How to prove that the Earth is flat, and not a sphere...

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Burninglight

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During June and the summer months the sun and moon orbit the yellow circle:


If you are near the center of this circle you will see the sun revolve all day until it moves further away, and eventually when it is at the orange line you it will be continuous night/darkness because the sun is too far away.

This corresponds with this: In Svalbard, Norway, the northernmost inhabited region of Europe, there is no sunset from approximately 19 April to 23 August, and no sunrise between November 14 and January 29.
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On a round earth an airplane could take off in any direction, fly in a straight line and eventually come back to the place of origin. This has been done many times. On a flat earth the airplane would eventually fly out into space or crash into the so-called 'protective dome'.

On a flat earth the distance between the two farthest points would be over 3 times greater than on a round earth yet an airplane could cover the same distance flying at the same speed in 1/3 less time. This too has been verified and happens every day.
 
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On a round earth an airplane could take off in any direction, fly in a straight line and eventually come back to the place of origin. This has been done many times. On a flat earth the airplane would eventually fly out into space or crash into the so-called 'protective dome'.

On a flat earth the distance between the two farthest points would be over 3 times greater than on a round earth yet an airplane could cover the same distance flying at the same speed in 1/3 less time. This too has been verified and happens every day.
It could be that they are doing a 360 degree around the circle of the earth ending up in the same place. it would always appear to be going in a straight line. You cannot prove the earth is a sphere; I trust the Scriptures more than man's lies.
 

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It could be that they are doing a 360 degree around the circle of the earth ending up in the same place. it would always appear to be going in a straight line. You cannot prove the earth is a sphere; I trust the Scriptures more than man's lies.
That's exactly what is happening, the plane is doing 360 degrees around the earth ending up where it started from. Can't do that on a flat earth. This has been done many times proving the earth is a sphere.
 
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That's exactly what is happening, the plane is doing 360 degrees around the earth ending up where it started from. Can't do that on a flat earth. This has been done many times proving the earth is a sphere.
I assure you can make a 360 degree on a flat surface,. What do you think the sun and moon are doing on the geocentric system of the earth. You can even try the experiment with your car (if you drive) in a huge open empty car lot, lol, Drive in a circle, and you'll have just done a 360 ending up where exactly where you started if you can drive consistent.
 
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I think you need to go down to the beach and watch the 'tide-roll-in'...:)
 

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During June and the summer months the sun and moon orbit the yellow circle:


If you are near the center of this circle you will see the sun revolve all day until it moves further away, and eventually when it is at the orange line you it will be continuous night/darkness because the sun is too far away.

This corresponds with this: In Svalbard, Norway, the northernmost inhabited region of Europe, there is no sunset from approximately 19 April to 23 August, and no sunrise between November 14 and January 29.


you got serious problems.

why don't you even notice them?


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posthuman

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yet at the same time,

Svalbard is perpetually sunlit during summer, and it's much further than the distance from an arbitrarily point on the map in California is from the sun at sunset.

there are only two explanations, really only one explanation:

(1) in California the sun actually rises and sets in the north, not in the south-east or south-west.

this is obviously not true and any number of hundreds of millions of people can easily attest to the fact that it's not.
but that's the only way to reconcile this fake diagram with observed reality.

which leads to the second explanation:

(2) the flat-earth-religion is demonstrably absolute hogwash.

which is really the only explanation, since the alternative is obvious hogwash.


tell you what, though, we got some really clean pigs in this thread -- seeing how much hog-washing is going on
so there's that, anyway . . .


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posthuman

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You incorrectly portray flat earth theory and then dismiss and criticize it. Go ahead, but it's not proof/evidence of anything at all.
your'e wrong, buddy.
i am correctly portraying flat-earth nonsense ((a theory is backed up by evidence & reason, which this is not)) as incorrect, according to its own so-called-maps and so-called-explanations.


at least i know how to read a diagram and do math.

you don't even understand your own arguments, or your own pictures.
 
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your'e wrong, buddy.
i am correctly portraying flat-earth nonsense ((a theory is backed up by evidence & reason, which this is not)) as incorrect, according to its own so-called-maps and so-called-explanations.


at least i know how to read a diagram and do math.

you don't even understand your own arguments, or your own pictures.
You claim you are correctly portraying it and then give no supporting evidence or an explanation. Then you tell me I am incorrect for thinking you are.

This is meaningless. You are wrong.

On top of this, you never even explain why the falsely portrayed angles are incorrect, you just declare they are.
 
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posthuman

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You drew the line wrong, the sunset doesn't occur that far away from the observer. That is your confusion.

if you take the speed of the sun to be constant, and daylight/darkness roughly sweeping out the same distance in the tropic of cancer, then this is when sunrise & sunset should occur according to the diagram which you posted but apparently can't read:

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that's obviously wrong because observation of reality shows that the sun does not rise and set in the north as seen in California.

observation of actual reality is that the sun rises and sets in the east and the west ((actually a bit south-east and a bit southwest, according to latitude)) -- reliably and predictably, as measured with a hand-held compass.

so that means the diagram should look like this:

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either way there are pretty obvious major fallacies.

you not being able to see that indicates to me that you don't understand your own arguments.
my guess is willful blindness, giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are not a complete troll.
 

posthuman

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You claim you are correctly portraying it and then give no supporting evidence or an explanation.
lies.

i'm substantiating & explaining all of this with planar geometry and FEN's own ridiculous assertions about optics.

you just don't seem to comprehend your own diagrams and your precious conspiracies own explanations.

go ahead and diagram out whatever you think reality is -- i'm off to work.
maybe if i feel generous i'll shred your explanations some more tomorrow.
 
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if you take the speed of the sun to be constant, and daylight/darkness roughly sweeping out the same distance in the tropic of cancer, then this is when sunrise & sunset should occur according to the diagram which you posted but apparently can't read:

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that's obviously wrong because observation of reality shows that the sun does not rise and set in the north as seen in California.

observation of actual reality is that the sun rises and sets in the east and the west ((actually a bit south-east and a bit southwest, according to latitude)) -- reliably and predictably, as measured with a hand-held compass.

so that means the diagram should look like this:

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either way there are pretty obvious major fallacies.

you not being able to see that indicates to me that you don't understand your own arguments.
my guess is willful blindness, giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are not a complete troll.
So you believe that on the flat earth model light and darkness are equal in proportion on the earth? I'm trying to understand your confusion but you are too vague.