The Trump Dictatorship

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7seasrekeyed

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abcdef said:
You have no real answers, only empty accusations.
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you are a water carrier for the left without answers, without any truth and without the wherewithal to actually converse like a normal person in a forum where it is as important to listen as it is to post

you have answered basically nothing and only offered insult, names and bald faced lies

my last post to you
 
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7seasrekeyed

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SpoonJuly said:
Oh, I agree totally, but they do not kill babies. Adultery and fornication takes two and both are equally guilty.
In most cases, men have no say even though they are the father.
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well I know for a fact that men not contributing is not the facts here

how many men do you know that have had no say?

because I personally know at least one that gave the woman the money for the abortion

wait...no...actually two. and one was married, pregnant with twins and got rid of them and her husband paid

I doubt you have the ability to state with absolute conviction that men never or rarely have any say

how about the pregnant girlfriend that is told to 'get rid of it'?

one night stands? why should they have any say?

it's just one big disgusting mess

how many men leave their wives with children?

how many men force themselves on a woman and she gets pregnant?

I don't even want to have this discussion, but honestly, your first remark about women was over the top and frankly, more than a little prejudicial
 
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7seasrekeyed said:
well I know for a fact that men not contributing is not the facts here

how many men do you know that have had no say?

because I personally know at least one that gave the woman the money for the abortion

wait...no...actually two. and one was married, pregnant with twins and got rid of them and her husband paid

I doubt you have the ability to state with absolute conviction that men never or rarely have any say

how about the pregnant girlfriend that is told to 'get rid of it'?

one night stands? why should they have any say?

it's just one big disgusting mess

how many men leave their wives with children?

how many men force themselves on a woman and she gets pregnant?

I don't even want to have this discussion, but honestly, your first remark about women was over the top and frankly, more than a little prejudicial
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It's easy to flip that notion around too.
 
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abcdef

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Tommy379 said:
You say Republicans want mass executions of women, yet I'm the troll.
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Ha, ha, ...yea, ...you caught me! I did hide a little troll in that post. Like you aren't trolling at all, ha ha.

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What I am saying is, that I don't believe at all, that Christians want mass executions of women who have abortions.

But Christians live in a world that is against us. And efforts made with the best of intentions are sometimes hijacked by less than honorable persons.

Just as some ministries are stolen by false teachers, or shepherds without a heart for God or His people, laws and worldly governments are the same way.

Those who have been most vocal about government interference in their personal lives, are now willing to pass laws that pry into the most personal decisions in the reproductive lives of men and women.

Maybe a new branch of government to oversee every woman with child.

They say that they don't trust the government to be fair, but now they want government have control over women.

"Government and laws will solve the abortion problem," that is what they say. And in the next breath they say that the government can't do anything right.

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And you don't believe that their would be mass executions?

But on this website they have said that it should be a capitol crime.

Maybe their own words will be used to justify the mass executions, They will say, "Christians said to execute them for murder"?

Once you give the government power, they will do things that you did not want them to do. Christians are not in the majority! Why would you think that things will turn out to be favorable to Christians? When the worldly think of Christians, they think RCC.

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What about the next president? Maybe a, oh no, green party member? Or an independent, Bernie maybe? Do you want them to have the same power that Trump has taken?

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abcdef

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7seasrekeyed said:
what I see, is you holding the mirror facing you

you have no clue whatsoever of the biblical Jesus
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I know that He is love. I know that He still loves women who have abortions even though they have sinned. I know that He is full of mercy. Where is your mercy for the woman who endures this soul wrenching pain?

To those who have shown no mercy, no mercy will be given. Pray for mercy, for all of us.


your Jesus is a radical liberal who comes out swinging at His own words and now disagrees with them
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What does your statement even mean? Try making sense.


the party line: lie often and continually and the lie might become the truth
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I see you know Trump's policy very well.


we see right through you and you are not believable
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You are a Christian, following Trump and continuing to believe his lies, is unbelievable to me.

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abcdef

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7seasrekeyed said:
you are a water carrier for the left without answers, without any truth and without the wherewithal to actually converse like a normal person in a forum where it is as important to listen as it is to post

you have answered basically nothing and only offered insult, names and bald faced lies
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my last post to you
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Promises, promises.

