first emerged in South Africa has now been detected in two cases in the Golden State. That variant worries experts as it is also highly contagious and appears more resistant to the vaccines"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ma...two-cases-of-south-african-strain-11613057769
 

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About 1800 of us got our second injection (Moderna) today. None of those involved have reported any adverse reactions to the first injection.

I'll one more to your list.

I did not receive a microchip.

As of this afternoon, almost 10% of our county population have received both injections, and over 12% have received at least one injection. There have been no reported adverse reactions. The most serious reactions reported have been sore arms, or a pink or red injection the next day.

I'm o.k. with good news regarding the Covid 19 vaccinations, as long as those who don't want to get vaccinated, have a choice.

Although, it will take 10 years for the official results are known. Just because there isn't a widespread adverse reaction in the short term, doesn't mean there will not be in the long tern. Either does it mean there will be long term adverse reactions, there isn't a lot of long term historical data for the vaccinations, so it may be to early for a parade quite yet.

O.k., for the sake of a fun discussion, what are the odds that the Covid 19 Vaccine will start the zombie apocalypse?

 
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The Sabbath day is the seal of God
Christians DO NOT CARE about the sabbath being the seal or sign of God. Not a little and not a lot. Doing speaks louder than words. If true, then what do Christians do? They violate God's LAW whenever and wherever it pleases them so as to put their hands on any filthy thing they desire. This is a prime example of Christian hypocrisy.

Christians hate Jews and Jewish LAW. The forth commandment says to remember the sabbath day and keep it holy. The sabbath day is the last or seventh day - Saturday. Thus every time a Christian walks through the door of a church on Sunday they SIN by breaking the forth commandment. This lawLESSness comes from the Roman Catholic church that changed the day - because they hate Jews. No other religious system, including Islam, has murdered more Jews than the Christian church.

"Remember thou keep holy the SABBATH-day;" for this commandment has not, in Scripture, been changed or abrogated;... Rev. Stephen Keenan, A Doctrinal Catechism; New York in 1857, page 101 Imprimatuer

We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday.” -Rev. Peter Geiermann C.SS.R., The Convert’s Catechism of Catholic Doctrine, p. 50

Who is this beastly character that will change God's commandment in so flagrant and demonic ways? It is the POPE, the head of the Roman Catholic religious system (the Sea Beast of Revelation 13). We can identify this demon king by using the Biblical prophecy about his character. Read it!

He will speak against the Most High and oppress his holy people and try to change the set times and the laws. - Daniel 7:25

If the Bible text isn't sufficient for the reader to understand then read a statement issued by the Roman Catholic church itself.

"The Pope and God are the same, so he has all power in heaven and earth." - Barclay Cap. XXVII, p. 218. Cities Petrus Bertrandus, Pius V.

How clear does this have to get, people?

Post protestant Christians DO NOT CARE about God's LAW because they follow in lock step with satan's god king on earth - the Papal head of the Roman Catholic church.

Saturday belongs to God.
Sunday belongs to the NFL.

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Had the virus. Natural immune system and treatments defeated the virus.

Received the vaccine. Spike protein is told to replicate on all cells. Immune system sees the spike protein as the enemy and attacks the cells.

Patients DIE. I greatly fear this scenario occurring over and over, even with those who have been vaccinated, but haven't yet encountered the wild virus. Start praying.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/death...fter-vaccine-raise-questions_3692259.html?amp
 
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Had the virus. Natural immune system and treatments defeated the virus.

Received the vaccine. Spike protein is told to replicate on all cells. Immune system sees the spike protein as the enemy and attacks the cells.

Patients DIE. I greatly fear this scenario occurring over and over, even with those who have been vaccinated, but haven't yet encountered the wild virus. Start praying.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/death...fter-vaccine-raise-questions_3692259.html?amp

Not all cells replicate the spike protein. Only the immune system cell that takes on the mRNA does that.

