Ukraine the bad guy?

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JohnDB

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so, first " russia is losing money"

now it is " well they have gained money, but it is not what you think".

instead of all this dancing and bopping around, would it not be much easier to just admit the narrative around this is mostly wrong, and is just media propaganda from america and ukraine??
No...
Russia is broke. Their wealthy citizens escaped and used more solid banks outside of Russia. The narrative isn't different or changed. Your understanding is rather juvenile and incorrect.
 

cv5

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No...
Russia is broke. Their wealthy citizens escaped and used more solid banks outside of Russia. The narrative isn't different or changed. Your understanding is rather juvenile and incorrect.
This broke? Or even more broke that this?

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cv5

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Well I think we should vote on it, I'm not so sure we wouldn't agree to give them California.
People are saying that Commiefornia is the new USSR.
 

cv5

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Just to set the record straight:

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How Wicked Russia Controls Western Media. Wicked Russia is a whole evil demonic principality. Fight them in all ways (Ephesians 6:12). Break their control and come out of their spell oh all of God's people. God will win this war, side not with Wicked Russia but watch them and behold how marvellous our God proves himself to all the world in destroying the wicked who make wars for lies and a State of lies. The God of Truth will always defeat the father of lies and his chidlren and we will PRAISE JESUS!

 

cv5

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How Wicked Russia Controls Western Media. Wicked Russia is a whole evil demonic principality. Fight them in all ways (Ephesians 6:12). Break their control and come out of their spell oh all of God's people. God will win this war, side not with Wicked Russia but watch them and behold how marvellous our God proves himself to all the world in destroying the wicked who make wars for lies and a State of lies. The God of Truth will always defeat the father of lies and his chidlren and we will PRAISE JESUS!

Actually there are House Judiciary hearings right now regarding how the FBI and DOJ controls Western media. How wicked and evil is that?
 

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How Wicked Russia Controls Western Media. Wicked Russia is a whole evil demonic principality. Fight them in all ways (Ephesians 6:12).
Did you mean to say USA, or maybe both? The description certainly resembles the current US govmint.
 

PennEd

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I truly get it. Putin and Russia are not the good guys.

But this tweet is ridiculous. The US and NATO promised Russia “not one inch east” in reference to NATO expansion, in the early 90s.

Obviously NATO lied. So in a real sense, at least there is an understanding why Russia has done what it did.

But the absurd gall of NATO saying Russia is provoking them is beyond laughable.
 

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"I'll Be Blunt, It's Failed," Says Congressional Ukraine Caucus Co-Chair On Offensive

They done and said it.....

https://www.zerohedge.com/political...sman-counteroffensive-ill-be-blunt-its-failed

"I think the time has come to realistically call for peace talks. I know President Zelensky doesn’t want it," Harris said. "But President Zelensky, without our help, he would abjectly lose the war. And with our help, he’s not winning. It’s a stalemate now." ."
 

JohnDB

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I truly get it. Putin and Russia are not the good guys.

But this tweet is ridiculous. The US and NATO promised Russia “not one inch east” in reference to NATO expansion, in the early 90s.

Obviously NATO lied. So in a real sense, at least there is an understanding why Russia has done what it did.

But the absurd gall of NATO saying Russia is provoking them is beyond laughable.
This "not one inch" thing is a lie. It was said to a nation that doesn't exist anymore. Maybe you consider verbal and not written treaty promises to the Babylonian Empire binding on the US today....but NOBODY ELSE DOES EXCEPT FOR PROPAGANDISTS.

And as far as the tweet being ridiculous....it's who said it....a former Soviet Bloc nation...Bulgaria.

None of the former Soviet Bloc nations want to rejoin a newly refurbished Soviet Union. They have ALL fought to stop Russia.

So pay attention to the bovine excrement you are being fed to believe.

I lived through this crap before....you do not want to return to it.
 

ZNP

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This "not one inch" thing is a lie.
You got that right, what they really said is not one more dollar for the wall, not one person will care about Palestine, and not one house will remain in Lahaina. Actions speak louder than words.
 

cv5

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This "not one inch" thing is a lie. It was said to a nation that doesn't exist anymore.
Despite the evasive febrile legal minutia vagaries and vicissitudes, do you still believe that NATO expansion into Ukraine was such a good idea?

Because from what I see, it DEFINITELY was not a good idea.....for the cannon fodder Ukrainians. Or their nation's infrastructure. Both of which have been decimated.
 

ZNP

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Despite the evasive febrile legal minutia vagaries and vicissitudes, do you still believe that NATO expansion into Ukraine was such a good idea?

Because from what I see, it DEFINITELY was not a good idea.....for the cannon fodder Ukrainians. Or their nation's infrastructure. Both of which have been decimated.
I'm sorry, did you mean "good" idea or "God" idea?