Antisexuality

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williamfinch

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"And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham." - Matthew 3:9, King James Bible

Sexuality is disgusting where I live, because of its unsolicited and highly promoted nature. I was on the train today, and saw two advertisements pertaining to marriage and dating. There are some people who'd be killed by hate gangs for dating. Some people can't even legally marry, where I live.

I like air. Air is all around us, naturally. Air is beneficial. Nobody needs to coerce the distribution of air.

Sex is all around me, but I'm not sure if it's natural. Even if it's natural, that does not mean that it is acceptable or morally correct. Some people can't have sex without breaking religious laws. Sex spreads disease. Nobody would easily voluntarily engage in an activity that spreads disease. Naturally, some people probably would not want sex nor have sex: I am a virgin.

So sex is still all around me, but through somewhat artificial means. Someone had put the romantic sexual advertisements of dating and marriage on the train. Those advertisements didn't spawn naturally. My city gives marriage benefits. There are sexual restrictions to marriage. That connection between marriage and sex proves that marriage is sexual where I live, even because a husband (who can't have sex with other women) would then be very pressured to have sex with his wife due to the local romantic sexual promotion. I've even heard of the term, "maritial rape."

The only good thing of sex is a child. But even a mother can die during labor or childbirth. A baby can die or be unhealthy upon delivery. Or a child can grow to kill his parents, even though christianity tries to prevent this. So there is only a very small likely benefit to sex, a human experiement, in comparison to its many dangers.

Sex is naturally dangerous and bad. And yet for the sake of sowing and reaping children, some societies promote sexuality. They allow romantic sexual advertisements on trains. They give benefits to romantic sexual couples who can produce kids. They teach unsatisfactory sexual education too late, especially knowing that rape and sex crimes are a huge issue for women in a neighborhood. Some societies want people to have sex so that their chldren can be used for armies, labor forces, and materials; and don't care if women die during childbirth or a wild rapist is loss. Even some businesses profit from sex too, through prostitution or romantic sexual advertisements; because some men are victims to lust and have weak self-control.

And that is why I feel that sexuality is disgusting. Luckily I'm strengthening my self control so that I won't be abused by neither societies nor businesses. I can adopt a child to help secure my future: I don't need to have sex.

Christians know that only the Almighty has the true power to grant life. Some societies count populations and encourage sex, to grow and maintain populations. But the Almighty can create human life from stones. And societies, who depend on sex and men, will soon be counting the ever-plagues of the Almighty.
 

Mii

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Why do you think the Lord created them male and female? How did you get here?

It's not ALL bad, but in a fallen world and the way being narrow (unto salvation) of course bad can easily be seen everywhere.

If you are called to chastity (and some are) great! To be free of sexual distractions and tensions is surely a gift. However, I don't think the Lord's view on Holy matrimony is "disgusting" and great care must be taken not to have our perceptions warped by the enemy just because there is so much darkness around us. Notice Jesus didn't forbid marriage at all, he just took adultery one step further and what purity is.

We are to submit flesh and walk in newness of life. We aren't supposed to be disembodied spirits floating around at present.

A similar view could be had about voiding our bowels or urination. Can you stop these processes? Can they spread disease?

Guard your view. There is a purity in chastity and virginity, but it can also lead to extreme warping if not careful. I see sex as a fleshly act yes, but so also do I see many of my natural processes as such. A particular format IS laid down within scripture on marital relations, it is narrow (like I alluded to before).

Adoption is great. I can see myself doing that for unloved children as well, or at least helping out in ministries that provide such care if I am to remain unmarried.



Living in an oversexualized culture can create some twistings of the purity of marriage. In seeing all sex as dirty and disgusting because we are surrounded by a mockery of what the Lord designed. So just be careful and pray about it. There were Eunuchs & virgins in scripture until their death that were blessed but so there also were MANY married men and women. Neither can state for another what is and is not holy except what is contrary to the word. Even Paul didn't "forbid" marriage, just cautioned. It can be a distraction, but so can your natural impulses constantly pulling you away from the Lord. He knows each one of us and what we need and he will provide :)
 

Lynx

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Aug 13, 2014
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Yeah williamfinch, I know... nobody wants to think about it. :eek:




"There's still a chance you were conceived via IVF. But we've checked your mom's college yearbook photos, and whether or not she and your father had sex, it's clear that... listen, I know this is hard for you."
 

Lynx

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By the way, why is this in the conspiracy forum? The government is conspiring to increase reproduction?

Doesn't that directly contradict the conspiracy theory that the government puts something in drinking water that DECREASED birth rates?

Oh well... contradictory conspiracy theories have never been a problem before. The same person can believe conspiracy theories that contradict each other, and apparently not see anything wrong with it.

