The question no flat-earther can answer

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GaryA

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JFK, the moon landings, FE, COVID, and many other things -- your approach must be the same - "discover the [real] truth" - that is what it is all about.

You will find that the "official" story on all of the things in the above short list are lies.

You will come to the realization that your worst enemy Satan is the enemy of all truth - and that - virtually everything in life that you know anything about -- you have been lied to about it.

If your research takes you deeply enough into certain areas, you will be awakened to the fact that virtually everything we "assume" is 'normal' and 'correct' ("the way it is is the way it should be") with regard to the way we carry out our every-day existance --- is predicated on a lie!

The current world truly belongs to Satan. And, he has surely messed it up but good - so much so that the vast majority of people in this world are so deceived into not believing the truth about their own deception.

If enough people understood and accepted the truth about the reality we all live in, we could literally change it all virtually overnight.

Believe it!

Unfortunately, most people in the world would much rather believe and trust ANYTHING but God and their own senses.

And that is the truth!
 

gb9

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If you are - or are going to be - a 'truther' - your default MO is going to be "prove all things" from having no trust in a system that you know has lied to you enormously all of your life.

If you really care about - and, have a great desire for - knowing the truth about the reality you live in, you will consider and look into matters that may seem rather strange.

Why? Because you want to know the truth.

Just keep the Bible at the center of your research (as the one thing you know you can trust) and you will do okay.
but, see, here is the thing-

what does flat earth theory have to do with the overblown virus numbers, or the bill gates microchip , or the possible forced vaccines that are likely to come??

answer- nothing. it just sucks the air out of the conversation.
 

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Amazing that every bit of information that counters the flat Earth theory is instantly labeled as doctored, fake, or propaganda. Meanwhile, the burden of proof always rests on those who claim the earth is round as if their is any information a flat earther would accept. They just want validation. This isn't how intellectual debates are supposed to work. No one who wants to be taken seriously would present theories this way. Flat earth is some serious pants-on-head wacko world stuff.
 

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but, see, here is the thing-

what does flat earth theory have to do with the overblown virus numbers, or the bill gates microchip , or the possible forced vaccines that are likely to come??

answer- nothing. it just sucks the air out of the conversation.
I would agree that it has nothing directly to do with any of those things.

But, see, here is another thing -

When a person comes to grip with the truth about the earth, they suddenly are also faced with the truth about having been lied to all their lives.

(Not to mention the billions of tax-dollars that have been wasted.)

Such a person is now a whole lot more ready to listen to what you are saying. Understand?

In this regard, Flat Earth is most definitely your friend - not your enemy.

I understand what you are saying, but it does not necessarily mean that a person who is not willing to listen to 'Flat Earth' will not listen to you regarding other things.

You have to see this from my POV. If I consider what you are saying to be truth, then - it is all truth to me.

What 'major' truth that you believe are you willing to keep silent about so that someone will believe a 'minor' truth you want to tell them about???

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What conversation did/does it just suck the air out of?
 

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I can't believe I'm actually explaining this....
Flat Earthers don't actually believe that the earth is flat. It's a troll of sorts. What they're saying is that we're getting lied to about pretty much everything. And they're making a bit of a joke out it by saying "since they lie about everything else, then why should we even believe them when they say the world is round?". So do yourself a favor and stop arguing with flat earthers. If you do, then it's just an indicator that you don't even know what you're arguing about.
 

Runningman

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I can't believe I'm actually explaining this....
Flat Earthers don't actually believe that the earth is flat. It's a troll of sorts. What they're saying is that we're getting lied to about pretty much everything. And they're making a bit of a joke out it by saying "since they lie about everything else, then why should we even believe them when they say the world is round?". So do yourself a favor and stop arguing with flat earthers. If you do, then it's just an indicator that you don't even know what you're arguing about.
Ever skimmed through the flat earth society websites and message boards? Go take a look and see if you still think that. :)
 

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how high is the ice wall at the edge of the flat earth??

i mean , that should be an easy one our resident flat earth expert.
Hard to say as no one has ever seen it. A flatliner member once told me that the reason the ice wall has never been photographed is because no one has ever been there. He said that it was hard to get there. Really? Just take a jet there and snap some photos. Apparently, flatliners lack the nerve and ambition to actually do some exploring. We should just accept what they say at face value.
 

GaryA

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Hard to say as no one has ever seen it. A flatliner member once told me that the reason the ice wall has never been photographed is because no one has ever been there. He said that it was hard to get there. Really? Just take a jet there and snap some photos. Apparently, flatliners lack the nerve and ambition to actually do some exploring. We should just accept what they say at face value.
There are ice wall pictures that have been posted in [various?] threads on this site.

You would do well to actually reach the ice wall and take a picture in a jet before they shot you down...
 

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There are ice wall pictures that have been posted in [various?] threads on this site.

