ALERT: THE VACCINE MIGHT BE THE MARK OF THE BEAST

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GaryA

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Don't fall into the trap that we're going to be raptured out so why worry. That's just wrong on so many levels.
This is one of the things that is "part of the problem, and not the solution"...

So many Christians seem to think that Christ is going to show up "any second/minute/hour/day now" and rescue them "before it gets really bad" - and so - just don't think it is necessary or worth it "to be concerned with [doing anything about] it" at all.

Just how "really bad" does it have to get...???

And yes - you are correct in your statement - it is "just wrong on so many levels"...

@ ALL: I did not say that any-and-all who believe in 'pre-trib' are passively unconcerned about everything that is going on in the world today.

He was in Skull and Bones, a notoriously occult organizations.
I am pretty sure I remember correctly...

The word 'was' does not apply until they are dead.

Membership in Skull and Bones is "for life" - rest assured - he still is a member - the proper statement is - "He is in Skull and Bones"...

I don't believe that we have chosen our President in many years. The people at the highest of the entire world may be the Jesuits or illuminati or bankers - I don't know. But they decide who our President is. They just let us think that we decide, and that we are free. They play the Hegelian Dialectic on us all the time.
BINGO!

I think they've used a variety of psyops and psychological techniques on us to try to weaken, dumb down, and confuse us.
Yes.

The people on twitter had the right idea. I think it's way past time to take our country back.
That will be the only way...

Prayer may can do wonders for the situation, but passive wishful thinking is not going to help much. Ever heard anyone say "You need to put feet/legs on/to those prayers." ?

I pray constantly for God to step in because they have their police force in place nationwide; the police don't serve us - they serve the elite. I'm wondering how much more Americans are going to take it - especially since many know the end goals of Agenda 21. You'll be a slave, forced to live crammed in high rise tiny apartments. You won't be allowed to own a car; only the elite will. You won't be allowed at the beach, to the mountains, or anywhere - you'll have to ride your bike to wherever you want to go. You won't be allowed to own anything. You will be under constant surveillance. You won't be allowed to reproduce unless the government approves it. They'll only allow those to live who will serve their needs. Your every transaction will be viewed by the government. You'll be under tight control at all times. You won't be allowed to worship - if you're Christian, Hindu, Muslim, or Native American. You'll have to adhere to their faith. Perversion will abound. I just read yesterday that Gates came up with birth control implants that can be remotely controlled by the government. And lest anyone get the notion that they'll swing to their side where you'll be the recipient of benefits; forget it. They'll have you murdered when you're no longer of use to them.
I am glad you are aware of all of this.

I wish everyone was...

This is their "utopia" but your nightmare.
I wish for everyone to have a deep understanding of this, also.
 

GaryA

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So I think UBI could work if it's done right.
UBI cannot possibly be "done right" by the very people who want to institute it as a tool to force everyone into slavery.

Please think about the ultimate-and-eventual consequences of the scenario that you are talking about... ;)

Jesus could do it right. The citizenry might possibly do it right. But, the 'elite'? Never.

:)
 

GaryA

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You have far less rights than you think you have.
On one level, this is true. On another, the opposite is true.

And, this is the thing that people don't understand - but should.

The 'elite' have successfully convinced everyone that "they have no rights" except what the government gives them.

The reality is - your 'rights' come from God - not the government!

The reality is - no 'right' can be "waved" - by definition!

Everyone should understand "rights" with regard to:

1) God
2) Constitution
3) Common Law
4) Statute Law

If everyone understood these things today, we could end this thing tomorrow.

This is an absolute fact.

Do your research.
 

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just this morning, my local news has told folks not to travel ( while reporting from a jam packed atlanta airport ), that mask does NOT really work that well ( after months of MASK, MASK, MASK), and crowds should be avoided , and getting a virus test and coming up negative result does NOT mean you are not sick.

anyone that will buy into that can easily be convinced they have no rights.........
 
