The Trump Dictatorship

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PennEd

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I have answered, and will continue to do so.

Abortion is murder and is a sin, but should not be made illegal under all circumstances.

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OK, now what is your answer? 1 through 10?
Nope. Answer my question from post 446 1st.

I need to know what the punishment should be for someone who commits premeditative murder against a human being outside the womb.
 

Tommy379

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So, you do believe in freedom to choose? What a far left radical you are! Ha, ha.
I do believe in choice.

But I don't believe I should make the unilateral decision to terminate another person's life.
 
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To those who are uninformed, can't read or possibly brainwashed by racist nonsense Jesus of Nazareth, our Christ, was born a Jew! Plain and simple fact. Moses too and he was mistaken for being Egyptian. Dark skinned & hair like wool. It had no bearing on what or who they were or what they did. Who cares what they looked like?

that's a far cry from the nonsense posted by alphabet soup who stated he was black, which (take a breath) statement was made because I had the gaul to point out that Obama was half white...which is oh so conveniently forgotten by all the people who think how wonderful we finally had a black pres. bad news. you did not...I was not born in the US and I am continually dismayed by the black/white racial arguments

Jesus would have had olive skinned complexion or darker as did His contemporaries of the time

but by all means yes...let us keep to the plain and simple facts :rolleyes:
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Yes, exactly. Where is the mercy for the women who have had an abortion? No mercy from the republicans, it seems.

The difference is that in these modern times women can have a choice, instead of always being subjected to men by forcing pregnancies.

Where there is law, there must also be mercy.

Where is the mercy for the woman, who will lose her child?

The soul of the child will go to heaven, but the soul of the woman must be saved also. Her soul is in more danger from the eternal flame than the child who was lost before birth.

Shall we condemn her before her time?

Jesus is writing in the sand.

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liberal version of the Bible here?

apparently you are unaware of the FACT some women have multiple abortions

I don't think they give a rat's patootie about their 'child'

they have been brainwashed into thinking it ain't even human

and yes I do still have you on ignorance ignore but because of cali posting now I was curious so I peeked :cool:

dude...Jesus is no longer writing in the sand. His mission on earth is over

He provides forgiveness for all who come to Him

Just really like the way you try to hide your liberalism behind Jesus

no one is buying it...no one who actually knows their Bible anyway
 
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7seasrekeyed

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My computer skills are an embarrassment, and they flat out suck!

I say that because I sooo want to post a big facepalm to your unbelievably ridiculous comment where you agree that not only is abortion a sin against God, but MURDER of an innocent life, yet we should STILL support legally killing babies!!

I mean what kind of a mind can conceive of such a thing?!!

there yah go. I would say the mind that thinks like this is duplistic at best and very deceived at worst

whoever has that kind of mind that is






 

abcdef

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I do it too but there is already a string about abortion, that's all.
Sometimes when people cannot maintain their position, they will attempt to change the subject.

But this is really about Trump and the people who support him, what they say, do, and what they are supporting.

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As Christians we must fight back against lies and confusion, fear and greed, left, independent, green party, or republican, because there is sin in all this world. Jesus is love and reason, faith and giving.

This persuasion is beyond nations, tribes, and politics. It is the kingdom of Jesus and His love, against the world of pain, suffering, and those without love.

Where is the love? It is not an issue of where you live on this planet, or what party you belong to.

Does Trump love his immigrant neighbor as himself? His answer is shown by his actions.

Does Trump and the Republicans show mercy on the poor and those in need? They are not bragging about it in public, but want to end all SS benefits and government supports.

They have increased the debt by a trillion dollars for the wealthy and say that they can't maintain the SS fund.

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Oh wait, Trump loves Czar Putin. Trump wants to be just like him. And the top republicans are helping him.

Who gives a lot of money to the republicans? The NRA.

And where does the NRA get a lot of money from? Czar Putin and the Russians.

That is why they want to obstruct justice. Cause they conspired also, in my opinion. (Soon to be shown by the special counsel.)

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abcdef

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liberal version of the Bible here?
KJV


apparently you are unaware of the FACT some women have multiple abortions
True, they will answer to Jesus, just like the men who beat and raped them.


I don't think they give a rat's patootie about their 'child'
That may be. But most women do.


they have been brainwashed into thinking it ain't even human
This may be true also.


and yes I do still have you on ignorance ignore but because of cali posting now I was curious so I peeked :cool:
I never put anyone on ignore.


dude...Jesus is no longer writing in the sand. His mission on earth is over
Yes, but we are to be like Him, so you and I should both writing in the sand, if not, we are not being Christ like.


He provides forgiveness for all who come to Him
Then we should be forgiving to the woman who loses her child and comes to us.


Just really like the way you try to hide your liberalism behind Jesus
I think that I would rather be a Jesus loving liberal, rather than a professing heartless person.


no one is buying it...no one who actually knows their Bible anyway
I'm just holding up the mirror, what you do, about what you see, is between you and Jesus.