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Blanche

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abcdef said:
I know that He is love. I know that He still loves women who have abortions even though they have sinned. I know that He is full of mercy. Where is your mercy for the woman who endures this soul wrenching pain?

To those who have shown no mercy, no mercy will be given. Pray for mercy, for all of us.




What does your statement even mean? Try making sense.




I see you know Trump's policy very well.




You are a Christian, following Trump and continuing to believe his lies, is unbelievable to me.

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The thing is ... can you really be a Christian and support Trump?
 
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Blanche

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Tommy379 said:
Sure, just like you can be a Christian, and completely stupid, and support socialism.
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A simplistic answer that does not touch the question at hand. Can one support a thrice married, philander,
"nominal" Christian of dubious moral values? And to top it off, a man who is a fool? Obama was a great President and I miss him deeply. He was eloquent and intelligent ... knew the issues . Trump is a buffoon.
Jesus would have been, in most respects, a liberal ... not a conservative. He was all for social justice.
 
PennEd

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abcdef said:
I did ask you first, and you answered with your question.

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I'll tell you again that there is no simple answer as you would like there to be.

Every circumstance should be considered, but you want to be extreme in one direction or the other. No middle ground ever. No exceptions for rape or incest. Isn't that right?

If they must make a life saving procedure decision where it is the mother or child, you say let the mother die, by law?

You love the unborn child, and hate (love less) the woman?

Will there be exceptions or not?

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You want me to say that a woman who has an abortion should suffer the same penalty as violent criminal murderer?

I say no. There is a difference between the violent mass murderer and a woman who was raped.

You seem to have NO feelings for the woman. No mercy.

Tell me how you feel about the woman. You hate her because she is a sinner? You do not love her? You are better than she is, the harlot, you have no mercy, because she may be a sinner?

If the child is aborted, the soul goes to heaven, but the soul of the woman is still in danger, and she must live with her terrible decision.

Is there no mercy in your heart for her?

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Now be man enough, and Christian enough to answer my question,

What do you believe the penalty should be for a woman who has an abortion, or causes herself to miscarriage, by law?

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This is the penalty for 1st degree
Blanche said:
The thing is ... can you really be a Christian and support Trump?
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Tell me how you can be a democrat and a Christian:

 
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7seasrekeyed

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Blanche said:
A simplistic answer that does not touch the question at hand. Can one support a thrice married, philander,
"nominal" Christian of dubious moral values? And to top it off, a man who is a fool? Obama was a great President and I miss him deeply. He was eloquent and intelligent ... knew the issues . Trump is a buffoon.
Jesus would have been, in most respects, a liberal ... not a conservative. He was all for social justice.
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oh here we go again with the name calling

while you point your little stubby index, yah got 3 more pointing at yerself

but it was ok for the Obama duo to lie about being Christians...while attending the anti-Christian church full of vitriolic hatred and screaming sermons against white people

Jeremiah Wright wasn't it?



just what the recipe for stirring up racial tensions called for

yahoo...Wright is also well known for saying God dxxx America

how many years did mr community organizer get his sub notes from this maniac?

I don't need notes on the emancipation of slaves or any other rhetoric either. how 'bout let's talk about Africans selling each other off as slaves in order to make a little profit? something many prefer to blush and just look heavenward about

oh and lookie here. the dynamic duo of hatred!!!




do dah day
 
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SpoonJuly

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7seasrekeyed said:
well I know for a fact that men not contributing is not the facts here

how many men do you know that have had no say?

because I personally know at least one that gave the woman the money for the abortion

wait...no...actually two. and one was married, pregnant with twins and got rid of them and her husband paid

I doubt you have the ability to state with absolute conviction that men never or rarely have any say

how about the pregnant girlfriend that is told to 'get rid of it'?

one night stands? why should they have any say?

it's just one big disgusting mess

how many men leave their wives with children?

how many men force themselves on a woman and she gets pregnant?

I don't even want to have this discussion, but honestly, your first remark about women was over the top and frankly, more than a little prejudicial
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Just for your info.
Over 82% are unmarried.
 
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UnderGrace

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farsideofmoon said:
murdering elephants to get elephant tusks for your personal pleasure was declared unlawful. Trump abolished this so that his son could murder the endangered for no other reason than personal pleasure.

Trump abolished this law for self-serving reasons which in my view combined with all the other violations of the law makes this an impeachable offence.

