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You know on one end I was thinking 4 horsemen too.
What I see right now is that the White Horse is the system conquering by "peace and politics" (like oh. what they're doing right now). After they force UBI, forced vaccines, forced acceptance of "debt cancellation" (which also involves surrendering all your property and property RIGHTS in the future (also turns out if you don't they're going to put us in camps and we can't buy or sell. I'm not kidding... found stuff published that covered their plans).
After all, this is touted as the solution to "save mankind" right? Their words after all. A false savior.
People will resist this worldwide. Which leads us to Horse 2. The red horse. War. I think rebellion and resistance especially in the US by the gun owners and patriots is a good example here, pretty self explainatory.
They also predicted by Q2 there will be a systemic breakdown and food shortages. That leads us to Horse 3, the Black Horse. But that's normal with totalitarian and communist forced rule.
Finally horse 4 is a result. Death everywhere. And the spreading of disease and pestilence. They say that also death comes by wild animals. I suppose scavengers or a broken down civilization might be vulnerable to that to boot. It doesn't have to be a mega disease. In the wake of war and broken down civilizations and communism illness that kills always runs rampant, malnutrition, etc.
I don't believe personally that the 4 horsemen are the result of the antiChrist but rather the stage setters. And the information I was looking over (and need to dig into further) suggests to me that all of this is going to hit us next year. Whether it all happens in one year or not? That I don't know.
I know maybe this should have gone in the conspiracy theory forums, but we're at the point where they aren't even hiding this stuff anymore. And it does tie in with the whole "livable wage" because that's the base argument that has lead to all of this (that and social justice, which is also an issue).
Your picture in your post got me thinking on that. And since these four are not actually in this scenario God's wrath, but rather the behaviors of man, well. We might see them.
But that's an argument for another day, and simply my guess on what I believe is going to happen. And it's only that, a theory and speculation on how it'll be fulfilled. I've noticed most times you have a communist takeover, these things happen in this order. Only this time I think it's about to be worldwide.
All over a "livable wage" or "social and economic justice."
What I see right now is that the White Horse is the system conquering by "peace and politics" (like oh. what they're doing right now). After they force UBI, forced vaccines, forced acceptance of "debt cancellation" (which also involves surrendering all your property and property RIGHTS in the future (also turns out if you don't they're going to put us in camps and we can't buy or sell. I'm not kidding... found stuff published that covered their plans).
After all, this is touted as the solution to "save mankind" right? Their words after all. A false savior.
People will resist this worldwide. Which leads us to Horse 2. The red horse. War. I think rebellion and resistance especially in the US by the gun owners and patriots is a good example here, pretty self explainatory.
They also predicted by Q2 there will be a systemic breakdown and food shortages. That leads us to Horse 3, the Black Horse. But that's normal with totalitarian and communist forced rule.
Finally horse 4 is a result. Death everywhere. And the spreading of disease and pestilence. They say that also death comes by wild animals. I suppose scavengers or a broken down civilization might be vulnerable to that to boot. It doesn't have to be a mega disease. In the wake of war and broken down civilizations and communism illness that kills always runs rampant, malnutrition, etc.
I don't believe personally that the 4 horsemen are the result of the antiChrist but rather the stage setters. And the information I was looking over (and need to dig into further) suggests to me that all of this is going to hit us next year. Whether it all happens in one year or not? That I don't know.
I know maybe this should have gone in the conspiracy theory forums, but we're at the point where they aren't even hiding this stuff anymore. And it does tie in with the whole "livable wage" because that's the base argument that has lead to all of this (that and social justice, which is also an issue).
Your picture in your post got me thinking on that. And since these four are not actually in this scenario God's wrath, but rather the behaviors of man, well. We might see them.
But that's an argument for another day, and simply my guess on what I believe is going to happen. And it's only that, a theory and speculation on how it'll be fulfilled. I've noticed most times you have a communist takeover, these things happen in this order. Only this time I think it's about to be worldwide.
All over a "livable wage" or "social and economic justice."
Yeah maybe, I don't know. Just trying to make sense of it all.
Well a couple of teachers Kim Clement and Sadhu predict Trump will win a second term and the economy will improve, but if good times come again, it will probably be good to prepare for a rainy day in the future.
The Four Horseman of the Apocalypse are Conquer, War, Famine, and Death.
Revelation 6
The next thing I saw was this. When the lamb had opened one of the seven seals, I heard one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, ‘Come!’ 2 And, as I watched, there was a white horse. Its rider was holding a bow. He was given a crown, and he went off winning victories, and to win more of them.
3 When the lamb opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, ‘Come!’ 4 And another horse went out, fiery red this time. Its rider was given permission to take peace away from the earth, so that people would kill one another. He was given a great sword.
5 When the lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, ‘Come!’ As I watched, there was a black horse. Its rider held a pair of scales in his hand. 6 I heard something like a voice coming from the midst of the four living creatures. ‘A quart of wheat for a denarius!’ said the voice. ‘And three quarts of barley for a denarius! But don’t ruin the oil and the wine!’
