ALERT: THE VACCINE MIGHT BE THE MARK OF THE BEAST

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Genipher

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I'd be willing to bet you a few dollars that your pastor does NOT preach the Bible.

There are two forms of sermon: scriptural & topical.

A scriptural sermon uses scripture throughout as an outline. The sermon follows the quoted scripture line by line. It's much like a formal Bible study or lecture. This style is generally not used because pastors consider it too boring for the congregation to handle.
A topical sermon is technically NOT Bible preaching because it tends to wander away from scripture to make its own point. A topical sermon uses scripture -quotes- to support its assertion, not scripture directly.

For instance, topical sermons were popular in pre-Civil War southern congregations to support slavery. They are used today to justify non-Biblical life styles. This being said, a topical sermon is the most popular type being employed by preachers today. It avoids unpleasant Biblical truths and references to Biblical LAW. They usually appeal to the congregation to inspire donation$ rather than spiritual growth. (When was the last time you heard a sermon series on Repentance?)

Church "missions" are general pitches to the congregation to cough up money to support exaggerated programs that do next to nothing to spread the gospel. When was the last time your church, or any church you know of, supported a major effort to present the gospel to your community. The days of Billy Graham type evangelistic efforts that filled sports stadiums are over. The days of the traveling tent revivals are over too. Modern calls for ministry funding only serve to empty the pockets of congregations - to shear the sheep of their personal wool so to speak.

The true mission of pastors is and ought to be to SPEAK AGAINST the excesses of society and to PROMOTE THE GOSPEL.

"If there is a decay of conscience, the pulpit is responsible for it. If the public press lacks moral discernment, the pulpit is responsible for it. If the church is degenerate and worldly, the pulpit is responsible for it. If the world loses its interest in Christianity, the pulpit is responsible for it. If Satan rules in our halls of legislation, the pulpit is responsible for it. If our politics become so corrupt that their very foundations of our government are ready to fall away, the pulpit is responsible for it."
- Charles Finney

IRS code 501.c.3 has effectively muzzled our pastors via the threat of removal of tax exemptions. Ask your pastor about this. He'll tell you the same thing.

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Pastor at my church preaches "scriptural sermons".

He's pointed out how hard it can be to teach/preach certain topics when going verse by verse, as it leaves no room to gloss over certain topics (like submission), that might offend some.
 

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I realize it will not change your mind but for those who do appreciate facts I will respond with my "homework":

The Oxford English Dictionary defines conspiracy theory as "the theory that an event or phenomenon occurs as a result of a conspiracy between interested parties; spec. a belief that some covert but influential agency (typically political in motivation and oppressive in intent) is responsible for an unexplained event". It cites a 1909 article in The American Historical Review as the earliest usage example,[34][35] although it also appeared in print as early as April 1870.[36]


But I do find it rather humorous that the phrase "conspiracy theory" has it's own conspiracy theory. :ROFL:

Also this is rather telling:

Conspiracy theories resist falsification and are reinforced by circular reasoning: both evidence against the conspiracy and an absence of evidence for it are re-interpreted as evidence of its truth,[6][7] whereby the conspiracy becomes a matter of faith rather than something that can be proved or disproved.[8][9] Research suggests that conspiracist ideation—belief in conspiracy theories—may be psychologically harmful or pathological[10][11] and that it is correlated with psychological projection, paranoia and Machiavellianism.[12] Psychologists attribute finding a conspiracy where there is none to a mental phenomenon called illusory pattern perception.[13][14]

Apophenia (/æpoʊˈfiːniə/) is the tendency to perceive meaningful connections between unrelated things.[1] The term (German: Apophänie) was coined by psychiatrist Klaus Conrad in his 1958 publication on the beginning stages of schizophrenia.[2] He defined it as "unmotivated seeing of connections [accompanied by] a specific feeling of abnormal meaningfulness".[3][4] He described the early stages of delusional thought as self-referential, over-interpretations of actual sensory perceptions, as opposed to hallucinations.[1][5]
Apophenia has come to imply a human propensity to seek patterns in random information, such as gambling


See also:
Did the CIA Invent the Term ‘Conspiracy Theory’? (snopes.com)
So many people are calling truth a "conspiracy theory" these days. Lots of gaslighting going on...
 

