"Antichrist": Broad Deception By Narrow Definition

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Magenta said:
You still have not answered the question :unsure: God decided to drown the whole world at one time (aside from Noah and his family and the animals on the ark) because the thoughts of men were only evil all the time. Has human nature changed? Is there some other way to God in your view? Isn't the whole purpose of the Bible to show us Who God is? In Christianity God has a Son. In Islam such a belief is blasphemy.
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Was Noah Jewish? and all the people killed? Were they from all parts of the world? If so, how did they get the word? Did Noah load dinosaurs in his Yacht as well? About 20 year's ago Mesa Verde (Native American cliff dwellings) had vast forest fires . they discovered about 200 undiscovered cliff dwelling's well they found drawings carved in the walls that were clearly of dinosaurs. Which scientists still claim are billions of trillions of billions years old, LOl.. My theory is that they are 100 year's older than they think. Let them try to prove that! . All i know for fact is that God exists and none of us are Him...
 
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1christian1 said:
What do you think Jesus meant by " I am the way the truth and the life." May I ask what bible you have?
People have so many interpretation's of what Jesus meant as a metaphor. And what He meant as literal.
Like "The Last Supper" "This IS my body, which has been given up for you, Take and eat of it" I take that as literal. What do you think?
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Sorry Gary, "He broke the Bread" and said to his Disciples "eat of this" better? lol...
 
Magenta

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1christian1 said:
Was Noah Jewish? and all the people killed? Were they from all parts of the world? If so, how did they get the word? Did Noah load dinosaurs in his Yacht as well? About 20 year's ago Mesa Verde (Native American cliff dwellings) had vast forest fires . they discovered about 200 undiscovered cliff dwelling's well they found drawings carved in the walls that were clearly of dinosaurs. Which scientists still claim are billions of trillions of billions years old, LOl.. My theory is that they are 100 year's older than they think. Let them try to prove that! . All i know for fact is that God exists and none of us are Him...
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I missed this earlier, sorry!

None of us are Him but Jesus is, right? And He said the only way to the Father was through Him. Right?

It is a simple yes or no answer, really. . .

As to Noah's ethnicity, Jews did not yet exist.
 
1christian1

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Magenta said:
I missed this earlier, sorry!

None of us are Him but Jesus is, right? And He said the only way to the Father was through Him. Right?
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Jesus is in Heaven with our Holy Father as one right? We do agree on this. That They are one and have been for 2020 year's. The apostles Did'nt break ground in the Muslim world before they were killed. So I don't think that condemning another culture for not having our knowledge of Christ is the way to go being as
the vast majority are poor and pray to God 3 times a day for God to deliver them away from the evil in the lives that they are living. They don't pray that America falls.They are poor . The only thing they know about America is what they here from their family that lives here. And it's always good new's they are driving a cab or a convenience store. They are not living on dirt floors anymore LOL... My point being. I think that people are always praying for a happy life. A life where as they don't have to hear bomb's flying over head
and they have no idea why. Jesus my have brought me back to him by the "book" ( trials and tribulations,kicking and screaming lol,) Unlike you , I can't express myself as well as you. Jesus gave me a different perspective on life. To look at people as people. who they are has nothing to do with where they come from. Needless to say. I've learned a lot. As I had mentioned I will never stop listening to wise people.
LOL...
 
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1christian1 said:
Jesus is in Heaven with our Holy Father as one right? We do agree on this. That They are one and have been for 2020 year's. The apostles Did'nt break ground in the Muslim world before they were killed. So I don't think that condemning another culture for not having our knowledge of Christ is the way to go being as
the vast majority are poor and pray to God 3 times a day for God to deliver them away from the evil in the lives that they are living. They don't pray that America falls.They are poor . The only thing they know about America is what they here from their family that lives here. And it's always good new's they are driving a cab or a convenience store. They are not living on dirt floors anymore LOL... My point being. I think that people are always praying for a happy life. A life where as they don't have to hear bomb's flying over head
and they have no idea why. Jesus my have brought me back to him by the "book" ( trials and tribulations,kicking and screaming lol,) Unlike you , I can't express myself as well as you. Jesus gave me a different perspective on life. To look at people as people. who they are has nothing to do with where they come from. Needless to say. I've learned a lot. As I had mentioned I will never stop listening to wise people.
LOL...
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Thank you for the compliment, though I actually struggle to express myself unless it just pours out of me LOL and then look out LOL. I do hold my tongue a lot, gosh, but when it comes to Scripture I do have a passion for it and that may be God given; there are a lot of things I am unsure of, and many things I just don't discuss (rapture, anyone?) but Who Jesus is is not one of them :love: Jesus was with God in the beginning. He is the eternal Living Word of God. I am not condemning Muslims, either. We are both very fortunate to have been born into first world western countries, that is for sure. I have taken a lot of heat on this site in the past merely for telling people what Islam teaches, which is radically different than what Christianity teaches. That is all :)
 
