How to prove that the Earth is flat, and not a sphere...

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pckts

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lies.

i'm substantiating & explaining all of this with planar geometry and FEN's own ridiculous assertions about optics.

you just don't seem to comprehend your own diagrams and your precious conspiracies own explanations.

go ahead and diagram out whatever you think reality is -- i'm off to work.
maybe if i feel generous i'll shred your explanations some more tomorrow.
I don't want to make a diagram for you, you just posted false information and claimed it disproved flat earth theory. Maybe someone else will do it for you.
 
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pckts

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So you believe that on the flat earth model light and darkness are equal in proportion on the earth? I'm trying to understand your confusion but you are too vague.
Answer this when you get out of work, I want to know what the problem is.
 
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I see it every day. I live on water front property. What is your point?
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the understanding of 'movement' in God's Nature - absolutely everything
goes in a 'circle', whether you believe it or not, the 'rolling-tides' never
exceed their bounders, if this were true, then we would all FALL OFF
of the face of the earth...God's bounders can only be circular, in order
for them the continue in their designated paths that He has made for them
and us in order to continue-on, generation after generation, after generation...
 

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in other words in imaginary-flat-world,

Nova Scotia is due east of Los Angeles, and if you get a powerful telescope and point it due west from the coast of LA, you should be able to see Australia.



it should be pretty clear how erroneous this is.

I live in Florida and pointed my telescope west. Could barely make out Guam. No Australia. Perhaps my lens is dirty or I miscalculated.
 

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During June and the summer months the sun and moon orbit the yellow circle:


If you are near the center of this circle you will see the sun revolve all day until it moves further away, and eventually when it is at the orange line you it will be continuous night/darkness because the sun is too far away.

This corresponds with this: In Svalbard, Norway, the northernmost inhabited region of Europe, there is no sunset from approximately 19 April to 23 August, and no sunrise between November 14 and January 29.
The sun is stationary, it is the earth that revolves around the sun not the other way around. The amount of sunlight available at any given day is determined by the angle of the earth relative to the sun as in spins on its axis. Over the course of a solar year the average amount of daylight per day is 12 hours and 12 hours of darkness. This is a mathematical fact.
 
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The sun is stationary, it is the earth that revolves around the sun not the other way around. The amount of sunlight available at any given day is determined by the angle of the earth relative to the sun as in spins on its axis. Over the course of a solar year the average amount of daylight per day is 12 hours and 12 hours of darkness. This is a mathematical fact.
Yes I was taught that in second grade and know the story, I'm a flat earther now and am explaining flat earth theory on a flat earth forum.
 

Odelschwanck

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This is not a flat earth forum.

Unless I just haven't been here long enough to notice...
 
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pckts

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This is not a flat earth forum.

Unless I just haven't been here long enough to notice...
Thread, forum, post, section, you realize I used the wrong word, but you feel the need to correct me because you are a social justice warrior and grammar patrolman.

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This is thread is a place to discuss flat earth, a forum.
 
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Burninglight

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Your lines and estimates are all wrong. You want me to comment on and defend your faulty work?
He cut off part of what you said, but do comment, so we can understand what is wrong with his diagram. The flat earth has me interested. I am trying to learn all I can.
 
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Burninglight

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This is not a flat earth forum.

Unless I just haven't been here long enough to notice...
Perhaps it would be better if you held your peace then. This forum is about the truth who is Jesus and this thread is seeking truth about God's creation that will set you free from falsehood and lies. We are seeking truth here. You cannot prove this thread is false; so, please don't make trolling comments!
 

Odelschwanck

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lol wait, really? I guess I haven't posted here enough if someone has mistaken me for a social justice warrior.

I knew you might have used the wrong word, but I've seen people make weird assumptions about online communities in the past so I wasn't sure.
 
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Burninglight

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lol wait, really? I guess I haven't posted here enough if someone has mistaken me for a social justice warrior.

I knew you might have used the wrong word, but I've seen people make weird assumptions about online communities in the past so I wasn't sure.
Well, what can I say? I hope you're right?
 
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the understanding of 'movement' in God's Nature - absolutely everything
goes in a 'circle', whether you believe it or not, the 'rolling-tides' never
exceed their bounders, if this were true, then we would all FALL OFF
of the face of the earth...God's bounders can only be circular, in order
for them the continue in their designated paths that He has made for them
and us in order to continue-on, generation after generation, after generation...
Have you thought that the sun gives off positive electromagnetic fields and the moon gives negative ones and their rotations around the circle of the earth in varying degrees produces the circular boundaries you speak of? Let's face you cannot disprove a geocentric system especially when there is evidence in Scripture it is so! BTW, no one believes you can fall off the earth today. If you tried to fall off, you'd only end up frozen and immortalized in ice at the ends of the earth!
 