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Also, it won't be too long before we won't be able to believe a dictionary definition, as meanings of words are already being changed to suit liberal agendas. 🤷‍♀️
 

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Also, it won't be too long before we won't be able to believe a dictionary definition, as meanings of words are already being changed to suit liberal agendas. 🤷‍♀️
That seems like a crazy concept to me...but I believe it. What gets me is how there is a free pass on these things and then we all go along with it. But then again...we are living in crazy times that are going to end up in a great tribulation.
 

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Very well. Then if I reject the LAW it is perfectly acceptable in the eyes of God for me to murder YOU, rape your wife, steal your goods and burn your house to the ground.....blaming YOU for the entire misadventure. Sounds like an aberrant middle eastern philosophy to me. Sounds like a philosophy totally devoid of the LAW.

When you assert Torah is for Israel only, you are proclaiming Roman Catholic doctrines of salvation by works. It isn't Biblical. It isn't Christian. IT IS NOT OF GOD.

No, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a person's praise is not from other people, but from God. - Romans 2:29

The NT principle here is that when a person is saved, they become a Jew in the eyes of God. They become adopted sons and daughters of the Most High of the same nature and enjoying the same spiritual benefits as the children of Israel. (Read the book of Hebrews)

The CATHOLIC doctrine demands those who are saved join the church (saved by works). The CATHOLIC doctrine proclaims that the church is israel or spiritual israel (known as Replacement Theology or Supersessionism). This is heresy according to accurate Biblical interpretation.

What is a sabbath pusher? If you are attempting to insult THE WORD OF GOD which according to the 4th commandment proclaims Saturday, not sunday as the day to observe worship of God, then yes. I am a sabbath pusher. Your remark, btw, stinks of anti-semitism. I object to your Jew hating rhetoric. It is typical of post protestant Xians (fake Christians). The post protestant church marches in lock step with Rome. The Vatican has defined sunday instead of Saturday as the Lord's Day IN DIRECT VIOLATION OF GOD'S LAW.

Saturday belongs to God.
Sunday belongs to the NFL.


We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday.” -Rev. Peter Geiermann C.SS.R., The Convert’s Catechism of Catholic Doctrine, p. 50

CATHOLIC doctrine holds that the Pope is god. Therefore everything the pope says is supposed to have the authority of the Most High. This is evidence of the anti-Christ if ever there was such evidence.

What does the Bible say about he who exalts himself to the throne of God?

He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God. - 2 Thessalonians 2:4

What does the Catholic church itself proclaim about the Pope?

"The Pope and God are the same, so he has all power in heaven and earth." - Barclay Cap. XXVII, p. 218. Cities Petrus Bertrandus, Pius V.

Am I a sabbath pusher? YOUBETCHA
I follow God's LAW.
A better question is to ask if you follow the precepts of the devil's priest on earth?

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thanks, a simple yes without all the judeaizer propaganda would have been fine, but thanks.
 
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So many people are calling truth a "conspiracy theory" these days. Lots of gaslighting going on...
Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation in which a person or a group covertly sows seeds of doubt in a targeted individual or group, making them question their own memory, perception, or judgment
 

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Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation in which a person or a group covertly sows seeds of doubt in a targeted individual or group, making them question their own memory, perception, or judgment

you mean like saying the covid vax is totally safe , despite all the stories of side effects.....
 

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Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation in which a person or a group covertly sows seeds of doubt in a targeted individual or group, making them question their own memory, perception, or judgment
That's only half the meaning though.
Mistreatment comes first.
Then the gaslighting is applied by the abuser/s in an attempt to make the target believe they are imagining the abuse.