A Closer Look at How COVID-19 mRNA Vaccines Work
COVID-19 mRNA vaccines give instructions for our cells to make a harmless piece of what is called the “spike protein.” The spike protein is found on the surface of the virus that causes COVID-19.

COVID-19 mRNA vaccines are given in the upper arm muscle. Once the instructions (mRNA) are inside the immune cells, the cells use them to make the protein piece. After the protein piece is made, the cell breaks down the instructions and gets rid of them.

Next, the cell displays the protein piece on its surface. Our immune systems recognize that the protein doesn’t belong there and begin building an immune response and making antibodies, like what happens in natural infection against COVID-19.

At the end of the process, our bodies have learned how to protect against future infection. The benefit of mRNA vaccines, like all vaccines, is those vaccinated gain this protection without ever having to risk the serious consequences of getting sick with COVID-19.
 
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Had the virus. Natural immune system and treatments defeated the virus.

Received the vaccine. Spike protein is told to replicate on all cells. Immune system sees the spike protein as the enemy and attacks the cells.

Patients DIE. I greatly fear this scenario occurring over and over, even with those who have been vaccinated, but haven't yet encountered the wild virus. Start praying.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/death...fter-vaccine-raise-questions_3692259.html?amp
What would be really cool is if they could figure out how to use mRNA of an individual's specific cancer cells to cause your own immune system to create antibodies to attack that specific cancer cell where ever it is found in the body.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41577-020-00417-7
 

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02/09/21

BIG PHARMA › VIEWS
Immunologist: Pfizer, Moderna Vaccines Could Cause Long-Term Chronic Illness
In new research published in Microbiology & Infectious Diseases, immunologist J. Bart Classen warns the mRNA technology used in the Pfizer and Moderna COVID vaccines could create “new potential mechanisms” of adverse events that may take years to come to light.

By
Children's Health Defense Team


Those contemplating COVID injections may be ignoring potential risks at their own peril.
Back in 1999, leading U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) official Dr. Peter Patriarca contended that modern advances in vaccine technology were rapidly “outpacing researchers’ ability to predict potential vaccine-related adverse events.” Patriarca mused that this could lead to “a situation of unforeseen and unpredictable vaccine outcomes.”

In a new research article published in Microbiology & Infectious Diseases, veteran immunologist J. Bart Classen expresses similar concerns and writes that “RNA-based COVID vaccines have the potential to cause more disease than the epidemic of COVID-19.”

For decades, Classen has published papers exploring how vaccination can give rise to chronic conditions such as Type 1 and Type 2 diabetes — not right away, but three or four years down the road.

In this latest paper, Classen warns that the RNA-based vaccine technology could create “new potential mechanisms” of vaccine adverse events that may take years to come to light.

FREE Webinar - The Covid Vaccine on Trial - Watch Now
Classen’s study establishes the potential for the messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccines developed by Pfizer and Moderna to activate human proteins to take on “pathologic configurations” — configurations associated with chronic degenerative neurological diseases. Although his specific interest is in prion diseases (conditions associated with misfolded versions of normal proteins), Classen also outlines a handful of other mechanisms whereby RNA-based vaccines could give rise to “multiple other potential fatal adverse events.”

Ensuring that patients clearly understand risks — including known risks as well as potential unknown risks — is an important component of the informed consent process. This is all the more true when the intervention is experimental and lacks long-term safety data, as is the case with the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines against COVID-19. The FDA authorized the two vaccines for widespread emergency use based on just two months of clinical trial data.

Unfortunately, it is not unusual for researchers’ communication of risks to be perfunctory. In October, researchers at New York University and Tulane reported that the information communicated to participants in the coronavirus clinical trials about a worrisome problem known as pathogenic priming was “sufficiently obscured” as to make “adequate patient comprehension” of risks “unlikely.”

It would be interesting to know what those researchers would say about Classen’s blunt conclusion that “Approving a vaccine, utilizing novel RNA technology without extensive testing is extremely dangerous.”