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Magenta said:
I missed this earlier, sorry!

None of us are Him but Jesus is, right? And He said the only way to the Father was through Him. Right?

It is a simple yes or no answer, really. . .

As to Noah's ethnicity, Jews did not yet exist.
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How did the Jewish people become "His chosen people " ?
 
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Magenta said:
Thank you for the compliment, though I actually struggle to express myself unless it just pours out of me LOL and then look out LOL. I do hold my tongue a lot, gosh, but when it comes to Scripture I do have a passion for it and that may be God given; there are a lot of things I am unsure of, and many things I just don't discuss (rapture, anyone?) but Who Jesus is is not one of them :love: Jesus was with God in the beginning. He is the eternal Living Word of God. I am not condemning Muslims, either. We are both very fortunate to have been born into first world western countries, that is for sure. I have taken a lot of heat on this site in the past merely for telling people what Islam teaches, which is radically different than what Christianity teaches. That is all :)
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Like what? God is everything! How could that be a bad thing? One quarter of the world don't have the luxury of discussing this because they have no access to drinking water. This is all that matter's to them.
I know that because of Christians it's not one third of the world. This makes sense to me.These are the things that Christians do .Right? We American's have it so well. That's all...
 
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1christian1 said:
Like what? God is everything! How could that be a bad thing? One quarter of the world don't have the luxury of discussing this because they have no access to drinking water. This is all that matter's to them.
I know that because of Christians it's not one third of the world. This makes sense to me.These are the things that Christians do .Right? We American's have it so well. That's all...
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Like it is ok to lie for the cause of the spread of Islam; that it is okay to beat your wife/wives (they are allowed four, though Mohammed had at least a dozen including a six year old); that killing your enemy (that is Christians and Jews as well as non-believers, but especially "people of the book") is commanded over a hundred times in the Quran; that murdering along with suicide for the cause of jihad is the only assurance of salvation they have; that paradise promises sexually perversity for men; that they are not allowed to depart the faith on pain of death; that the hero of their faith is an adulterous war-mongering pedophile, who promoted the lie that is being repeated to this day that Islam is a religion of peace.

When you discuss your beliefs with your Muslim friends, do any of these things from their teachings come up? I realize many Muslims attempt to escape the socio-political choke-hold Islam wishes to impose on them in controlling every aspect of their lives (prayer 5 times a day, by the way), and that many Christians do not live up to the standards we are held to either, but there is a big difference between being commanded to kill your enemy versus being commanded to love them. If they do not believe what their book teaches, why do they call themselves Muslim? Even if they had water, do you think the caliphate would allow them unfettered internet access? The caliphates' view of the western world is like Jeremiahscup LOL. Their leadership has not hid the fact that they wish to infiltrate and destroy America from within, and people are so deceived about this that they are not only allowing it to happen, they are supporting it. You say you love America and will fight to your dying breath to defend it. How can you do that if you do not know the truth about America's enemies?
 
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1christian1 said:
Are there two popes?
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Even the Catholic Church knows that there are two popes. The Black Pope is the "Superior General" of the Jesuits (not because he is black but because he wears black). Chances are that he wields more power than the regular pope, since the Jesuits are are militant arm of the Catholic Church.

Regardless, the Protestant Reformers were mistaken in identifying the pope with the Antichrist. However this false idea continues to hold sway among those who have a false eschatology. A future pope will probably ally himself with the Antichrist.
 
