How should a Christian view socialism?

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it's a 'good thing' on 'PAPER", but it just 'never' works out because of 'human-nature' ...
 
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But what Scripture indicates that God did not want us to have cities and what Scripture indicates that God didn't want us to have kings and presidents?
 
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This is from WWII.

Why are the claims about President Trump and his staff being fascists? It seems that the truth is most of the powerful Democrat leaders including Obama and the Clintons want their desires for big government or else.
 

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Why are the claims about President Trump and his staff being fascists? It seems that the truth is most of the powerful Democrat leaders including Obama and the Clintons want their desires for big government or else.
When the song was written FDR was pres.
 
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I was temporally banned in the Christian Forums site because a few didn't like my true Christian statements and thought I was promoting the www.box.com business. After a week, one of the leaders concluded that almost all of my statements were good and then said that I can continue posting urls to my appropriate Bible study tools. But much more persecution is ahead for us. Who will be the World Leader and where from will he rule the World in ten parts? But how will World-wide chaos and tribulation occur?
 
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When the song was written FDR was pres.
I know that. Did you know FDR did illegal commands to weapons companies before the Pearl Harbor attack? And he had secretly met with leaders to attempt to deal with Hitler diplomatically?
 

calibob

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I know that. Did you know FDR did illegal commands to weapons companies before the Pearl Harbor attack? And he had secretly met with leaders to attempt to deal with Hitler diplomatically?
I knew about the weapons deals for certain but not about trying to deal with Hitler diplomatically. When Hitler double crossed Neville Chamberlin he proved he could not be trusted so FDR took steps to prepare for the inevitable including building an island in Los Angeles harbor on which to build war ships.

Unfortunately we learned the hard way that ships without air support were nearly worthless against fighter bombers. That's why we changed tactics in '42.
 
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I knew about the weapons deals for certain but not about trying to deal with Hitler diplomatically. When Hitler double crossed Neville Chamberlin he proved he could not be trusted so FDR took steps to prepare for the inevitable including building an island in Los Angeles harbor on which to build war ships.

Unfortunately we learned the hard way that ships without air support were nearly worthless against fighter bombers. That's why we changed tactics in '42.
The top Admiral in Pearl Harbor suddenly went away. My Uncle Val was a radioman on the ship that was 3 hours late from being next to the Arizona. His wife and 2 daughters were on the island and saw an elderly man on a beach machine gunned by a Japanese pilot. But later Val forgave the Japanese when his research showed that Toyota made the best economy cars and he bought one and convinced my Mom to do the same. She was one of the first Waves (females in the Navy).
 
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Will the Republic of the United State be restored or will the Socialists take over most of the governments in the USA or will Jesus Christ return according to 1 Corinthians 15 or will the USA be destroyed?

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My uncle Will was on the USS Missouri. When Japan surrendered. I was a mechanic about 20 years and I love Toyotas.
 

calibob

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Will the Republic of the United State be restored or will the Socialists take over most of the governments in the USA or will Jesus Christ return according to 1 Corinthians 15 or will the USA be destroyed?

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God grant me the serenity to accept the things that I cannot change.
 
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God grant me the serenity to accept the things that I cannot change.
And "Que sera, sera" works to even if you don't sing it. But we should be praying for all of our Federal Government and Christian leaders. So many are not pleasing God at all.
 

calibob

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And "Que sera, sera" works to even if you don't sing it. But we should be praying for all of our Federal Government and Christian leaders. So many are not pleasing God at all.
I honestly think North America especially the USA and Canada will be destroyed in the first volley when the Great tribulation starts leaving our troops abroad without a nation. They will become like pirates and do the bidding of what ever nation makes the best offer. If the rapture also happens within this time frame there will be no one left that will even try to stop it. So all of us will either be killed or taken away from the carnage to follow. I even suspect the USA to be the great prostitute and the lake of fire to be the Yellowstone caldera. We as a nation, not as individuals, deserve it for defending homosexuality, abortion, cults, Idolatry and Satanism while prohibiting prayer in schools and promoting science over God.

I feel and have felt for decades the USA IS DOOMED. Thus I believe the most valuable thing we can do for God is teach the word and help get people saved now while we have a chance. I could be all wrong but no harm done in helping people to get saved. Life as we understand it now is only temporary. Heaven and hell are permanent! That's all I care to share. The prophecies cannot be changed. I do not care to try. God is not mocked and Jesus never lies.
 
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I honestly think North America especially the USA and Canada will be destroyed in the first volley when the Great tribulation starts leaving our troops abroad without a nation. They will become like pirates and do the bidding of what ever nation makes the best offer. If the rapture also happens within this time frame there will be no one left that will even try to stop it. So all of us will either be killed or taken away from the carnage to follow. I even suspect the USA to be the great prostitute and the lake of fire to be the Yellowstone caldera. We as a nation, not as individuals, deserve it for defending homosexuality, abortion, cults, Idolatry and Satanism while prohibiting prayer in schools and promoting science over God.

I feel and have felt for decades the USA IS DOOMED. Thus I believe the most valuable thing we can do for God is teach the word and help get people saved now while we have a chance. I could be all wrong but no harm done in helping people to get saved. Life as we understand it now is only temporary. Heaven and hell are permanent! That's all I care to share. The prophecies cannot be changed. I do not care to try. God is not mocked and Jesus never lies.
Revelations tells us 1/3 of the earthis destroyed by fire from heaven. I believe this is north and south america. And it quite possibly from an all out nuclear attack from Russia or China..
 
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"How should a Christian view socialism?"
Nice write up on Marxism. I was surprised to learn that he did actually seem to get a few things right.

I think his solutions were incorrect because he ignored the wisdom of God. Instead of making it class war (land-owners against the landless), the solution was/is to ensure that everyone has the right to land ownership - there is plenty of it, afterall.

I think it is also likely true that many false religions (and even corrupted clergy) probably do exist to empower and serve the rich and empire.
 

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he rat of the circus mouse? if someone picks a name like that you know they got some style, and a screw loose.
 
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Nice write up on Marxism. I was surprised to learn that he did actually seem to get a few things right.

I think his solutions were incorrect because he ignored the wisdom of God. Instead of making it class war (land-owners against the landless), the solution was/is to ensure that everyone has the right to land ownership - there is plenty of it, afterall.

I think it is also likely true that many false religions (and even corrupted clergy) probably do exist to empower and serve the rich and empire.

***The author is my spiritual twin who was from Holland before moving to South Africa about 30 years ago. He is not a denominationalist. He just does all he can to share God's Wonderful Truths. What are you doing for the Great Commission?
 
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I am not even going to read any of this after the original post. This is what is biblical -- pray for your leaders, elected or otherwise. obey the laws of your land unless those laws conflict with the instruction of the Holy Spirit (i.e. false worship, stoning of homosexuals). love your neighbour as yourself.

thats it.

not go to war, fight for freedom, etc etc etc. No. Doesnt even say go to protests. You are a child in Gods kingdom. Gods kingdom is nowehere on earth, but definitely respects the laws of all earthly nations. Except, as stated, that which contradicts the bible.