"It's just a conspiracy theory"
 

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That seems like a crazy concept to me...but I believe it. What gets me is how there is a free pass on these things and then we all go along with it. But then again...we are living in crazy times that are going to end up in a great tribulation.
It's already happening. Remember when Amy Coney Barrett used the words "sexual preference" during her confirmation hearing? Immediately after that, Webster's dictionary changed the definition of "preference" after Senator Mazie Hirono said the term was "offensive".

https://emergent.news/merriam-webst...vernight-because-of-acb-confirmation-hearing/
 

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It's good to hear others' viewpoints on this. I know the RCC is something but I've heard different interpretations. Did you have a particular bible study that taught this?
The question at the head of this post is confusing deceptive and completely non-Biblical.

What is the mark of the beast? (It is allegiance to a religious system [forehead] and action/works to support it [hand]).

To answer this question one must determine the identity of the beast.

Today post-protestants march in lock step with the Vatican, the church of Rome. They do it by dependence upon works and they do it by accepting Catholic interpretations of the Bible.

In 1590 Catholic Jesuit Francisco Ribera published a book establishing the doctrines of FUTURISM. Although rejected by the fathers of the Protestant reformation, FUTURISM went a long way to dispute those assertions and establish false doctrines now embraced by the post-protestant church. Chief among them is interpretation of the books of Daniel and Revelation. (Do yourself a favor and look it up.)

The Bible interprets itself. No external pontiff is required to explain things to anybody who can read.

In the books of Daniel and Revelation descriptions of animals are used to predict the future. It is clearly established that these animal figures are representative of; nations, organizations or religious systems. Horns or projections from the head of these animals represent leaders or a succession of leaders.

If I'm allowed to cut to the chase here, the Sea beast described in Revelation 13 is a religious organization that is world-wide in scope (interpreted in Revelation 17) - the Roman Catholic church. The horns coming out of the head of the Sea beast are a succession of popes. One of these was arrested and imprisoned by a Napoleonic general where he died at the end of the 18th century. The real estate of the Catholic church was seized and for over a hundred years THERE WAS NO POPE or Vatican. In the year 1929 Italian dictator Benito Mussolini reestablished the Papacy, gave the real estate back to the Catholic church and donated a large sum of money to sustain it in the early years of the 20th century. (Google it) Thus one of the heads suffered a fatal wound (he really did) and was later healed of it (by Mussolini). The whole world DID stand in amazement at the time as the Bible says they would.

Thus the mark of the beast is allegiance to a religious system because allegiance is a thing that lives in the mind. A mark on the hand is symbolic of works, which are in accord with the aforesaid allegiance. It has nothing to do with a jab in the arm to prevent disease. (Stupidity is not a virtue.)

But Ribera and the post reformation Catholic church didn't want Reformation ideology to survive, so he concocted the fantasy that nothing described in the Bible following the death of Jesus would be fulfilled until some distant unapproachable future - hence the moniker FUTURISM. (look it up)

Unfortunately the Earth Beast (the United States) follows in lock step with Rome (the Sea beast) and much of post protestant ideology about future events is a xerox copy of Ribera's anti-Biblical interpretations. This includes false doctrine such as the nature of the tribulation and the rapture. This latter has been turned inside out to persuade adherents they are among the blessed few of God's kingdom. They aren't. The rapture described in the Bible is actually a journey to hell taken by those who oppose God. (Luke 17 - where do the vultures take the separated few - not to heaven, but the place of the spiritually dead)

Study these assertions and see if they are true or not. It will require one to abandon previous false assumptions about the beast, about its mark, and about the COVID vaccine among other matters.

Think. Read. Study.