Those contemplating COVID injections may be ignoring potential risks at their own peril.
 
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BIG PHARMA › VIEWS
Immunologist: Pfizer, Moderna Vaccines Could Cause Long-Term Chronic Illness
In new research published in Microbiology & Infectious Diseases, immunologist J. Bart Classen warns the mRNA technology used in the Pfizer and Moderna COVID vaccines could create “new potential mechanisms” of adverse events that may take years to come to light.

By
Children's Health Defense Team


Those contemplating COVID injections may be ignoring potential risks at their own peril.
Back in 1999, leading U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) official Dr. Peter Patriarca contended that modern advances in vaccine technology were rapidly “outpacing researchers’ ability to predict potential vaccine-related adverse events.” Patriarca mused that this could lead to “a situation of unforeseen and unpredictable vaccine outcomes.”

In a new research article published in Microbiology & Infectious Diseases, veteran immunologist J. Bart Classen expresses similar concerns and writes that “RNA-based COVID vaccines have the potential to cause more disease than the epidemic of COVID-19.”

For decades, Classen has published papers exploring how vaccination can give rise to chronic conditions such as Type 1 and Type 2 diabetes — not right away, but three or four years down the road.

In this latest paper, Classen warns that the RNA-based vaccine technology could create “new potential mechanisms” of vaccine adverse events that may take years to come to light.

FREE Webinar - The Covid Vaccine on Trial - Watch Now
Classen’s study establishes the potential for the messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccines developed by Pfizer and Moderna to activate human proteins to take on “pathologic configurations” — configurations associated with chronic degenerative neurological diseases. Although his specific interest is in prion diseases (conditions associated with misfolded versions of normal proteins), Classen also outlines a handful of other mechanisms whereby RNA-based vaccines could give rise to “multiple other potential fatal adverse events.”

Ensuring that patients clearly understand risks — including known risks as well as potential unknown risks — is an important component of the informed consent process. This is all the more true when the intervention is experimental and lacks long-term safety data, as is the case with the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines against COVID-19. The FDA authorized the two vaccines for widespread emergency use based on just two months of clinical trial data.

Unfortunately, it is not unusual for researchers’ communication of risks to be perfunctory. In October, researchers at New York University and Tulane reported that the information communicated to participants in the coronavirus clinical trials about a worrisome problem known as pathogenic priming was “sufficiently obscured” as to make “adequate patient comprehension” of risks “unlikely.”

It would be interesting to know what those researchers would say about Classen’s blunt conclusion that “Approving a vaccine, utilizing novel RNA technology without extensive testing is extremely dangerous.”

Those contemplating COVID injections may be ignoring potential risks at their own peril.
John Barthelow Classen is an American immunologist and anti-vaccinationist. He received his M.D. from the University of Maryland, Baltimore in 1988, his M.B.A. from Columbia University in 1992 and obtained his medical license in October 1997.[1][2] He is best known for publishing research concluding that vaccines, in particular the Hib vaccine, cause insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus,[3] a hypothesis he proposed based on experiments he conducted on mice in 1996.[4] His views are disputed and considered unverified.

Anti-vaccination views
Classen proposes that vaccines cause diabetes by causing the release of interferons, causing an autoimmune state leading to immune-mediated type 1 diabetes,[5] and he is quoted on many anti-vaccine websites, such as that of the National Vaccine Information Center. His work has been criticized by some, such as Amy Wallace, who wrote that the vaccine-diabetes link "...relies on the flawed work of one doctor [Classen], who gathered data on a slew of vaccines and failed to follow standard study protocols. No other study — including those using the same data — could reproduce the results."[6] Studies that have investigated the potential link between vaccines and diabetes include one, published by Frank DeStefano, which "did not find an increased risk of type 1 diabetes associated with any of the routinely recommended childhood vaccines."[7] DeStefano et al. also noted that another study of over 100,000 children examined the potential connection between Hib vaccines and diabetes and found no association between the two.[8] Similarly, the Australian National Centre for Immunisation Research and Surveillance examined Classen's studies and wrote that "Other researchers who have studied the issue have not verified Dr Classen’s findings."[9]