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Burninglight

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The sun is stationary, it is the earth that revolves around the sun not the other way around. The amount of sunlight available at any given day is determined by the angle of the earth relative to the sun as in spins on its axis. Over the course of a solar year the average amount of daylight per day is 12 hours and 12 hours of darkness. This is a mathematical fact.
Not according to the flat earth model or the Scriptures. Remember the Scripture said God made the sun stand still for a day not the earth. That is why we have a leap year!
 
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pckts

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He cut off part of what you said, but do comment, so we can understand what is wrong with his diagram. The flat earth has me interested. I am trying to learn all I can.
Here is an example of how it should be done and look, notice sunset is 4 and a half marks ahead of high noon because it's at 4:30 and sunrise is almost 5 marks behind because it's almost at 7 AM, each "mark" is a longitudinal line emanating from the center and there are 24 total:



You have to figure out when "high noon" is for the specific location, and also sunset and sunrise, and then plot the high noon on the longitudinal line, and count backwards from that to plot the sunrise point, and forward for the sunset. Since the model has 24 lines emanating from the center, it's similar to a big clock but with 24 hour hands instead of 12.

When he plotted his example he didn't take season into account or the actual sunset and sunrise times for the location of the observer, he just went with "north" "south" "east" and "west" gestimating the positions these sun phases occurred.

Then he criticized the model because is gesitmated positions of sunset and sunrise weren't accurate.

I posted that model as an example for the varying orbit of the sun throughout the year, if you want to plot sunset and sunrises you shouldn't even use those circles, use the sunset and sunrise times. They are just there as a general guideline of the sun's positions throughout the seasons.
 
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During June and the summer months the sun and moon orbit the yellow circle:


If you are near the center of this circle you will see the sun revolve all day until it moves further away, and eventually when it is at the orange line you it will be continuous night/darkness because the sun is too far away.

This corresponds with this: In Svalbard, Norway, the northernmost inhabited region of Europe, there is no sunset from approximately 19 April to 23 August, and no sunrise between November 14 and January 29.
Let me get a few ideas straight.
A sun, hundreds of miles across is circulating 3000 mile above the surface of a disc 14,000 miles across.
It has a circular orbit daily, which changes by getting larger through the year and then shrinking again
for some unknown reason. The distance of view is always about 4000 miles.
Some unknown reason light stops travelling after 4000 miles and it goes dark.

Now imagine the international space station goes over the whole earth every 1.5 hours approx.
To do this it must follow the same path approximately similar to the sun, and be about 400 km up.

Now it weighs about 419 metric tons approx. It has been in orbit almost 20 years.
But what keeps it up there?

Next question, the antartic in this model would be 44 thousand miles wide.
Now you can fly a plane all the way around and is 12 thousand mile long

Now how many times would one have to deny the reality of a flat earth over
the globe view for the flat earth view to become accepted?

This is like saying gravity does not exist we are pushed onto the earth rather
than pulled. Now it is easy to prove this is not true by removing all the push
material above an object, so a feather in a glass bell with the air excluded, it
still lays flat on the bottom of the jar. Equally when in you are in orbit around the
earth you are weightless, because the force pushing you away from the earth
equals the gravity pulling you towards the earth.
 
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Burninglight

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Let me get a few ideas straight.
A sun, hundreds of miles across is circulating 3000 mile above the surface of a disc 14,000 miles across.
It has a circular orbit daily, which changes by getting larger through the year and then shrinking again
for some unknown reason. The distance of view is always about 4000 miles.
Some unknown reason light stops travelling after 4000 miles and it goes dark.

Now imagine the international space station goes over the whole earth every 1.5 hours approx.
To do this it must follow the same path approximately similar to the sun, and be about 400 km up.

Now it weighs about 419 metric tons approx. It has been in orbit almost 20 years.
But what keeps it up there?

Next question, the antartic in this model would be 44 thousand miles wide.
Now you can fly a plane all the way around and is 12 thousand mile long

Now how many times would one have to deny the reality of a flat earth over
the globe view for the flat earth view to become accepted?

This is like saying gravity does not exist we are pushed onto the earth rather
than pulled. Now it is easy to prove this is not true by removing all the push
material above an object, so a feather in a glass bell with the air excluded, it
still lays flat on the bottom of the jar. Equally when in you are in orbit around the
earth you are weightless, because the force pushing you away from the earth
equals the gravity pulling you towards the earth.
How does this support a globe or heliocentric system? What Scriptures support a ball earth? God said when man lays his nest up on the stars, He will bring them down Obadiah 4... I don't believe it is possible for man to make it into deep outer space or make it to the moon for that matter... It was all a space race hoax.