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I have proved it is not :) I am not asking you to concede I care less if you do. I am very certain many here are very much informed and will seek of what I said is true :).

  1. You did not address the facts and truth I provided about Margaret Sanger the founder of PP and a key know speaker of the KKK.
you chose to deflect and suggest I am " trying to create fights with those who agree in principle.".

Not at all. Do you support the DNC? Do you support PP? If your answer is no, then what are you even talking about? The PP is racist from its founding and the founder was a white woman who created the program to reduce the population of Blacks in the 1920s Well documented. FYI that is a racist program by definition.

You think PP is a good program today because the origin is no longer the reason why Abortions happen today. I proved that thinking wrong!. So now you want to create a victim mentality from the truth I have said.

PP started out looking to kill black people Period. They are a demonic murdering entity that has stayed true to its founder. IF you disagree then I leave you to it.
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Not biting on any of your further strawmen, timewasting. If I never stated anything, that you make strawmen about, you end up in a discussion with yourself. And I am bored with old news. I am not american, do not support or oppose, do not need to post anything about PP or DNC, not going on baiting. This is irrelevant to me.
 
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Not biting on any of your further strawmen, timewasting. If I never stated anything, that you make strawmen about, you end up in a discussion with yourself. And I am bored with old news. I am not american, do not support or oppose, do not need to post anything about PP or DNC, not going on baiting. This is irrelevant to me.
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Ok :)
 
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Genocide is wiping out entire races of people. Abortion doesn't do that
Side note I'm not here to condone abortion but we need to make sure we use the right definitions of words if we're going to have a constructive conversation
 
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Genocide is wiping out entire races of people. Abortion doesn't do that
Side note I'm not here to condone abortion but we need to make sure we use the right definitions of words if we're going to have a constructive conversation
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wrong ! Abortion has killed 61 million babies. YOu are not a Christian by your own admission. therefore you do not see life beginning at Conception. You have a worldview that is secular humanism. I do not expect you to agree you are not saved nor are you in a relationship with the Lord Jesus. But we are praying for you.
 
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Dude653 said:
Genocide is wiping out entire races of people. Abortion doesn't do that
Side note I'm not here to condone abortion but we need to make sure we use the right definitions of words if we're going to have a constructive conversation
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I agree that genocide is the wrong term for abortion, but the application is definitely focused on the poor. I don't like people saying it focuses on people of color because from my understanding the real issue is not the color of your skin but how rich or poor you are. They are not just using this in the US but worldwide they want Americans to pay for aborting babies from 3rd world countries.
 
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Genocide --
  1. The systematic and widespread extermination or attempted extermination of a national, racial, religious, or ethnic group.
  2. The systematic killing of a racial or cultural group.
  3. The systematic killing of substantial numbers of people on the basis of ethnicity, religion, political opinion, social status, or other particularity.
So if you understand genocide to be the systematic killing of substantial numbers of people on the basis of social status, then yes, Abortion in America is definitely genocidal.

That said this is not the most common definition of the word.
 
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What is the Ku Klux Klan and why is it associated with Christianity?
It sounds like a cult, but I did read that people would wear pillowcases on their heads and lynch people just cos they believed they were protecting people. From what?

Are they still active today?
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Yes. You can find information on the history of the KKK on-line.

They have an interesting history as to origin and purpose in their beginning. Political in fact. KKK is also in Canada and has ties to Scotland.

They claim to be Christian because when God created Adam, he created a white man. Therefore the first people chosen of God were Caucasian.

God's naming him, Aw-Dam, in Hebrew, meaning blush, to show blood in the face, ruddy, red rosy cheeks.
Something not possible for dark skinned races.

Therein,KKK believe white people are God's chosen. And the "mark of Cain", was the curse of the dark skinned.
 
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I agree that genocide is the wrong term for abortion, but the application is definitely focused on the poor. I don't like people saying it focuses on people of color because from my understanding the real issue is not the color of your skin but how rich or poor you are. They are not just using this in the US but worldwide they want Americans to pay for aborting babies from 3rd world countries.
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You do know that the word Genocide is a PC word for Mass Murder right? Abortion is the PC word used for mass murder, Fetus is the PC word to take away from the real meaning of baby
 
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ZNP said:
Genocide --
  1. The systematic and widespread extermination or attempted extermination of a national, racial, religious, or ethnic group.
  2. The systematic killing of a racial or cultural group.
  3. The systematic killing of substantial numbers of people on the basis of ethnicity, religion, political opinion, social status, or other particularity.
So if you understand genocide to be the systematic killing of substantial numbers of people on the basis of social status, then yes, Abortion in America is definitely genocidal.