 
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#5
"And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham." - Matthew 3:9, King James Bible

Sexuality is disgusting where I live, because of its unsolicited and highly promoted nature. I was on the train today, and saw two advertisements pertaining to marriage and dating. There are some people who'd be killed by hate gangs for dating. Some people can't even legally marry, where I live.

I like air. Air is all around us, naturally. Air is beneficial. Nobody needs to coerce the distribution of air.

Sex is all around me, but I'm not sure if it's natural. Even if it's natural, that does not mean that it is acceptable or morally correct. Some people can't have sex without breaking religious laws. Sex spreads disease. Nobody would easily voluntarily engage in an activity that spreads disease. Naturally, some people probably would not want sex nor have sex: I am a virgin.

So sex is still all around me, but through somewhat artificial means. Someone had put the romantic sexual advertisements of dating and marriage on the train. Those advertisements didn't spawn naturally. My city gives marriage benefits. There are sexual restrictions to marriage. That connection between marriage and sex proves that marriage is sexual where I live, even because a husband (who can't have sex with other women) would then be very pressured to have sex with his wife due to the local romantic sexual promotion. I've even heard of the term, "maritial rape."

The only good thing of sex is a child. But even a mother can die during labor or childbirth. A baby can die or be unhealthy upon delivery. Or a child can grow to kill his parents, even though christianity tries to prevent this. So there is only a very small likely benefit to sex, a human experiement, in comparison to its many dangers.

Sex is naturally dangerous and bad. And yet for the sake of sowing and reaping children, some societies promote sexuality. They allow romantic sexual advertisements on trains. They give benefits to romantic sexual couples who can produce kids. They teach unsatisfactory sexual education too late, especially knowing that rape and sex crimes are a huge issue for women in a neighborhood. Some societies want people to have sex so that their chldren can be used for armies, labor forces, and materials; and don't care if women die during childbirth or a wild rapist is loss. Even some businesses profit from sex too, through prostitution or romantic sexual advertisements; because some men are victims to lust and have weak self-control.

And that is why I feel that sexuality is disgusting. Luckily I'm strengthening my self control so that I won't be abused by neither societies nor businesses. I can adopt a child to help secure my future: I don't need to have sex.

Christians know that only the Almighty has the true power to grant life. Some societies count populations and encourage sex, to grow and maintain populations. But the Almighty can create human life from stones. And societies, who depend on sex and men, will soon be counting the ever-plagues of the Almighty.

1 Corinthians 7:27 King James Version (KJV)

27 Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to be loosed. Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife.


To not have the need and abstaining from Sex will help with growing your relationship with Elohim/God and, thereby, increasing your Spiritual Power. Yeshua/Jesus, John the Baptist and Paul are Celebate Giants.

If you can bear to have Sex, it must be between mature married Man and Woman and for procreation only. The Satanic Freemasons, aka Knights Templars, has 7.7 Billion people under a Mind Control Spell, with Recreational, Free and Dirty Sex.
 

Lynx

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The Satanic Freemasons, aka Knights Templars, has 7.7 Billion people under a Mind Control Spell, with Recreational, Free and Dirty Sex.
Are they related to the illuminati? Do they know they are working directly against the illuminati's efforts? Somebody needs to hold a Conspiracy Conference and get everything straightened out so they can get their conspiracies in sync and stop undermining each other.
 

OneOfHis

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Oh goodness... a couple man made terms and rules not of God or found in scripture have been posted here.....


For any sappling out there, 1 man, 1 woman, in marriage. Knowing your husband or wife is not a bad thing. 🙄

You can enjoy your physical relationship with your other half just fine wether or not you desire to have a child.... If you are God's child and for some reason did have a desire that was not ok, He would make it known in your life and you would hear His voice.... you don't need some guru to mix and match out of context verses with some poorly thought out commentary to tell you what is ok in your marriage under God. The truth is in His word, dont add to and if you have a question that you can't find in there, He will reveal it to you another way....


People with hole-y doctrine opposed to Holy doctrine often add a bunch of rules and regulations as if it makes them feel more righteous....
 

Mii

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has 7.7 Billion people under a Mind Control Spell
With respect...they way is narrow. It isn't non-existent. Obviously the enemy is at work in some rather sinister ways but scientifically your brain releases oxytocin through intercourse, which feels good to MANY people. Same thing with food.

It is not inconceivable that the design was pleasure as a by-product. Not solely for mind you. I can't state personally for "relations" but for food at least it isn't wrong to enjoy the taste or spruce up a bland dish in order to take care of your temple.

If a dish is unpalatable and you can't force yourself to eat it. Maximizing what tastes good as an avenue for nutrition isn't unwholesome. I presume the same can be said for married activities, although I'm not going to try and be specific about that.


It would be a hard argument that recreation in general is unscriptural unless it is specified as sin. A good bit of recreation these days can fall under idolatry so ofc that must factor in to any recreation.