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Where did you get the idea that there was no Pope or Vatican between the end of the 18th Century
1929? If you check out Wikipedia you will find a very detailed account of every Pope that existed from St Peter onwards. The only time that there was no Pope at the Vatican was for a period of about six months. In 1775 Napoleons troops stormed the Vatican and took Pius V1 prisoner. The Pope made a bad choice of condemning the French revolution and died in exile in 1799. From August 1799 until March 1800 there was no specifically recognised pope. Here is a list of Popes around during the period you claim there were none.

Pius V1 1775 - 1799, Pius V11 1800 -1823 Leo X11 1823 - 1829 Pius V111 1829 -1830

Gregory XV1 1831 Pius 1X 1846 - 1878 Leo X 1878 - 1903 Pius X 1903 - 1914

Benedict XV 1914 - 1922 Pius X1 1922 - 1939 Pius X11 1939 - 1958

So why would the world be astonished when Mussolini gave the Vatican lands back to the RCC

Martin Luther was the first Protestant. But he protested against corruption within the Catholic
Church. He had no intention of forming a new denomination.

You are right in saying that Ribera popularised the idea that everything about the Beast and
the last days were set in the distant future at the behest of the Pope but these beliefs were current
centuries before and were held by some of the Church Fathers. The view is also expressed in the Didache which is viewed as one of the earliest Christian writings outside the New Testament.
 
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Where did you get the idea that there was no Pope or Vatican between the end of the 18th Century
1929? If you check out Wikipedia you will find a very detailed account of every Pope that existed from St Peter onwards. The only time that there was no Pope at the Vatican was for a period of about six months. In 1775 Napoleons troops stormed the Vatican and took Pius V1 prisoner. The Pope made a bad choice of condemning the French revolution and died in exile in 1799. From August 1799 until March 1800 there was no specifically recognised pope. Here is a list of Popes around during the period you claim there were none.

Pius V1 1775 - 1799, Pius V11 1800 -1823 Leo X11 1823 - 1829 Pius V111 1829 -1830

Gregory XV1 1831 Pius 1X 1846 - 1878 Leo X 1878 - 1903 Pius X 1903 - 1914

Benedict XV 1914 - 1922 Pius X1 1922 - 1939 Pius X11 1939 - 1958

So why would the world be astonished when Mussolini gave the Vatican lands back to the RCC

Martin Luther was the first Protestant. But he protested against corruption within the Catholic
Church. He had no intention of forming a new denomination.

You are right in saying that Ribera popularised the idea that everything about the Beast and
the last days were set in the distant future at the behest of the Pope but these beliefs were current
centuries before and were held by some of the Church Fathers. The view is also expressed in the Didache which is viewed as one of the earliest Christian writings outside the New Testament.
Napoleon and the papacy had quite a large number of disagreements. Tracking these and making sense of them can be a difficult task according to Edward Sheehan of the New York Times who wrote about that period. But Mr. Sheehan's task wasn't undertaken for the purpose of validating Biblical prophecy. He just wanted to make sense out of a can of worms.

The basic points of what I'm referring to are these: Napoleonic arrest of a sitting pope (Pius VI), who then died in prison (head wound of Revelation 13) and subsequent restoration of Vatican property by the Lateran Treaties of 1929 established by Benito Mussolini (healed head wound).

1- Revelation 13 head wound.

In December 1797 a riot took place in Rome and a Brigadier General that had been sent to Rome by Napoleon as part of the diplomatic mission, was killed. Napoleon then sent forces to Rome, defeated the papal forces around Pope Pius VI, and had him transported to Valence where he died shortly after his arrival. (The previous is a quote from an historic document. Pius VI actually died in 1799, not exactly a short time in prison.)

The political situation in France was in flux. Students of French history, as well as those who monitor the succession of popes, will usually get a thumbnail view of those events. Things moved very rapidly, but the bottom line is that Pius VI DID die in prison.

The head of the Sea Beast thus suffered a mortal wound as predicted by Revelation 13.

2-Revaltion 13 head wound healed.