The American Council on Science and Health's Gilbert Ross has said the following of Classen's claims of a link between vaccines, autism, and immune-related diseases:

"These assertions have absolutely no basis in scientific fact. The link between vaccines and autism has been debunked multiple times since it was first proposed by Wakefield, and the bottom line is that there was never any link between vaccines and autism. We urge the public to stop listening to the ideas promoted by the anti-vaccine movement and do what is best for public health, which is to get vaccinated."[10]
 

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John Barthelow Classen is an American immunologist and anti-vaccinationist. He received his M.D. from the University of Maryland, Baltimore in 1988, his M.B.A. from Columbia University in 1992 and obtained his medical license in October 1997.[1][2] He is best known for publishing research concluding that vaccines, in particular the Hib vaccine, cause insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus,[3] a hypothesis he proposed based on experiments he conducted on mice in 1996.[4] His views are disputed and considered unverified.

Anti-vaccination views
Classen proposes that vaccines cause diabetes by causing the release of interferons, causing an autoimmune state leading to immune-mediated type 1 diabetes,[5] and he is quoted on many anti-vaccine websites, such as that of the National Vaccine Information Center. His work has been criticized by some, such as Amy Wallace, who wrote that the vaccine-diabetes link "...relies on the flawed work of one doctor [Classen], who gathered data on a slew of vaccines and failed to follow standard study protocols. No other study — including those using the same data — could reproduce the results."[6] Studies that have investigated the potential link between vaccines and diabetes include one, published by Frank DeStefano, which "did not find an increased risk of type 1 diabetes associated with any of the routinely recommended childhood vaccines."[7] DeStefano et al. also noted that another study of over 100,000 children examined the potential connection between Hib vaccines and diabetes and found no association between the two.[8] Similarly, the Australian National Centre for Immunisation Research and Surveillance examined Classen's studies and wrote that "Other researchers who have studied the issue have not verified Dr Classen’s findings."[9]

The American Council on Science and Health's Gilbert Ross has said the following of Classen's claims of a link between vaccines, autism, and immune-related diseases:

"These assertions have absolutely no basis in scientific fact. The link between vaccines and autism has been debunked multiple times since it was first proposed by Wakefield, and the bottom line is that there was never any link between vaccines and autism. We urge the public to stop listening to the ideas promoted by the anti-vaccine movement and do what is best for public health, which is to get vaccinated."[10]

what has a basis in scientific reality is having a healthy immune system helps one not to get colds and viruses , which is something you liberals strangely deny.
 
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About 1800 of us got our second injection (Moderna) today. None of those involved have reported any adverse reactions to the first injection.

I'll one more to your list.

I did not receive a microchip.

As of this afternoon, almost 10% of our county population have received both injections, and over 12% have received at least one injection. There have been no reported adverse reactions. The most serious reactions reported have been sore arms, or a pink or red injection the next day.
As I am listening to the latest reports. I hear about the new variants that is out there. I am not sure if it were in the United States, where everyone in the nursing home got both their Pfizer shots. And sometime later on some individuals tested positive for covid. They tested positive for the new UK variant. What will happen now in this case. If you have taken the vaccine, you wont have to quarantine but that is only with 90 days. If your 90 days has expired, you will have to quarantine just like those whom haven't taken the vaccine. You probably will need to take the Pfizer booster for protection against the variant. Then people talk of the science and common sense. There is going to be never end to this beast. The narrative is changing. You will be injected for life with the poison there is no getting away with it that if you want to be enslave by the government and the Gates & Co. And to top it all the CDC has given recommendations for Americans to wear two masks as it gives more protection against the virus. And they did the test in the lab with dummies and according to the science it works on the dummies and sure will work on us.
 
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