Global warming or upcoming ice age

[Fundaamental]

That works out to about 10 grams of oil per square foot of surface area for the earth. That might work out to a film 1mm thick. So even if you replace a good insulator that is 1mm thick with one that is less good, the earth's crust is 9-12 miles thick. That means the insulation of the Earth's crust, even if all that you have said is true is 99.999999999999995% of what it was.

im not talking about the coverage of the whole earth lol, im talking about areas that where excessive mining has taken place,

Theese aereas have recorded temperature increase at land level and atmosphere temperate increases of 4.5 c well over the 1.5c feared marker, as a result of taking gas oil or coal out of of different aerea, the water filled theese holes and extracted afterwards and was unusually warm,


That means more heat was escaping after they removed the oil from theese aereas, which scientists believe has caused a lot more heat spots around the world, other than volcanoes.

 

[Fundaamental]

Unprecedented

Ocean Temperatures in Florida soaring to 90 degrees Fahrenheit.

coral reefs in critical condition

severe hurricane season on the horizon

 

[Magenta]

Increased ocean temperatures and changing ocean chemistry are the greatest global threats to
coral reef ecosystems. Over 50 percent of the world's coral reefs have died in the last 30 years
and up to 90 percent may die within the next century—very few pristine coral reefs still exist.
The impact of our changing climate on coral reefs was manifested by the third global bleaching
event in 2015/16. Pollution, over fishing, destructive fishing practices using dynamite or cyanide,
collecting live corals for the aquarium market, mining coral for building materials, and a warming
climate are some of the many ways that people damage reefs all around the world every day.

 

[Fundaamental]

Increased ocean temperatures and changing ocean chemistry are the greatest global threats to
coral reef ecosystems. Over 50 percent of the world's coral reefs have died in the last 30 years
and up to 90 percent may die within the next century—very few pristine coral reefs still exist.
The impact of our changing climate on coral reefs was manifested by the third global bleaching
event in 2015/16. Pollution, over fishing, destructive fishing practices using dynamite or cyanide,
collecting live corals for the aquarium market, mining coral for building materials, and a warming
climate are some of the many ways that people damage reefs all around the world every day.

It's pretty bad right now, I just ready another article if Florida goes the same next year with temps and the year after that could be it for Florida's corals

As they need a year to recover from to hotter waters

 

[ZNP]

im not talking about the coverage of the whole earth lol, im talking about areas that where excessive mining has taken place,

Theese aereas have recorded temperature increase at land level and atmosphere temperate increases of 4.5 c well over the 1.5c feared marker, as a result of taking gas oil or coal out of of different aerea, the water filled theese holes and extracted afterwards and was unusually warm,


That means more heat was escaping after they removed the oil from theese aereas, which scientists believe has caused a lot more heat spots around the world, other than volcanoes.

it doesn't matter, even if "excessive mining" has taken place is some areas they amount to 0.0000000000001% of Earth's surface. Do the math, it is not enough to be significant.

What scares me is not that this theory is easy to debunk but that someone is floating theories like this in order to distract and confuse from whatever the real issue is.

Also remember this in no way addresses the Earth's axis of rotation beginning to wobble dramatically. That would have a much bigger impact on wild weather than this insignificant change. Nor does it have any impact on the weakening of the magnetic field which would also allow more of the sun's rays to hit the earth and would therefore have a much bigger impact than this trivial change in insulative value between water and oil.

 

[Fundaamental]

it doesn't matter, even if "excessive mining" has taken place is some areas they amount to 0.0000000000001% of Earth's surface. Do the math, it is not enough to be significant.

What scares me is not that this theory is easy to debunk but that someone is floating theories like this in order to distract and confuse from whatever the real issue is.

Also remember this in no way addresses the Earth's axis of rotation beginning to wobble dramatically. That would have a much bigger impact on wild weather than this insignificant change. Nor does it have any impact on the weakening of the magnetic field which would also allow more of the sun's rays to hit the earth and would therefore have a much bigger impact than this trivial change in insulative value between water and oil.

I'm puzzled by your reasoning here 🤔

I'm talking about underground resoivoirs like underground rivers or lakes or huge beds of oil coal or gas that it has been extracted the land service has been recorded as higher. Even increasing atmospheric temperatures.

 

[Fundaamental]

https://californiapolicycenter.org/...shown on the chart,year supply of natural gas.



