Scripture Based Flat Earth Proposition
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Oh, I would just love to do that; however, some serious preventative issues exist.
Oh - and - I don't want to see you write anything more in support of Ball Earth until you can personally go into space and take a clear unedited single photograph of the entire earth...
Oh - and - I don't want to see you write anything more in support of Ball Earth until you can personally go into space and take a clear unedited single photograph of the entire earth...
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So I take it that flat earther believe in math? Didn't use that part since it doesn't equal 6'.
If that was true then you wouldn't be saying the earth was flat because you haven't seen the whole earth at one time. Moreover, if you educate yourselves by observation, where do you see the flat earth?
The water might be flat by observation but the earth certainly isn't flat.
And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: Gen 1:10
A more accurate explanation of flat earthers can be found in 2 Tim 3:5-7
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
If that was true then you wouldn't be saying the earth was flat because you haven't seen the whole earth at one time. Moreover, if you educate yourselves by observation, where do you see the flat earth?
The water might be flat by observation but the earth certainly isn't flat.
And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: Gen 1:10
A more accurate explanation of flat earthers can be found in 2 Tim 3:5-7
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
That's your extra-biblical eisegesis crusade talking. It's not the mountain that was required...
"If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread." So, do you also think the text is telling us stones are the required material for Yeshua to make into bread? Or were the stones possibly the appropriate detail to reveal the scriptural message(s)?
Do you believe the Temple was required for Yeshua to have the possibility of "dashing his foot against stone" as opposed to an equally high straight drop? Or is it possible the Temple was the appropriate reference to reveal the scriptural message(s)?
"When Jesus saw Nathanael approaching, he said of him, “Here truly is an Israelite in whom there is no deceit.” “How do you know me?” Nathanael asked. Jesus answered, “I saw you while you were still under the fig tree before Philip called you.” Then Nathanael declared, “Rabbi, you are the Son of God; you are the king of Israel.” Do you require that Yeshua saw Nat with his naked eyes, as opposed to the superhuman "vision" implied in the text?
Are you declaring there was no superhuman powers involved in Yeshua's temptation? With every additional mile of distance, particles in the air are compounded to block and refract the light energy reaching the naked eye. Even from the highest mountain on earth, Everest, the line of sight is restricted by more surrounding Himalayan mountains ranges. There high mountain ranges in-between the mostly coastal and low-level kingdoms around the world. There is no mountain on earth that has an unobstructed line of sight to all the kingdoms of the earth. A high mountain does not make it possible for the naked human eye. Even if there were a line of sight, the tiny visual spec would be too small to see "all the glory of them"? It's implicit in the context... Superhuman powers are required, not an existing mountain. The mountain, like the stones and the Temple, was the appropriate setting to reveal the scriptural message(s).
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Spherical or flat is irrelevant to God being the creator, loving us, sending Yeshua to die on the cross, our salvation and everlasting life. Sphere or flat has no effect on these things. It's not a scriptural issue. No where in scripture does it read, "And God said, "you must discover if the earth is spherical or flat." No where in the Bible does it read, "The Lord said, "You must have faith that the earth is flat." The earth simply IS spherical or flat, as a literal frog before you has four legs... if the Lord required you to believe that four-legged frog has five legs, he would have made that perfectly clear. It's not a biblical faith issue. You're making it one because you want to for other reasons.
"If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread." So, do you also think the text is telling us stones are the required material for Yeshua to make into bread? Or were the stones possibly the appropriate detail to reveal the scriptural message(s)?
Do you believe the Temple was required for Yeshua to have the possibility of "dashing his foot against stone" as opposed to an equally high straight drop? Or is it possible the Temple was the appropriate reference to reveal the scriptural message(s)?
"When Jesus saw Nathanael approaching, he said of him, “Here truly is an Israelite in whom there is no deceit.” “How do you know me?” Nathanael asked. Jesus answered, “I saw you while you were still under the fig tree before Philip called you.” Then Nathanael declared, “Rabbi, you are the Son of God; you are the king of Israel.” Do you require that Yeshua saw Nat with his naked eyes, as opposed to the superhuman "vision" implied in the text?
Are you declaring there was no superhuman powers involved in Yeshua's temptation? With every additional mile of distance, particles in the air are compounded to block and refract the light energy reaching the naked eye. Even from the highest mountain on earth, Everest, the line of sight is restricted by more surrounding Himalayan mountains ranges. There high mountain ranges in-between the mostly coastal and low-level kingdoms around the world. There is no mountain on earth that has an unobstructed line of sight to all the kingdoms of the earth. A high mountain does not make it possible for the naked human eye. Even if there were a line of sight, the tiny visual spec would be too small to see "all the glory of them"? It's implicit in the context... Superhuman powers are required, not an existing mountain. The mountain, like the stones and the Temple, was the appropriate setting to reveal the scriptural message(s).
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Spherical or flat is irrelevant to God being the creator, loving us, sending Yeshua to die on the cross, our salvation and everlasting life. Sphere or flat has no effect on these things. It's not a scriptural issue. No where in scripture does it read, "And God said, "you must discover if the earth is spherical or flat." No where in the Bible does it read, "The Lord said, "You must have faith that the earth is flat." The earth simply IS spherical or flat, as a literal frog before you has four legs... if the Lord required you to believe that four-legged frog has five legs, he would have made that perfectly clear. It's not a biblical faith issue. You're making it one because you want to for other reasons.
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So I take it that flat earther believe in math? Didn't use that part since it doesn't equal 6'.
If that was true then you wouldn't be saying the earth was flat because you haven't seen the whole earth at one time. Moreover, if you educate yourselves by observation, where do you see the flat earth?
The water might be flat by observation but the earth certainly isn't flat.
And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: Gen 1:10
A more accurate explanation of flat earthers can be found in 2 Tim 3:5-7
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
If that was true then you wouldn't be saying the earth was flat because you haven't seen the whole earth at one time. Moreover, if you educate yourselves by observation, where do you see the flat earth?
The water might be flat by observation but the earth certainly isn't flat.
And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: Gen 1:10
A more accurate explanation of flat earthers can be found in 2 Tim 3:5-7
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
So I take it that flat earther believe in math? Didn't use that part since it doesn't equal 6'.
If that was true then you wouldn't be saying the earth was flat because you haven't seen the whole earth at one time. Moreover, if you educate yourselves by observation, where do you see the flat earth?
The water might be flat by observation but the earth certainly isn't flat.
And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: Gen 1:10
A more accurate explanation of flat earthers can be found in 2 Tim 3:5-7
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
If that was true then you wouldn't be saying the earth was flat because you haven't seen the whole earth at one time. Moreover, if you educate yourselves by observation, where do you see the flat earth?
The water might be flat by observation but the earth certainly isn't flat.
And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: Gen 1:10
A more accurate explanation of flat earthers can be found in 2 Tim 3:5-7
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
3 Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.
4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
Job 38:1-4
When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it, Job 38:9
Refracted light travels in a straight line
relative to the angle at which it is observable on the surface.
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