The Lateran Treaty, also called Lateran Pact of 1929, treaty (effective June 7, 1929, to June 3, 1985) was established between Italian fascist dictator Benito Mussolini and the papacy. Actually this was a series of treaties, but I digress. The Lateran Treaty/Pacts had three parts;

a: political treaty (giving the Vatican its own micro-state) or re-birth of Catholic political power lost by previous Papal arrest
b: financial convention (giving the Vatican reparations) - which enabled the establishment of the Vatican Bank (*)
c: a concordat (giving privileges within Italy, for instance by letting the Church influence public education)

The horn of the Sea Beast was thus healed exactly as Revelation predicted it would.

It is difficult to sift through history to discover these gems mostly because historians don't generally pay attention to parallels between history and Biblical prophecy. Notations about church history is about as close as they get and that can be pretty convoluted at times.

Dig for yourself - and by the way, please try to use some references in addition to Wikipedia. It's good, but it isn't complete as a professor I knew at the college once told me. Wikipedia is also subject to government regulation. By that I mean CIA influence. For instance, I am aware of a certain coup d'etat in South America during the early 1970's that directly involved the US military. Wikipedia denies it happened, but I was there - personally.

One cannot use Wikipedia as the sole source of information. It is limited in scope.

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(*) The Vatican Banks' actual name is The Institute for the Works of Religion. It's a privately owned and operated financial institution independent of Italian government regulation. This bank has come under scrutiny in recent years because it's been known to have been used by certain individuals and groups outside the church for private enterprises (the Mafia as well as certain intelligence agencies).
 
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thanks, a simple yes without all the judeaizer propaganda would have been fine, but thanks.
Ignorance invites education.

Whether or not that education is accepted depends upon the person receiving it....or their ability to understand it.

Some people prefer to remain ignorant and anti-semitic.

The Bible is full of educational material about the role of Jews in salvation. Modern post protestants, who hate Jews and take every occasion to spit upon their legacy and stomp it into the dirt, deny it. Millions of murdered Jews are a testament to this fact.

The church has been the greatest persecutor of Jews in history. Not even the Muslim hordes have killed as many Jews as the church. Christians have an ocean of blood on their hands. To this day they deny the truth of history.

That which you call propaganda and which you deny will come back to haunt you one day. One could hope that day would happen for you before you meet the Christ WHO IS ONE OF THE JEWS YOU HATE.

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So many people are calling truth a "conspiracy theory" these days. Lots of gaslighting going on...
The term 'conspiracy theory' wasn't in common use in the United States prior to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy on November 22, 1963.

Conspiracies were and are a common aspect of American politics. US history is replete with them. The assassination of President Lincoln is one of them. It's one that stands out in the minds of most folks.

A conspiracy involving the government isn't generally one of them, but it happened for the first time in 1933 and was called the Business Plot. It was an attempt by certain financial institutions, as well as the New York Times, to overthrow then president Franklin D. Roosevelt. The grandfather of President George W. Bush was one of the conspirators. Kennedy's assassination, as well as 911, are other examples - sponsored at least in part by American intelligence agencies.

The term conspiracy theory wasn't invented by the US intelligence agencies, but it was used to good advantage to cover or confuse their role in these matters. Consider that facts, which support their involvement, have been suppressed by direct intervention (when VP Cheney halted a congressional investigation into 911) or by mockery in the media (manipulated by the CIA (*))

The extent of the reach of those opposed to the free exchange of information and opinion have so extended their reach into American society that even members of congress are no longer immune to the pressure they can bring to bear. Silence and censorship is the rule today.

A new dark age is upon America. The enjoyment of liberty is being squelched and the rule of idiocy and fools is now paramount.

May God have mercy upon us who know Christ.

IF GOD DOES NOT JUDGE THE UNITED STATES HE WILL HAVE TO APOLOGIZE TO SODOM AND GOMORRAH.