As shown on the chart, in 2020 174 exajoules of oil was burned, with 10,596 exajoules remaining – a 61 year supply. Also shown on the chart, as of 2020, and at current rates of consumption, there is a 208 year supply of worldwide coal reserves, and a 50 year supply of natural gas.

 

[ZNP]

I'm puzzled by your reasoning here 🤔

I'm talking about underground resoivoirs like underground rivers or lakes or huge beds of oil coal or gas that it has been extracted the land service has been recorded as higher. Even increasing atmospheric temperatures.

My reasoning is simple, what you are calling "huge" are insignificant in size when compared to the total size of Earth's crust. You are removing an insignificant amount of "insulation" that might have a rating of 6 and replacing that tiny amount with insulation that has a rating of 3.

What has become abundantly clear is that carbon in the atmosphere is acting like fertilizer so as we increase greenhouse gases in the atmosphere plants that absorb sunlight are growing faster compensating for any "heating" by absorbing more sunlight.

 

[Fundaamental]

My reasoning is simple, what you are calling "huge" are insignificant in size when compared to the total size of Earth's crust. You are removing an insignificant amount of "insulation" that might have a rating of 6 and replacing that tiny amount with insulation that has a rating of 3.

What has become abundantly clear is that carbon in the atmosphere is acting like fertilizer so as we increase greenhouse gases in the atmosphere plants that absorb sunlight are growing faster compensating for any "heating" by absorbing more sunlight.

Look at this crude oil reservoir it looks a lot deeper than 1 mm thick.



Next question how do you know if all the crude oil gas or coal that is in the earth is not used by the earth for other purposes that science doesn't fully know what that purpose is.

But there could be a few reasons

1 insulation trapping heat in heat spots of the earth.

2 over times the oil makes it way to the earths mantle for some purpose, which could be a few reasons as to why.
The crude oil is formed from organic matter over thousands of years.

3 The oil that has been burned of so far in history could have been in the ground to stabilise or aid lubrication of the earth, actually preventing huge quakes.

 

[Fundaamental]

Another concern

https://www.nature.com/articles/news040913-5

Untapped fossil-fuel reserves could be hidden deep within our planet.

Methane could be forming in Earth's mantle, US scientists have shown. The result suggests that untapped and unexpected reserves of natural gas and oil may exist deep beneath the planet's surface.

Is there any chance this oil at earths mantle has made its way down from earths service over many many thousands of years via conversion of organic matter and pressure, for a pacific reason for the earths mantle ?

 

[Fundaamental]

Unprecedented
What else is new

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/worl...kelsey-bisson-intv-072302aseg1-cnni-world.cnn

Video included in the link,
Just published

Study: Climate change could be affecting the color of Earth's oceans


A new study suggests the planet's oceans are changing color in 55% of the oceans, and it could be the result of climate change.

 

[ZNP]

Look at this crude oil reservoir it looks a lot deeper than 1 mm thick.

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Next question how do you know if all the crude oil gas or coal that is in the earth is not used by the earth for other purposes that science doesn't fully know what that purpose is.

But there could be a few reasons

1 insulation trapping heat in heat spots of the earth.

2 over times the oil makes it way to the earths mantle for some purpose, which could be a few reasons as to why.
The crude oil is formed from organic matter over thousands of years.

3 The oil that has been burned of so far in history could have been in the ground to stabilise or aid lubrication of the earth, actually preventing huge quakes.

The point I was making is that it is a pimple on the earth. You told me how many billions of tons of oil were pumped out the last year, based on that number it is similar to 1mm of oil over the entire earth.

Also that diagram is very misleading. There is no such thing as this "lake" of oil. What happens is you have a reservoir rock like sandstone and the oil is in the spaces between the grains. When you pull out the oil those voids will be filled with water.

Lubrication and insulation will also be done by the sandstone filled with water. It may not be quite as good, but again, like I said, the math doesn't lie. The amount of oil taken from the earth in a single year is so tiny, as to not make the slightest difference in insulation when viewed as the total earth's crust. Likewise with lubricating fault zones.

What this looks like to me is the same thing we saw with Fauci. Some guy sounds authoritative, tells you what to believe, and if you question him you are "questioning science". As a result real scientists are not even involved in this charade.

 

[Fundaamental]

The point I was making is that it is a pimple on the earth. You told me how many billions of tons of oil were pumped out the last year, based on that number it is similar to 1mm of oil over the entire earth.