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Jimbone

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Sometimes when people cannot maintain their position, they will attempt to change the subject.

But this is really about Trump and the people who support him, what they say, do, and what they are supporting.

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As Christians we must fight back against lies and confusion, fear and greed, left, independent, green party, or republican, because there is sin in all this world. Jesus is love and reason, faith and giving.

This persuasion is beyond nations, tribes, and politics. It is the kingdom of Jesus and His love, against the world of pain, suffering, and those without love.

Where is the love? It is not an issue of where you live on this planet, or what party you belong to.

Does Trump love his immigrant neighbor as himself? His answer is shown by his actions.

Does Trump and the Republicans show mercy on the poor and those in need? They are not bragging about it in public, but want to end all SS benefits and government supports.

They have increased the debt by a trillion dollars for the wealthy and say that they can't maintain the SS fund.

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Oh wait, Trump loves Czar Putin. Trump wants to be just like him. And the top republicans are helping him.

Who gives a lot of money to the republicans? The NRA.

And where does the NRA get a lot of money from? Czar Putin and the Russians.

That is why they want to obstruct justice. Cause they conspired also, in my opinion. (Soon to be shown by the special counsel.)

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Man I've read so much of what you've posted here and goodness gracious your mind is filled and focused on worldly things. This is just an outside perspective from a stranger, but I see very little focus on the important issues of truth, and a whole lot of focus on what the news tells you to worry about, aka the world. What in the world are you truly accomplishing by raving about Trump on CC? And all this doom and gloom "Trumps the devil" silliness is just as ridiculous now as it was when Obama was the bringer of the end. You are 100% only working to further divide us when you say things like "trump is hateful, Trump is a Nazi, Trump hates immigrants, and turn him into the most evil and demonic person to ever live, then turn around and suggest anyone that supports him, or even disagrees with you, is the same way. Now you can just shut down any conversation because who negotiates with Nazi's right? You need to stop the gang mentality and start dealing with people as image bearers of God, individuals, not labels you assign to them. In my opinion for what it's worth.
 

abcdef

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there yah go. I would say the mind that thinks like this is duplistic at best and very deceived at worst

whoever has that kind of mind that is
You have no real answers, only empty accusations.
 

abcdef

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Man I've read so much of what you've posted here and goodness gracious your mind is filled and focused on worldly things. This is just an outside perspective from a stranger, but I see very little focus on the important issues of truth, and a whole lot of focus on what the news tells you to worry about, aka the world. What in the world are you truly accomplishing by raving about Trump on CC? And all this doom and gloom "Trumps the devil" silliness is just as ridiculous now as it was when Obama was the bringer of the end. You are 100% only working to further divide us when you say things like "trump is hateful, Trump is a Nazi, Trump hates immigrants, and turn him into the most evil and demonic person to ever live, then turn around and suggest anyone that supports him, or even disagrees with you, is the same way. Now you can just shut down any conversation because who negotiates with Nazi's right? You need to stop the gang mentality and start dealing with people as image bearers of God, individuals, not labels you assign to them. In my opinion for what it's worth.
Hi, thanks for your input.

The end of this is the fall of Israel and Jerusalem.

Trump is headed down a road that he does not know where he is going.

Instead of making peace for Israel, he is swatting a hornets nest without a plan.

The isolationism of America, is the end for Israel.

The war for the survival of Israel and Jerusalem cannot be won without the support from Turkey and the NATO allies.

But Trump is abandoning and alienating those allies with tariffs and trade barriers.

The Russians, Syrians, and Iranians, already have Israel surrounded. It is only a short time now until Jerusalem falls.

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abcdef

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Nope. Answer my question from post 446 1st.

I need to know what the punishment should be for someone who commits premeditative murder against a human being outside the womb.
The answer is, it depends on the circumstances, which you are generalizing.

OK, how about a woman who is beaten and raped everyday of her life by a man who has her chained as a slave. Then he kills everybody she loves. Beats her almost to death. Keeps her chained in a prison. Everyday. Beating and raping.

Do you think, that she will just let it continue to happen? Do you think that she will not try to escape, even if it means that she must kill her attacker?

What should be her sentence? She is a premeditated killer. She should be obligated to carry his child? Reminded always. Nightmare after nightmare. PTSD.

This is not one size fits all justice.

Every case is possibly a little different.

You want to start executing every woman who has an abortion regardless of circumstances? YES/NO?

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Tommy379

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The answer is, it depends on the circumstances, which you are generalizing.

OK, how about a woman who is beaten and raped everyday of her life by a man who has her chained as a slave. Then he kills everybody she loves. Beats her almost to death. Keeps her chained in a prison. Everyday. Beating and raping.

Do you think, that she will just let it continue to happen? Do you think that she will not try to escape, even if it means that she must kill her attacker?