To be sure things that hijack natural systems and abuse them are to be condemned. An example of this would be super sugars in modern candy or processed foods. Yes they taste good, but they do not serve your overall health well. Certainly there are tasty healthy options that may not compare for someone that doesn't recognize that poor diet = poor health = maladies

Since it is food, I'm not saying it's "sinful" generally speaking (unless that's what your walk looks like) but that such things should be avoided for good stewardship.

This angle seems as though it could easily apply to sexuality within scriptural boundaries.
 

EleventhHour

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By the way, why is this in the conspiracy forum? The government is conspiring to increase reproduction?

Doesn't that directly contradict the conspiracy theory that the government puts something in drinking water that DECREASED birth rates?

Oh well... contradictory conspiracy theories have never been a problem before. The same person can believe conspiracy theories that contradict each other, and apparently not see anything wrong with it.

It is a fact that there is synthetic estrogen which exists in our water ... EE2 which in not typically tested for....the birth control pill adds 10 million doses of estrogen into our water every day...some of which ends up in tap water.
 

EleventhHour

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Oh goodness... a couple man made terms and rules not of God or found in scripture have been posted here.....


For any sappling out there, 1 man, 1 woman, in marriage. Knowing your husband or wife is not a bad thing. 🙄

You can enjoy your physical relationship with your other half just fine wether or not you desire to have a child.... If you are God's child and for some reason did have a desire that was not ok, He would make it known in your life and you would hear His voice.... you don't need some guru to mix and match out of context verses with some poorly thought out commentary to tell you what is ok in your marriage under God. The truth is in His word, dont add to and if you have a question that you can't find in there, He will reveal it to you another way....


People with hole-y doctrine opposed to Holy doctrine often add a bunch of rules and regulations as if it makes them feel more righteous....
Would you agree though, that the birth control pill as a third measure of pregnancy prevention acts as abortificent?
 

OneOfHis

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Would you agree though, that the birth control pill as a third measure of pregnancy prevention acts as abortificent?

Ehhh once you start talking about drugs thats completely a different subject.

To call something "abortificent" or "abortifacient" I would need proof it causes abortion. (the death of a child living in the womb at ANY stage... even 1 hour old would qualify whatver caused that death as abortifacient)


Maybe birth control falls into that catagory.
I have never looked into it or even held a ladies hand as a Christian.

I also wouldn't consider asking my future wife to take a pill.
God would bless us with a beautiful child or He would bless us with extra time and energy.


My point that it is 100% ok for man and wife to be intimate regardless of wether or not it is for the cause of bringing a little one into this world to raise up....
 
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Isaiah 28:15 King James Version (KJV)

15 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:



We are not ignorant of Satan's/Devil's devices!


Aleister Crowley - Bio
 

EleventhHour

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Ehhh once you start talking about drugs thats completely a different subject.

To call something "abortificent" or "abortifacient" I would need proof it causes abortion. (the death of a child living in the womb at ANY stage... even 1 hour old would qualify whatver caused that death as abortifacient)


Maybe birth control falls into that catagory.
I have never looked into it or even held a ladies hand as a Christian.

I also wouldn't consider asking my future wife to take a pill.
God would bless us with a beautiful child or He would bless us with extra time and energy.


My point that it is 100% ok for man and wife to be intimate regardless of wether or not it is for the cause of bringing a little one into this world to raise up....
And yes there is proof the birth control pill acts a abortificant.
Completely agree with everything you have written.....well said. :)
 

EleventhHour

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Isaiah 28:15 King James Version (KJV)

15 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:


We are not ignorant of Satan's/Devil's devices!


Aleister Crowley - Bio
Yes Aleister Crowley was lost in evil and depravity..... and I am this video only scratches the surface of that depravity.
 

Dino246

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Isaiah 28:15 King James Version (KJV)

15 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:


We are not ignorant of Satan's/Devil's devices!


Aleister Crowley - Bio
Let's try to be relevant to the thread subject, shall we?
 

Dino246

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I notice that the OP dropped a bomb and hasn't returned to discuss the subject.

That's classic troll behaviour.
 

EleventhHour

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Yes Aleister Crowley was lost in evil and depravity..... and I am this video only scratches the surface of that depravity.
Well he did practise sex magik does that make it relevant:unsure:

Probably not .....okay I will go away now
 

NotmebutHim

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I notice that the OP dropped a bomb and hasn't returned to discuss the subject.

That's classic troll behaviour.
Or, while they may not necessarily drop or throw any "bombs", they introduce themselves and then don't return to engage in any conversations. Which has happened a few times recently........... :cautious::p:cool:
 

Dino246

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Well he did practise sex magik does that make it relevant:unsure:

Probably not .....okay I will go away now
No... don't go away. We need all the sanity we can get around here.

Well... I need it, anyway. ;)