You would do well to actually reach the ice wall and take a picture in a jet before they shot you down...
It does lend to credibility issues of a flat earth because there is absolutely no proof whatsoever. Who is going to do the shooting? One guy once told me that no one has ever been there because there is no oxygen. Really? Air tanks. Another person said that no one has ever been there because it's too far away, whatever that means. Yet, a jet liner can take-off from LA, go either east or west, fly straight and end up in the same spot that it started from. Can't do this on a flat earth as you would fly off into space.
 

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If the earth is flat what is the distance between the two cities that are the farthest apart from each other? What is the shape of the flat earth, is it round, square, rectangle, parallelogram or some other shape?
 

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It does lend to credibility issues of a flat earth because there is absolutely no proof whatsoever. Who is going to do the shooting? One guy once told me that no one has ever been there because there is no oxygen. Really? Air tanks. Another person said that no one has ever been there because it's too far away, whatever that means. Yet, a jet liner can take-off from LA, go either east or west, fly straight and end up in the same spot that it started from. Can't do this on a flat earth as you would fly off into space.
Perhaps you have been listening to the wrong people?

I guess you don't know about the Antarctic Treaty (1959) - and, that - 'Antarctica' is very "protected" today?

Your jet liner is not actually going straight - it is following a circular path back to the origin point.
 

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I would think weather and the lunar eclipse path are proof enough to debunk the flat earth theorists.
 

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Perhaps you have been listening to the wrong people?

I guess you don't know about the Antarctic Treaty (1959) - and, that - 'Antarctica' is very "protected" today?

Your jet liner is not actually going straight - it is following a circular path back to the origin point.
It is indeed flying a circular path because the earth is round.
 

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Perhaps you have been listening to the wrong people?

I guess you don't know about the Antarctic Treaty (1959) - and, that - 'Antarctica' is very "protected" today?

Your jet liner is not actually going straight - it is following a circular path back to the origin point.
It's OK Gary, you are still a smart guy, always considerate and impeccable forum decorm.
 

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I would agree that it has nothing directly to do with any of those things.

But, see, here is another thing -

When a person comes to grip with the truth about the earth, they suddenly are also faced with the truth about having been lied to all their lives.

(Not to mention the billions of tax-dollars that have been wasted.)

Such a person is now a whole lot more ready to listen to what you are saying. Understand?

In this regard, Flat Earth is most definitely your friend - not your enemy.

I understand what you are saying, but it does not necessarily mean that a person who is not willing to listen to 'Flat Earth' will not listen to you regarding other things.

You have to see this from my POV. If I consider what you are saying to be truth, then - it is all truth to me.

What 'major' truth that you believe are you willing to keep silent about so that someone will believe a 'minor' truth you want to tell them about???

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What conversation did/does it just suck the air out of?
here is how it sucks the air out of a trying to wake someone up.

instead of trying to convince someone that all this stuff is covered up and hidden, which is hard to do, do this instead-

you can show someone on the c.d.c. 's own website how the virus numbers are overblown.

you can show someone gov, documents about m.k. ultra and operation mockingbird.

you can show someone the united nations documents on weather control.

these are much more effective than flat earth websites and youtube channels , which just present theory.

official gov. docs work much better.

you know as well as i that they hide all this in plain site.
 

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you know as well as i that they hide all this in plain site.
Exactly! And, FE is just another thing being "hidden" in plain site.

The 'proof' is there. But, you have to look at it and see it for what it really is...
 

GaryA

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here is how it sucks the air out of a trying to wake someone up.

instead of trying to convince someone that all this stuff is covered up and hidden, which is hard to do, do this instead-

you can show someone on the c.d.c. 's own website how the virus numbers are overblown.

you can show someone gov, documents about m.k. ultra and operation mockingbird.

you can show someone the united nations documents on weather control.

these are much more effective than flat earth websites and youtube channels , which just present theory.

official gov. docs work much better.

you know as well as i that they hide all this in plain site.
I understand what you are saying.

Keep telling the truth.

Show them the documents. Compel them to think for themselves and see the truth.

Keep doing what you are doing. :cool:(y)
 

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Unfortunately, most people in the world would much rather believe and trust ANYTHING but God and their own senses.

And that is the truth!
I highlighted "their own senses" because it shows (I think! ;)) a huge flaw in your approach. Trust God - absolutely! but your own senses?? "our own senses" is not equal to truth!
 

Chester

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I can't believe I'm actually explaining this....
Flat Earthers don't actually believe that the earth is flat. It's a troll of sorts. What they're saying is that we're getting lied to about pretty much everything. And they're making a bit of a joke out it by saying "since they lie about everything else, then why should we even believe them when they say the world is round?". So do yourself a favor and stop arguing with flat earthers. If you do, then it's just an indicator that you don't even know what you're arguing about.
Ah, if you don't think they believe the earth is flat, then you haven't met of the ones I have yet!

But you are right that this thing that "they lie about everything else" is part of the underpinnings of the flat Earth theory!