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(*) "The CIA has every imaginable media outlet covered." - William Casey former director of the CIA
 
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I received my second Pfizer COVID vaccine today. It was given at a Tampa free clinic in Tampa near Raymond James stadium where the Super Bowl will be played in a couple days.

They’ve got a football carnival set up over there called The Super Bowl Experience. It’s basically a siphon to take money from suckers who can’t get in to see the real game. Tickets for this con job are so expensive the web site won’t divulge the co$t. True American capitalism at work. Cars were lined up all down the road this morning, waiting for a chance to get in and pay out real money for toys and games (but no ride except the one they take to the cleaners).

I suffered no ill effects from the 1st shot. They tell me to expect something this time, though. Maybe, we’ll see. I thank God for the opportunity to get the vaccine when so many are screaming for it and waiting absurd amounts of time for none at all.

"Love your neighbor as yourself," the Lord once said. Taking precautions isn't just for one's self. It's a boost for the rest of the community too.

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Napoleon and the papacy had quite a large number of disagreements. Tracking these and making sense of them can be a difficult task according to Edward Sheehan of the New York Times who wrote about that period. But Mr. Sheehan's task wasn't undertaken for the purpose of validating Biblical prophecy. He just wanted to make sense out of a can of worms.

The basic points of what I'm referring to are these: Napoleonic arrest of a sitting pope (Pius VI), who then died in prison (head wound of Revelation 13) and subsequent restoration of Vatican property by the Lateran Treaties of 1929 established by Benito Mussolini (healed head wound).

1- Revelation 13 head wound.

In December 1797 a riot took place in Rome and a Brigadier General that had been sent to Rome by Napoleon as part of the diplomatic mission, was killed. Napoleon then sent forces to Rome, defeated the papal forces around Pope Pius VI, and had him transported to Valence where he died shortly after his arrival. (The previous is a quote from an historic document. Pius VI actually died in 1799, not exactly a short time in prison.)

The political situation in France was in flux. Students of French history, as well as those who monitor the succession of popes, will usually get a thumbnail view of those events. Things moved very rapidly, but the bottom line is that Pius VI DID die in prison.

The head of the Sea Beast thus suffered a mortal wound as predicted by Revelation 13.

2-Revaltion 13 head wound healed.

The Lateran Treaty, also called Lateran Pact of 1929, treaty (effective June 7, 1929, to June 3, 1985) was established between Italian fascist dictator Benito Mussolini and the papacy. Actually this was a series of treaties, but I digress. The Lateran Treaty/Pacts had three parts;

a: political treaty (giving the Vatican its own micro-state) or re-birth of Catholic political power lost by previous Papal arrest
b: financial convention (giving the Vatican reparations) - which enabled the establishment of the Vatican Bank (*)
c: a concordat (giving privileges within Italy, for instance by letting the Church influence public education)

The horn of the Sea Beast was thus healed exactly as Revelation predicted it would.

It is difficult to sift through history to discover these gems mostly because historians don't generally pay attention to parallels between history and Biblical prophecy. Notations about church history is about as close as they get and that can be pretty convoluted at times.

Dig for yourself - and by the way, please try to use some references in addition to Wikipedia. It's good, but it isn't complete as a professor I knew at the college once told me. Wikipedia is also subject to government regulation. By that I mean CIA influence. For instance, I am aware of a certain coup d'etat in South America during the early 1970's that directly involved the US military. Wikipedia denies it happened, but I was there - personally.

One cannot use Wikipedia as the sole source of information. It is limited in scope.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

(*) The Vatican Banks' actual name is The Institute for the Works of Religion. It's a privately owned and operated financial institution independent of Italian government regulation. This bank has come under scrutiny in recent years because it's been known to have been used by certain individuals and groups outside the church for private enterprises (the Mafia as well as certain intelligence agencies).
However you choose to interpret Bible Prophecy my main aim was to disprove your plain statement that the Papacy did not exist between the end of the eighteenth century and 1929
I could probably have used a number of other on line sources if I had the time and inclination but
I suspect you would put forward some other objections to them as well. Its pointless for me to continue this discussion with you.
 