What should be her sentence? She is a premeditated killer. She should be obligated to carry his child? Reminded always. Nightmare after nightmare. PTSD.

This is not one size fits all justice.

Every case is possibly a little different.

You want to start executing every woman who has an abortion regardless of circumstances? YES/NO?

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Self defense or defense of a third party is not a crime in common law.

Are you Nancy Grace?
 

abcdef

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Self defense or defense of a third party is not a crime in common law.

Are you Nancy Grace?
So she be forced by the government to carry his child? YES/NO?

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Tommy379

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So she be forced by the government to carry his child? YES/NO?
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Government isn't forcing people not to commit murder. But they sure as hell will enforce laws that prohibit murder.
 

PennEd

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The answer is, it depends on the circumstances, which you are generalizing.

OK, how about a woman who is beaten and raped everyday of her life by a man who has her chained as a slave. Then he kills everybody she loves. Beats her almost to death. Keeps her chained in a prison. Everyday. Beating and raping.

Do you think, that she will just let it continue to happen? Do you think that she will not try to escape, even if it means that she must kill her attacker?

What should be her sentence? She is a premeditated killer. She should be obligated to carry his child? Reminded always. Nightmare after nightmare. PTSD.

This is not one size fits all justice.

Every case is possibly a little different.

You want to start executing every woman who has an abortion regardless of circumstances? YES/NO?

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Nope. Not gonna answer til you do.

I said PREMEDITATIVE murder. That means PLANNED. What should the punishment be?
 
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SpoonJuly

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well hang on a minute

what about the men? women don't get pregnant from eating an apple or even a Georgia peach

what part are men playing?

and I don't really want to get started on who is the bigger sinner, but it seems kind of odd to call women harlot if they get pregnant outside of marriage and men get to do what? go on to the next one?

I hope you see my point

this is really about the attitudes of the liberals and like you say, what about the babies?
Oh, I agree totally, but they do not kill babies. Adultery and fornication takes two and both are equally guilty.
In most cases, men have no say even though they are the father.
 

abcdef

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Nope. Not gonna answer til you do.

I said PREMEDITATIVE murder. That means PLANNED. What should the punishment be?

I did ask you first, and you answered with your question.

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I'll tell you again that there is no simple answer as you would like there to be.

Every circumstance should be considered, but you want to be extreme in one direction or the other. No middle ground ever. No exceptions for rape or incest. Isn't that right?

If they must make a life saving procedure decision where it is the mother or child, you say let the mother die, by law?

You love the unborn child, and hate (love less) the woman?

Will there be exceptions or not?

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You want me to say that a woman who has an abortion should suffer the same penalty as violent criminal murderer?

I say no. There is a difference between the violent mass murderer and a woman who was raped.

You seem to have NO feelings for the woman. No mercy.

Tell me how you feel about the woman. You hate her because she is a sinner? You do not love her? You are better than she is, the harlot, you have no mercy, because she may be a sinner?

If the child is aborted, the soul goes to heaven, but the soul of the woman is still in danger, and she must live with her terrible decision.

Is there no mercy in your heart for her?

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Now be man enough, and Christian enough to answer my question,

What do you believe the penalty should be for a woman who has an abortion, or causes herself to miscarriage, by law?

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abcdef

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Government isn't forcing people not to commit murder. But they sure as hell will enforce laws that prohibit murder.
Sorry, I can't agree with your position that women who have abortions should be executed by firing squad. But you are a Troll/Trump supporter, so that's what we can look forward to, mass executions of woman, the republican dream coming to pass.

Only poor women will be executed. The rich will be able to travel to other places. But maybe you can execute them when they come back.

Maybe you could get a job as an executioner, they will need a lot of them, oh wait, Trump and the republicans create jobs!

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Tommy379

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Sorry, I can't agree with your position that women who have abortions should be executed by firing squad. But you are a Troll/Trump supporter, so that's what we can look forward to, mass executions of woman, the republican dream coming to pass.

Only poor women will be executed. The rich will be able to travel to other places. But maybe you can execute them when they come back.

Maybe you could get a job as an executioner, they will need a lot of them, oh wait, Trump and the republicans create jobs!

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You say Republicans want mass executions of women, yet I'm the troll.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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KJV




True, they will answer to Jesus, just like the men who beat and raped them.




That may be. But most women do.




This may be true also.




I never put anyone on ignore.




Yes, but we are to be like Him, so you and I should both writing in the sand, if not, we are not being Christ like.




Then we should be forgiving to the woman who loses her child and comes to us.




I think that I would rather be a Jesus loving liberal, rather than a professing heartless person.




I'm just holding up the mirror, what you do, about what you see, is between you and Jesus.

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what I see, is you holding the mirror facing you

you have no clue whatsoever of the biblical Jesus

your Jesus is a radical liberal who comes out swinging at His own words and now disagrees with them

the party line: lie often and continually and the lie might become the truth

we see right through you and you are not believable