7 When the lamb opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, ‘Come!’ 8 As I looked, there was a pale horse, and its rider’s name was Death. Hades followed along behind him. They were given authority over a quarter of the earth, to kill with the sword, and with famine, and with death, and by means of earth’s wild animals.
Well a couple of teachers Kim Clement and Sadhu predict Trump will win a second term and the economy will improve, but if good times come again, it will probably be good to prepare for a rainy day in the future.
The Four Horseman of the Apocalypse are Conquer, War, Famine, and Death.
Revelation 6
The next thing I saw was this. When the lamb had opened one of the seven seals, I heard one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, ‘Come!’ 2 And, as I watched, there was a white horse. Its rider was holding a bow. He was given a crown, and he went off winning victories, and to win more of them.
3 When the lamb opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, ‘Come!’ 4 And another horse went out, fiery red this time. Its rider was given permission to take peace away from the earth, so that people would kill one another. He was given a great sword.
5 When the lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, ‘Come!’ As I watched, there was a black horse. Its rider held a pair of scales in his hand. 6 I heard something like a voice coming from the midst of the four living creatures. ‘A quart of wheat for a denarius!’ said the voice. ‘And three quarts of barley for a denarius! But don’t ruin the oil and the wine!’
7 When the lamb opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, ‘Come!’ 8 As I looked, there was a pale horse, and its rider’s name was Death. Hades followed along behind him. They were given authority over a quarter of the earth, to kill with the sword, and with famine, and with death, and by means of earth’s wild animals.
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A lot of people tried to tell me Covid was pestilence.
One person laid it out like this:
Trump is the white horse. he conquered the US (no. no he didn't.)
Riots were the violence (the red horse)
Covid wrecked the economy (the black horse)
And oh Covid is also the last horse, pestilence.
Then I pointed out that they missed one part. To kill a fourth of the world.
Which even if you total all of them up, it wasn't a fourth.
To which I was told "it affected the ENTIRE WORLD". Right. And simply opened the door for the WEF, IMF and the power grab coming in by the Great Reset.
When I laid out the above they didn't want to believe it.
Is it sad that even when you can point everything out people just... I dunno. It's even more sad when this person has seen your track record of getting predictions right and admitted it. And still won't hear.
When I slept today, I actually dreamt of the Rapture happening and experienced it in the dream. Or at least I'm sure what my mind thinks it will be like. And I remembered sitting in the clouds, watching my mother and sister suffer after they were left down below to the wolves of this world.
One person laid it out like this:
Trump is the white horse. he conquered the US (no. no he didn't.)
Riots were the violence (the red horse)
Covid wrecked the economy (the black horse)
And oh Covid is also the last horse, pestilence.
Then I pointed out that they missed one part. To kill a fourth of the world.
Which even if you total all of them up, it wasn't a fourth.
To which I was told "it affected the ENTIRE WORLD". Right. And simply opened the door for the WEF, IMF and the power grab coming in by the Great Reset.
When I laid out the above they didn't want to believe it.
Is it sad that even when you can point everything out people just... I dunno. It's even more sad when this person has seen your track record of getting predictions right and admitted it. And still won't hear.
When I slept today, I actually dreamt of the Rapture happening and experienced it in the dream. Or at least I'm sure what my mind thinks it will be like. And I remembered sitting in the clouds, watching my mother and sister suffer after they were left down below to the wolves of this world.
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Interesting perspective. Supposedly Trump will have another 4 years and this will be like a grace period, before the real crazy things happen. This is what I get from Kim Clement and Sadhu.
I seen those videos where it says, you will own nothing, and like it. This is probably the Green New Deal, I don't know. If you don't surrender all your possessions, you will goto. prison......How is this fair? Sounds like robbery for some reason.
Guess we will have to wait and see.
Go back a step to my prior post.
If my prior scenario I laid out is how things work, then that would mean either 1) the rapture occurs prior to those things occuring next year. Or 2) That the rapture is not pre trib but post or mid. (logically).
Of course, if things don't play out as such, then obviously none of the above apply and we're back in the lobby waiting to see what happens or when.
Obviously if one doesn't occur of course I'm going to scratch it off and go "Ok. let's see which of the remaining two occur" by process of elimination. The reason I'm not concerned with "prepping" is because whether or not I die during the Tribulation or don't is irrelevant. Christ will still revive us at the end anyway. If I don't go through it, great. If I do, well I'll die laughing at the antichrist and refuse to surrender my faith in Christ and refuse to worship him. It is God I trust, not man.
I consider all scenarios as possibilities. But instead will let the occurrence and fulfillment of prophecy state and prove which is true and which is not. Because regardless of what I believe, it's going to happen as God intended, not based on my or anyone else's interpretation.
I have my beliefs but I do not cling to any one interpretation. What will happen will happen.
God is in control.
If my prior scenario I laid out is how things work, then that would mean either 1) the rapture occurs prior to those things occuring next year. Or 2) That the rapture is not pre trib but post or mid. (logically).
Of course, if things don't play out as such, then obviously none of the above apply and we're back in the lobby waiting to see what happens or when.