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To think, we are almost a year into this pandemic. When will the plandemic come to an end. There so are many false positive results being given which results in the shedding of innocent blood and death not related covid are counted as covid19 death. If these reports were accurate we would be living our normal lives again. But these false positive infections has made innocent people to succumb to lies. Wave after wave. We are in 2nd wave and now they are talking about 3rd wave and fourth wave. Mutation of virus within such a short amount of time, in such small space of months. I absolutely don't believe the science. This science has been going in 360 degree circle, and caused more harm than just the lost of life. And now we have to deal with vaccines. It is obvious the media, will not attribute the vaccine to any of the causes for the deaths of the elderly and other healthy persons that took the inoculation. I heard of reports, that some health officials are afraid of taking the second dose because of the adverse effects they experienced from the frist dose. And these were from officials which were considered healthy. And the government won't admit that the experimental vaccines they have approve are actually dangerous and cannot go back on their word, because it has already been paid. Billions of dollars is spend on poison. There is no going back on it. It will be suicidal of the government to admit now they should continue with the lie.
 

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To think, we are almost a year into this pandemic. When will the plandemic come to an end. There so are many false positive results being given which results in the shedding of innocent blood and death not related covid are counted as covid19 death. If these reports were accurate we would be living our normal lives again. But these false positive infections has made innocent people to succumb to lies. Wave after wave. We are in 2nd wave and now they are talking about 3rd wave and fourth wave. Mutation of virus within such a short amount of time, in such small space of months. I absolutely don't believe the science. This science has been going in 360 degree circle, and caused more harm than just the lost of life. And now we have to deal with vaccines. It is obvious the media, will not attribute the vaccine to any of the causes for the deaths of the elderly and other healthy persons that took the inoculation. I heard of reports, that some health officials are afraid of taking the second dose because of the adverse effects they experienced from the frist dose. And these were from officials which were considered healthy. And the government won't admit that the experimental vaccines they have approve are actually dangerous and cannot go back on their word, because it has already been paid. Billions of dollars is spend on poison. There is no going back on it. It will be suicidal of the government to admit now they should continue with the lie.

You are entitled to your opinion. I wonder where you get your information from. Have you been in a Hospital ward where Corvid 19 patients are being treated? I have relatives who work in such places. Are they all liars? The main objection I have is that the more people who listen and believe in all these conspiracy theories are actually helping to spread it by misleading the gullible. I think that those who are so convinced that its all some devious Government plot should volunteer to work in the Hospitals and Care Homes where the' fictional virus and useless vaccines' are present after all they believe its all a Government plot so they should have nothing to worry about.
 
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You are entitled to your opinion. I wonder where you get your information from. Have you been in a Hospital ward where Corvid 19 patients are being treated? I have relatives who work in such places. Are they all liars? The main objection I have is that the more people who listen and believe in all these conspiracy theories are actually helping to spread it by misleading the gullible. I think that those who are so convinced that its all some devious Government plot should volunteer to work in the Hospitals and Care Homes where the' fictional virus and useless vaccines' are present after all they believe its all a Government plot so they should have nothing to worry about.
I would do volunteering any day to help those in hospitals and nursing homes. But the public are kept away. I am not afraid of contracting the virus. It is a case of most out there being ignorant concerning their body and how it functions. Because according to the law of nature disease cannot be transferred from one individual to another. And the primary cause for disease and sickness does not come from a virus. And by no means am I saying that all nurses and doctors on the ground are all apart of the plot. It would not be possible, then the truth will come out easily. Obviously, the Dr Anthony Fauci, the Gates, The Biden's and Co, The Pope, IMF and the big monopoly companies and the insiders are aware. This small minority has planned everything to the minotaur detail. My observations are that this pandemic is empowered by fear and when the person hear he or she has tested positive it is almost like death sentence for them.
 
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