Also that diagram is very misleading. There is no such thing as this "lake" of oil. What happens is you have a reservoir rock like sandstone and the oil is in the spaces between the grains. When you pull out the oil those voids will be filled with water.

Lubrication and insulation will also be done by the sandstone filled with water. It may not be quite as good, but again, like I said, the math doesn't lie. The amount of oil taken from the earth in a single year is so tiny, as to not make the slightest difference in insulation when viewed as the total earth's crust. Likewise with lubricating fault zones.

What this looks like to me is the same thing we saw with Fauci. Some guy sounds authoritative, tells you what to believe, and if you question him you are "questioning science". As a result real scientists are not even involved in this charade.

lol that figure was for 10 years.

It's a lot higher than that since the industrial Revolution, and the oil talked about is from certain aereas,

If you take a huge amount of oil from a certain aera you can't use that to determine what it would mean to the whole earth.. it's for that certain aerea because that's where it's formed over thousands of years from organic matter.

You have this idea it just refills,

Why do think this ? Do you think crude oil is produced from the mantle ? Or from organic matter over thousands of years ?

Do you believe as the earth rotates, oil just flows more oil like an ocean to replenish those aereas, ? America has stopped oil mining in a lot of aereas all together.

Your listening to oil pipe dreamers thinking the oil will never run out.

 

[ZNP]

lol that figure was for 10 years.

It's a lot higher than that since the industrial Revolution, and the oil talked about is from certain aereas,

If you take a huge amount of oil from a certain aera you can't use that to determine what it would mean to the whole earth.. it's for that certain aerea because that's where it's formed over thousands of years from organic matter.

You have this idea it just refills,

Why do think this ? Do you think crude oil is produced from the mantle ? Or from organic matter over thousands of years ?

Do you believe as the earth rotates, oil just flows more oil like an ocean to replenish those aereas, ? America has stopped oil mining in a lot of aereas all together.

Your listening to oil pipe dreamers thinking the oil will never run out.

Ten years? I thought it was only 1 year. The oil is recharging, but even if we multiply that number by ten, you will still get

99.9999999999995% of the insulation that you had with the oil.

 

[Fundaamental]

Ten years? I thought it was only 1 year. The oil is recharging, but even if we multiply that number by ten, you will still get

99.9999999999995% of the insulation that you had with the oil.

are you talking about this post

Rising heat
Between 2007 and 2017, 45.5 billion tonnes of oil and 36.3 billion cubic metres of natural gas were removed from the Earth’s crust. When oil and gas is extracted, the voids fill with water, which is a less effective insulator. This means more heat from the Earth’s interior can be conducted to the surface, causing the land and the ocean to temps to rise

 

[Fundaamental]

Ten years? I thought it was only 1 year. The oil is recharging,

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when you say it is recharging, are you taking into account how long it takes for crude oil to form from organic matter ?

 

[Fundaamental]

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Millions of years ago, algae and plants lived in shallow seas. After dying and sinking to the seafloor, the organic material mixed with other sediments and was buried. Over millions of years under high pressure and high temperature, the remains of these organisms transformed into what we know today as fossil fuels.

 

[ZNP]

are you talking about this post

Rising heat
Between 2007 and 2017, 45.5 billion tonnes of oil and 36.3 billion cubic metres of natural gas were removed from the Earth’s crust. When oil and gas is extracted, the voids fill with water, which is a less effective insulator. This means more heat from the Earth’s interior can be conducted to the surface, causing the land and the ocean to temps to rise

yes

 

[ZNP]

when you say it is recharging, are you taking into account how long it takes for crude oil to form from organic matter ?

that was an old theory

 

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Millions of years ago, algae and plants lived in shallow seas. After dying and sinking to the seafloor, the organic material mixed with other sediments and was buried. Over millions of years under high pressure and high temperature, the remains of these organisms transformed into what we know today as fossil fuels.

We know know that algae can form methane hydrates in the sea floor. The idea that these need to be cooked for millions of years is baseless. The sea floor is on a conveyor belt being subducted beneath huge volcanic island arcs and other zones where the oceanic crust sinks to the bottom of the earth's crust because it is denser than continental crust. Those methane hydrates are buried in the sediment at the bottom of the ocean and are put under intense pressure and temperature and it is thought that is how we get oil.

This is based on the fact that oil is percolating up from beneath the sedimentary layers that we previously thought were where oil formed.