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except it seems a little outdated. I read that AstraZeneca started trials again after it was confirmed that the person with the neurological disorder was given a placebo thus ruling out the vaccine as the cause. This article does not seem to have that information. Maybe I am wrong. It deservers further research but I don't plan on getting the AstraZeneca one anyway, it uses the old technology of virus cultures and I am interested in the new mRNA method when it is available in my area for the general public.
 

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Yes, I'm a Sock Day Adventist.

:ROFL:
I hope that everyone on here recalls that I said that often two disinformation agents will often work in tandem, backing up what each other says and attempting to overpower, diffuse, or confuse any truth being spoken. It's highly unlikely that a true believer with discernment would rubber stamp Scribe's posts. Keep in mind Scripture:

2 Corinthians 11:13

“For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.”
 

saintrose

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I think I seen the same video, if it's the one about a lady having her outdoor cafeteria shut down. Not really a socialist either, but leadership should lead by example. If you say, people can't get paid, then you should be the first offer up your salary, and not get paid. That is what being a leader is. Do what I say, and not as I do, is a dictatorship.

I'm not one to for revolt or rebellion, I see Christ offering his life, and rebuking Peter for drawing a sword. Now I think what the Pilgrims did is fair game though, move to a land that offers freedom of religion.

They are shutting down churches and forbidden church meetings, this constitutes a religious restriction, which doesn't sit well with me. Freedom of religion is not a privilege, but a God given right.
Yes her restaurant was shut down but a movie company's outdoor dining 25 feet away was not! My what a choosy coronavirus we have...

I agree leaders should lead by example but the ones in office don't seem to be of high caliber.

I thought about it a lot, especially in light of Scripture that tells us to obey government. Chuck Baldwin refuted that faulty interpretation. Also, people in times past were not passive. Look at how the allied forces had to battle Hitler. What if Christians had sat there waiting for God to act instead of acting to free the persecuted Jews? I see far too many passive Christians when we're told in Scripture that we're co-laborers with God.

I'm an avid reader and also watch many documentaries. What was done to the Jews was an atrocity. What was particularly interesting was that they interviewed the support personnel, such as nurses, who helped kill imperfect babies. They asked why they did it and they answered: "Because I was told to."

If you look up Milgram's experiment, you can see how average people can deliver painful shocks to their fellow humans if told to do so by an "authority." The experiment was quite chilling and shows how average people can turn off their conscience if an authority figure orders them to harm a fellow human.

So I don't think we're to sit waiting to be raptured out or for Christ to step in. Of course I believe we're to keep our eye on the signs of the time to watch for his return, but I also believe that we're to be proactive in trying to make the world a better place while we're here. Patrick Wood has a good idea of getting involved in one's local politics/ government. If Christians aren't a restraining power then who is going to be?

The story that you refer to about Peter cutting off the soldier's ear was situational: Christ knew that specific happenings had to be fulfilled: "Then said Jesus unto Peter, Put up thy sword into the sheath: the cup which my Father hath given me, shall I not drink it?"

I don't think that means that our response should always be passive. I think passivity among Christians has brought us to the terrible place that we are now at: multitudes of babies being aborted and their body parts sold. Filth coming out of Hollywood. Legislators who act like little Hitlers. I'm a firm believer that Christians should be the most proactive people there are. We are warned in fact that there are sins of commission as well as sins of omission.

I tried to get friends to do the simplest act of contacting legislators about bills that were coming up and they refused to even do that. There was a kind of smug belief that they were more spiritual because they trusted God to do it all. I don't believe that God is going to hold them guiltless. They ignore verses like this:

1 Corinthians 15:58 - Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.

Ephesians 2:10 - For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Proverbs 18:9 - He also that is slothful in his work is brother to him that is a great waster.

2 Thessalonians 3:10 - For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

Proverbs 14:23 - In all labour there is profit: but the talk of the lips [tendeth] only to penury.

So I'm a believer in being proactive. We know that things are to wax worse - it was foretold to us that it would be 'as in the days of Noah' but nowhere in Scripture do I see God telling us to sit passively by and accept our lot until Christ returns. I see the opposite: we are to work and try to make the world a better place during our time here. There is much work to do.