That said this is not the most common definition of the word.
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No, it's not Genocide nor Genocidal.

Claiming it is Genocide is not only wrong, it insults those who have been impacted by Genocide campaigns.
Jewish Students Speak Out Abortion Is Not Genocide
 
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wrong ! Abortion has killed 61 million babies. YOu are not a Christian by your own admission. therefore you do not see life beginning at Conception. You have a worldview that is secular humanism. I do not expect you to agree you are not saved nor are you in a relationship with the Lord Jesus. But we are praying for you.
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Yeah that doesn't change the definitions of words. Genocide means wiping out entire races of people name one entire race of people that has been wiped out by abortion.... I'll wait
Actually it's a little disrespectful to the people who have actually been victims of genocide like the Jews
 
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Women choosing to voluntarily abort pregnancies is not the same thing as people being rounded up like cattle and systematically exterminated
Or native Americans being marched to their deaths.
Person has to be completely disconnected from reality too try to equate these things
 
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Yeah that doesn't change the definitions of words. Genocide means wiping out entire races of people name one entire race of people that has been wiped out by abortion.... I'll wait
Actually it's a little disrespectful to the people who have actually been victims of genocide like the Jews
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61 million people have been wiped out in generations. Love how you point to a crime of one to lighten the seriousness of another.

BY your own words you are ill-informed. IF Genocide means " wiping out entire races of people " Like the jews you suggest it is an insult to, please tell me who are the people in Isreal and thought-out the United States known as Jews IF they were wiped out?

6 million jews died in Germany during WWII how many black babies make up 30 % of the 61 million?

that is 18 million SIR!!!!!!!! Yet there are still black people today as there are Jews. So, please know what you are speaking about before you defend the racist murdering of babies.
 
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61 million people have been wiped out in generations. Love how you point to a crime of one to lighten the seriousness of another.

BY your own words you are ill-informed. IF Genocide means " wiping out entire races of people " Like the jews you suggest it is an insult to, please tell me who are the people in Isreal and thought-out the United States known as Jews IF they were wiped out?

6 million jews died in Germany during WWII how many black babies make up 30 % of the 61 million?

that is 18 million SIR!!!!!!!! Yet there are still black people today as there are Jews. So, please know what you are speaking about before you defend the racist murdering of babies.
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Yeah you know where the Jews are the smallest minority in the world? Because Hitler almost killed all of them. That's genocide
 
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61 million people have been wiped out in generations. Love how you point to a crime of one to lighten the seriousness of another.

BY your own words you are ill-informed. IF Genocide means " wiping out entire races of people " Like the jews you suggest it is an insult to, please tell me who are the people in Isreal and thought-out the United States known as Jews IF they were wiped out?

6 million jews died in Germany during WWII how many black babies make up 30 % of the 61 million?

that is 18 million SIR!!!!!!!! Yet there are still black people today as there are Jews. So, please know what you are speaking about before you defend the racist murdering of babies.
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Don't straw man me because I'm not defending anything I'm just saying that's not the definition of genocide... If African-American women were actually being forced to abort their babies then you might have a point
 
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Dude653 said:
Yeah you know where the Jews are the smallest minority in the world? Because Hitler almost killed all of them. That's genocide
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and Black in America only make up 13 % of the total population and 18 million were killed in the womb.
 
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Dude653 said:
Yeah you know where the Jews are the smallest minority in the world? Because Hitler almost killed all of them. That's genocide
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You don't know what you are talking about. First, genocide is wiping all people out, now it is some leftover.
 
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Don't straw man me because I'm not defending anything I'm just saying that's not the definition of genocide... If African-American women were actually being forced to abort their babies then you might have a point
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strawman, strawman, STRAWMAN!!!! LOl, please. You don't know anything about abortion and how it affects women and if you tell a lie long enough people believe it. have you been with a person who had an abortion? have you been in the office and here the list of options when a young girl is taken there to PP by a teacher and the parents don't know?

YOU don't. Please be quiet.
 
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You don't know what you are talking about. First, genocide is wiping all people out, now it is some leftover.
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Yeah someone actually posted the definition of genocide. The mass murder of a particular ethnicity or group of people for political purposes
African-Americans typically tend to vote Democrat so how would that be in their political interest? Your argument doesn't fly
 
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strawman, strawman, STRAWMAN!!!! LOl, please. You don't know anything about abortion and how it affects women and if you tell a lie long enough people believe it. have you been with a person who had an abortion? have you been in the office and here the list of options when a young girl is taken there to PP by a teacher and the parents don't know?

YOU don't. Please be quiet.
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You don't even understand the definition of straw man. The straw man fallacy is arguing against an argument that your opponent isn't making
 
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