Obviously if one doesn't occur of course I'm going to scratch it off and go "Ok. let's see which of the remaining two occur" by process of elimination. The reason I'm not concerned with "prepping" is because whether or not I die during the Tribulation or don't is irrelevant. Christ will still revive us at the end anyway. If I don't go through it, great. If I do, well I'll die laughing at the antichrist and refuse to surrender my faith in Christ and refuse to worship him. It is God I trust, not man.
I consider all scenarios as possibilities. But instead will let the occurrence and fulfillment of prophecy state and prove which is true and which is not. Because regardless of what I believe, it's going to happen as God intended, not based on my or anyone else's interpretation.
I have my beliefs but I do not cling to any one interpretation. What will happen will happen.
God is in control.
Also pardon, didn't see you had two posts.
I think the above is most likely. I told my friend "yes, Trump will win but they will not let him have power. The traitor king is coming." (which even though yes, Biden is not a king, it's a metaphore).
I haven't looked at Kim Clement and Sadhu. I've seen them around but not really watched them. I tend to stick to considering all possible play outs versus hoping for a specific manifestation of what is to come. My perspective is simply my guess and how it looks like it might fit, given everything coming out. My mind and skillset is designed for spotting patterns, and of course sometimes my guess is right, sometimes it's wrong, sometimes it's somewhere in between in that some of the data was accurate but maybe I missed a few pieces, or had one fragment incorrect.
I think the above is most likely. I told my friend "yes, Trump will win but they will not let him have power. The traitor king is coming." (which even though yes, Biden is not a king, it's a metaphore).
I haven't looked at Kim Clement and Sadhu. I've seen them around but not really watched them. I tend to stick to considering all possible play outs versus hoping for a specific manifestation of what is to come. My perspective is simply my guess and how it looks like it might fit, given everything coming out. My mind and skillset is designed for spotting patterns, and of course sometimes my guess is right, sometimes it's wrong, sometimes it's somewhere in between in that some of the data was accurate but maybe I missed a few pieces, or had one fragment incorrect.
For sure. I had a dream once where I was actually locked up in one of the camps the antichrist had prepared for us. And I remember being allowed to leave but everything was controlled by the elite after. I remember letting slip that I was a Christian and some woman got offended by me saying I was and reported me. And then I remember coming face to face with someone who my mind in the dream identified as the antichrist and being told that I belonged to him.
The worst part is, that I broke down and surrendered. After I did I was let free. We smuggled out some guy from Israel but were stopped at a checkpoint, and the man was killed, and we were allowed to go on to the apartments that were prepared for us.
It was horrid. Of course in a dream you have less control over your actions as they are rooted in base emotions and subconcious things. But all it has done is increase my resolve and faith.
If it's a mid trib or post trib or no rapture, I'm likely not going to survive it. And instead of fearing that, I've simply come to accept it knowing my soul is in Christ's hands, and that is all that matters.
The worst part is, that I broke down and surrendered. After I did I was let free. We smuggled out some guy from Israel but were stopped at a checkpoint, and the man was killed, and we were allowed to go on to the apartments that were prepared for us.
It was horrid. Of course in a dream you have less control over your actions as they are rooted in base emotions and subconcious things. But all it has done is increase my resolve and faith.
If it's a mid trib or post trib or no rapture, I'm likely not going to survive it. And instead of fearing that, I've simply come to accept it knowing my soul is in Christ's hands, and that is all that matters.
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I don't think many will survive. It all sounds quite bizarre, like a movie except we may be starring in it. That's if the pretrib is not true. I myself am undecided as well. I guess we will soon find out in these next few years, what exactly happens. I myself think that this world has come to a point where there is no going back. Things have become too bad.
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Americans get $600 stimulus.
https://www.cnet.com/personal-finan...ecks-when-yours-will-come-why-jan-15-matters/
https://www.cnet.com/personal-finan...ecks-when-yours-will-come-why-jan-15-matters/
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It's not for "gender studies". It's for gender equality tied to the backward treatment of women.
The legislation, running into more than 5,500 pages, which now heads to the White House for President Trump to sign it into law, makes available a minimum of USD 15 million in assistance to Pakistan "for democracy programs" and USD 10 million "for gender programs."
Appearing on Fox News, Senator Graham justified the move.
"Pakistan is a place I really worry about. Eighty-five countries a woman can't open up a bank account without her husband's signature. She can't inherit property. If you're a young girl in Pakistan life is pretty tough. So we're trying to make life better for women throughout the world," he said.
Full article:
https://www.business-standard.com/a...er-programmes-in-pakistan-120122201575_1.html
The legislation, running into more than 5,500 pages, which now heads to the White House for President Trump to sign it into law, makes available a minimum of USD 15 million in assistance to Pakistan "for democracy programs" and USD 10 million "for gender programs."
Appearing on Fox News, Senator Graham justified the move.
"Pakistan is a place I really worry about. Eighty-five countries a woman can't open up a bank account without her husband's signature. She can't inherit property. If you're a young girl in Pakistan life is pretty tough. So we're trying to make life better for women throughout the world," he said.
Full article:
https://www.business-standard.com/a...er-programmes-in-pakistan-120122201575_1.html