I agree with you that it's really wrong to shut churches down. I was grateful for those pastors who refused to shut down. We need iron sharpening iron. You can't go to church but you can go into a liquor store? It's insanity.
 

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More evilness. Same goes about Mr Scribe and his Covidian cohorts being bad people if supporting this: But I have been saying this was coming since last Spring. I don’t say that to toot my own horn, but to continue to beseech you, that this has always been about power, control, and worsening persecution of Christians:

French Law Would Ban People Who Don't Get COVID Vaccine From Using Public Transport

https://www.zerohedge.com/political...dont-get-covid-vaccine-using-public-transport
 

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just this morning, my local news has told folks not to travel ( while reporting from a jam packed atlanta airport ), that mask does NOT really work that well ( after months of MASK, MASK, MASK), and crowds should be avoided , and getting a virus test and coming up negative result does NOT mean you are not sick.

anyone that will buy into that can easily be convinced they have no rights.........
I think that's why it's important to NOT cooperate. I read that a number of people have said that this is a test to see how far the American people can be pushed. You'd better be aware of what their end game is.

It's going to accelerate once Biden and Harris get in. Biden already said he was opening the border. Friends of my brother-in-law were the saddest people I've ever met. As I spoke with them they told me that their son was killed by a foreigner in the country going way over the speed limit. Those types of things are bound to grow worse under Biden.

I know that accidents happen among a nation's own populace, but when someone in America is a habitual speeder or who drinks and drives their license is revoked. We have no clue about the foreigners flooding here and what they're driving has been. Now I read that it's Chinese sneaking across the border. Our welfare system is already strapped and they're saying that SS is about depleted. How are we going to support all these welfare recipients? Anyone who manages their own finances knows that something is going to break with this type of system. A nation can not withstand that much of an influx of foreign cultures. All people have to do is study history to see the reasons why a nation fell.

Then the chameleon Kamala has said she's going after the guns. During times past, whenever tyranny took over they disarmed the people first.

There are going to be challenging times ahead.
 

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I hope that everyone on here recalls that I said that often two disinformation agents will often work in tandem, backing up what each other says and attempting to overpower, diffuse, or confuse any truth being spoken. It's highly unlikely that a true believer with discernment would rubber stamp Scribe's posts. Keep in mind Scripture:

2 Corinthians 11:13

“For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.”
And you feel no conviction at all?
 
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If Mr Scribe, and the other Covidians agree with this, then I am comfortable out and out calling them bad people:

German Geneticist Says People Who Refuse COVID Vaccine Should Be Denied Medical Treatment

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/...id-vaccine-should-be-denied-medical-treatment
I am on record here with many of my posts I have said I do not agree that anyone should be mandated to take a vaccine. Everyone should have the right to take one or not take one.

I am also on record of saying that zerohedge.com is not a reliable source for information and I would not believe anything from that site as they are well known of manipulation of partial truths to spin into conspiracies of all sorts.
 
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And you feel no conviction at all?

It's highly unlikely that a true believer with discernment would rubber stamp Scribe's posts. Keep in mind Scripture:
Seems like "conspiracy theories" are now part of the canon of scripture.

Is this new Bible on the shelves somewhere?
 
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I am on record here with many of my posts I have said I do not agree that anyone should be mandated to take a vaccine. Everyone should have the right to take one or not take one.

I am also on record of saying that zerohedge.com is not a reliable source for information and I would not believe anything from that site as they are well known of manipulation of partial truths to spin into conspiracies of all sorts.
Zerohedge is far from reliable, along with Gateway Pundit, Epoch Times, OANN, NewsMax, LifeSite, PrisonPlanet.

And if one starts to read those sites without a critical eye it is not long until one is indoctrinated by false information.
And I might add very hard to come out from it when it becomes part and parcel of one's religious world view.
 