In my point of view
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First of all, as was already stated, murder can only be applied to human beings, when people cannot stick to the facts that is because they do not have a case.

Secondly, the law was changed to allow Americans to bring back parts of the elephant like the tusk as a trophy, Trump did not change the law about killing elephants, so get your facts straight please.
This is not a sport that is widely accessible to Americans since one has to travel to the heart of Africa.
 
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UnderGrace

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Blanche said:
A simplistic answer that does not touch the question at hand. Can one support a thrice married, philander,
"nominal" Christian of dubious moral values? And to top it off, a man who is a fool? Obama was a great President and I miss him deeply. He was eloquent and intelligent ... knew the issues . Trump is a buffoon.
Jesus would have been, in most respects, a liberal ... not a conservative. He was all for social justice.
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There is no such entity as "social justice" the concept of justice needs no modifiers.

Liberalism is not the left, the left is more closely aligned to anarchy really, the left presently knows no bounds.

Jesus was neither liberal nor conservative ....definitely not a social justice warrior the worst label of all anyone could try to place on Jesus, in fact if you see him that way you do not have the true Jesus in view.

Not once did Jesus ever call on the Roman Empire, or the local Israelite authorities to raise taxes so that the poor and unemployed could be taken care of, socialism is a man made ideology that has no support from scripture.

He was eloquent and intelligent
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:LOL::LOL::LOL:

Since you brought it up on Obama's supposed eloquence, he used a teleprompter most often,
and when he did not have one he bumbled and was mostly incoherent.

 
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abcdef

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Blanche said:
The thing is ... can you really be a Christian and support Trump?
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Hi Blanche,

I believe that you can be a Christian and support Trump. I pray that Trump gets to heaven, and does the right thing in the eyes of Jesus our Lord and Master (teacher). I wish no evil should come to him or any of us.

And I pray that those who hold, the very lives of every person now and future occupants of this planet, in their responsibilities of power, should have the wisdom to understand, that fear, hate, brutality, war, and death is not the way of Jesus and love.

Czar Putin is a ruthless murderer. Killing the people of Ukraine and Croatia everyday, why? why? why?. But he won't stop there. He will be supporting Syria, Iraq, and Iran when they attack Israel. Then Jerusalem will fall.

And the sad part is that some Christians have left the ways of Jesus peace for the ways of Putin war, but then maybe they have really never known the God who is love and the Prince of Peace. I pray that their hearts also be opened.

Being God's children we will disagree in matters of this world. God's children are many, but His mercy is abundant.


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If they cannot see,

It is not up to us who God reveals Himself to, through the Holy Spirit who is love. But we are to stand up for love, love your neighbor as your self, love God/Jesus and showing His ways of love. Love the immigrant as ourselves, love your neighbor county, love those far away.

This time now, this time right now, is our time, all Christians to stand for love, and reason.

It's not about a political party for the Christian, the political party changes over time, its about love, serving love. Walking the path of love for all souls, Jew or Greek.

I just don't see Trump and the senior republican establishment doing that.

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UnderGrace

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abcdef said:
Yes, exactly. Where is the mercy for the women who have had an abortion? No mercy from the republicans, it seems.

The difference is that in these modern times women can have a choice, instead of always being subjected to men by forcing pregnancies.

Where there is law, there must also be mercy.

Where is the mercy for the woman, who will lose her child?

The soul of the child will go to heaven, but the soul of the woman must be saved also. Her soul is in more danger from the eternal flame than the child who was lost before birth.

Shall we condemn her before her time?

Jesus is writing in the sand.

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Where is the mercy for the women who have had an abortion?
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Where is the mercy towards the unborn as they are torn from the womb bit by bit, how would you like to have you leg torn off your body?

Do you think they do not feel pain? You need to be educated.

 
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UnderGrace

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SpoonJuly said:
Oh, I agree totally, but they do not kill babies. Adultery and fornication takes two and both are equally guilty.
In most cases, men have no say even though they are the father.
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It is true that once the woman is pregnant, there are no paternal rights until the child is born, prior to birth the baby is considered to be part of the woman's body.

Sadly, very few men ever try to fight this out in the courts and those that have, have lost. In the 1989 case the man was really torn apart by the outcome, he offered to completely take of the baby and the woman proceeded with the abortion anyway. It was very sad.:(

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