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1christian1 said:
How did the Jewish people become "His chosen people " ?
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Through Abraham. Interestingly enough, Abraham and Sarah's first child (Ishmael) is the forefather of Mohammed and the reason why Mohammed believed he was the final prophet and above Jesus. Ignoring what Scripture actually says, Islam claims Ishmael is the child of promise instead of Isaac - Isaac through whose descendants Jesus came. Meanwhile, God calls Isaac Abraham's only son more than once. Isaac was the child promised and born to previously barren Sarah when she was well past child bearing years @ ninety years old and Abe around a hundred. Instead of them waiting for God to fulfill His promise to them, they took matters into their own hands and barren Sarah had Abe have intercourse with Hagar who was her servant, and Ishmael was the result over a dozen years before Isaac was born to Sarah.
 
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Magenta said:
Like it is ok to lie for the cause of the spread of Islam; that it is okay to beat your wife/wives (they are allowed four, though Mohammed had at least a dozen including a six year old); that killing your enemy (that is Christians and Jews as well as non-believers, but especially "people of the book") is commanded over a hundred times in the Quran; that murdering along with suicide for the cause of jihad is the only assurance of salvation they have; that paradise promises sexually perversity for men; that they are not allowed to depart the faith on pain of death; that the hero of their faith is an adulterous war-mongering pedophile, who promoted the lie that is being repeated to this day that Islam is a religion of peace.

When you discuss your beliefs with your Muslim friends, do any of these things from their teachings come up? I realize many Muslims attempt to escape the socio-political choke-hold Islam wishes to impose on them in controlling every aspect of their lives (prayer 5 times a day, by the way), and that many Christians do not live up to the standards we are held to either, but there is a big difference between being commanded to kill your enemy versus being commanded to love them. If they do not believe what their book teaches, why do they call themselves Muslim? Even if they had water, do you think the caliphate would allow them unfettered internet access? The caliphates' view of the western world is like Jeremiahscup LOL. Their leadership has not hid the fact that they wish to infiltrate and destroy America from within, and people are so deceived about this that they are not only allowing it to happen, they are supporting it. You say you love America and will fight to your dying breath to defend it. How can you do that if you do not know the truth about America's enemies?
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I was only talking about the other 95% of their country that loves God...
 
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Magenta said:
The queen would have to reign until the age of 98 to top King Louis XIV's reign :) Yes, he was French but his is the longest European monarchical reign :) (As opposed to just British reign ;))
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I have to admit my knowledge of European History is patchy to say the least. However i have just purchased a copy of American History for Dummies! I think I fit into that category lol. I suggest some people on site may find the British history in the series enlightening.
 
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tanakh said:
I have to admit my knowledge of European History is patchy to say the least. However i have just purchased a copy of American History for Dummies! I think I fit into that category lol. I suggest some people on site may find the British history in the series enlightening.
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History has not been a strong suit for me, either, but I have watched a lot of dramatizations of history as it regards the power struggles within the monarchist families to rule the masses. It is fascinating from a historical standpoint because they highlight on many levels the ongoing plight of the human condition and the influence of the church, too, especially in days gone by (meaning I am not interested in the gossipy modern day goings-on within the current British monarchy that fill many newspapers). I saw one a while back about King Alfred the Great's reign of around a thousand years ago. Of course much was added in the fictionalization, but the historical facts were well represented within the narrative, which I check through research as I am watching. Gosh darn it all, there are just so many of them (kings and queens) LOL, and it can get confusing over the long periods of time depicted with the repetition of names and so many countries on the playing field. Still I persist. I am far more interested in history now than I was in my youth :D
 
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Bereshith said:
Actually it is aetheism through communism that has killed the most.

"100 Years of Communism—and 100 Million Dead

The Bolshevik plague that began in Russia was the greatest catastrophe in human history.

By David Satter. Nov. 6, 2017
Source: www.wsj.com/amp/articles/100-years-of-communismand-100-million-dead-1510011810
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Yes. Though the conversation you are quoting from was about whether or not Jesus is the only way to God, so atheism was not being discussed, or even who has killed the most... what has prompted the murdering on such a grand scale is relevant when the question concerns God's existence and whether or not all who lay claim to God are actually following the same God/god.
 
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