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More evilness. Same goes about Mr Scribe and his Covidian cohorts being bad people if supporting this: But I have been saying this was coming since last Spring. I don’t say that to toot my own horn, but to continue to beseech you, that this has always been about power, control, and worsening persecution of Christians:

French Law Would Ban People Who Don't Get COVID Vaccine From Using Public Transport

https://www.zerohedge.com/political...dont-get-covid-vaccine-using-public-transport
I don't believe anyone should be forced to get a vaccine.
I don't believe anyone should lie to scare people away from a vaccine.
I don't believe anyone should pass on information that is a lie simply because it supports their view that all vaccines are bad.
I don't believe that people should make false accusations against other people or they will have to answer to God for it. God hates it. There is nothing in the scriptures that says God hates vaccines. There is plenty of scriptures that say God hates false accusers.

I don't believe people should vilify others if they disagree with their views on vaccines. I don't care if someone thinks all vaccines are bad. That is their right and I don't think they are a bad person morally for thinking that.

I do believe according to the scriptures that it is a bad immoral decision to vilify and call those who believe in vaccines evil, or on the devils side or having impure motives. People need to learn to discuss their views using logic, reasoning and facts instead of launching into the emotional rhetoric that does not support their views. When people do that they simply make themselves sound unbalanced.
 
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EleventhHour

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People need to learn to discuss their views using logic, reasoning and facts instead of launching into the emotional rhetoric that does not support their views.

Good luck with that.
 
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On one level, this is true. On another, the opposite is true.

And, this is the thing that people don't understand - but should.

The 'elite' have successfully convinced everyone that "they have no rights" except what the government gives them.

The reality is - your 'rights' come from God - not the government!

The reality is - no 'right' can be "waved" - by definition!

Everyone should understand "rights" with regard to:

1) God
2) Constitution
3) Common Law
4) Statute Law

If everyone understood these things today, we could end this thing tomorrow.

This is an absolute fact.

Do your research.

I basically agree with your post. However, it is my observation that people loose rightws even with God if they take them for granted.

It is one thing to claim 'rights' and of course God does extend freedom through His Son, but no one should ever take any of that for a 'given'. For example, the Israelites lost every right they had when the went after other gods.

I pretty much see the devil operating through communism and putting people into submission to evil, Christians persecuted etc.
 

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I never heard of pine needle tea. Do you boil pine needles?
I realize you asked this days ago, but do not see that anyone responded on this page, which is
where I landed when I clicked the link for this thread. I looked up pine needle tea and found this:

Pine needle tea has been considered an important medicinal tool for indigenous cultures for thousands of years. While formal research is somewhat limited on the subject, the anecdotal evidence of its benefits is undeniable: maximizing the immune system, improving vision, preventing respiratory infections, stimulating circulation, avoiding chronic disease, increasing cognitive performance, strengthening heart health, and speeding healing. With more than a hundred varieties of pine trees in North America alone, you must use the correct pine needles, as some varieties may contain toxins or cause negative side effects. source
 
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I don't believe anyone should be forced to get a vaccine.
I don't believe anyone should lie to scare people away from a vaccine.
I don't believe anyone should pass on information that is a lie simply because it supports their view that all vaccines are bad.
I don't believe that people should make false accusations against other people or they will have to answer to God for it. God hates it. There is nothing in the scriptures that says God hates vaccines. There is plenty of scriptures that say God hates false accusers.

I don't believe people should vilify others if they disagree with their views on vaccines. I don't care if someone thinks all vaccines are bad. That is their right and I don't think they are a bad person morally for thinking that.

I do believe according to the scriptures that it is a bad immoral decision to vilify and call those who believe in vaccines evil, or on the devils side or having impure motives. People need to learn to discuss their views using logic, reasoning and facts instead of launching into the emotional rhetoric that does not support their views. When people do that they simply make themselves sound unbalanced.
If we look to bible prophecy. We will see that the four hebrew boys in chapter 1 of the book of Daniel had a test. And the test was about defiling your body with unclean substance or in their case unclean foods and drinks. And Daniel purposed in his heart not to be defile his body with unclean foods. And we see a similar test being brought to christians of today where each person should decide if they will defile their body with unclean substance. This will be first test and later on in chapter 3 it was the test of bowing infront of Nebuchadnezzar's image. If the christian fail here and accept the vaccination they will also bow to the image. That is my take.
 
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