United Nations Agenda 21

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Silverwings

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Agenda 21 and the Movement Toward a One-World Govt

Written by Raven Clabough

In a report entitled "Your Hometown & the United Nations' Agenda 21" published in The New American's online edition for February 10, journalist William F. Jasper warned:

The UN’s Agenda 21 is definitely comprehensive and global — breathtakingly so. Agenda 21 proposes a global regime that will monitor, oversee, and strictly regulate our planet’s oceans, lakes, streams, rivers, aquifers, sea beds, coastlands, wetlands, forests, jungles, grasslands, farmland, deserts, tundra, and mountains. It even has a whole section on regulating and “protecting” the atmosphere. It proposes plans for cities, towns, suburbs, villages, and rural areas. It envisions a global scheme for healthcare, education, nutrition, agriculture, labor, production, and consumption — in short, everything; there is nothing on, in, over, or under the Earth that doesn’t fall within the purview of some part of Agenda 21.

And things have not improved since. In case the American people do not have enough with which to concern themselves, The Blaze further draws our attention to Agenda 21, a Soros-sponsored plan for world government. Already two decades old, Agenda 21 is a United Nations plan for “sustainable development” that was backed by George H.W. Bush and 177 other world leaders. Despite its seemingly innocuous intentions, The Blaze notes that several items are at risk under the plan: private property ownership, single-family homes, private car ownership and individual travel choices, and privately-owned farms.

The American Policy Center says of Agenda 21:

According to its authors, the objective of sustainable development is to integrate economic, social and environmental policies in order to achieve reduced consumption, social equity, and the preservation and restoration of biodiversity. Sustainablists insist that every societal decision be based on environmental impact, focusing on three components; global land use, global education, and global population control and reduction.

In 1987, Vice President of the World Socialist Party Gro Harlem Brundtland wrote a report for the United Nations entitled "Our Common Future," which explained that environmentalism could be used as a tool to control all the people of the world and establish a one-world government. The Blaze contends that the growth of ICLEI [the International Council for Local Environmental Initiatives] and the creation of Agenda 21 is a step toward bringing Brundtland’s ideas to life. After all, the term “sustainable development” was first introduced by Brundtland.

During the Earth Summit Strategy to Save Our Planet, one of Agenda 21’s planners declared:

Agenda 21 proposes an array of actions which are intended to be implemented by every person on earth. … t calls for specific changes in the activities of all people. … Effective execution of Agenda 21 will require a profound reorientation of all humans, unlike anything the world has ever experienced.

While Agenda 21 was agreed to in 1992, Bill Clinton signed an Executive Order in 1995, establishing a Presidential Council on “Sustainable Development,” which essentially provided a permanent platform for the UN plan by circumventing the approval of both Congress and the American people.

Following the establishment of the Council on Sustainable Development, J. Gary Lawrence, Council advisor to President Clinton, revealed:

Participating in a UN advocated planning process would very likely bring out many of the conspiracy-fixated groups and individuals in our society. … This segment of our society who fear "one-world government" and a UN invasion of the United States through which our individual freedom would be stripped away would actively work to defeat any elected official who joined "the conspiracy" by undertaking LA21 [Local Agenda 21]. So we call our process something else, such as comprehensive planning, growth management or smart growth.

Agenda 21 is supported by ICLEI, which has been funded by George Soros. In fact, in 1997, George Soros’ Open Society provided $2,147,415 to ICLEI in order to support its Local Agenda 21 Project. According to The Blaze, “This type of global plan could not be implemented without a large and well-funded group pushing through its priorities. For that, Agenda 21 has the International Council of Local Environmental Initiatives (ICLEI). And ICLEI is deeply entrenched in America.”

ICLEI’s website reads:

ICLEI USA was launched in 1995 and has grown from a handful of local governments participating in a pilot project to a solid network of more than 600 cities, towns and counties actively striving to achieve tangible reductions in greenhouse gas emissions and create more sustainable communities. ICLEI USA is the domestic leader on climate protection and adaptation, and sustainable development at the local government level.

More than 600 cities in the United States are members of ICLEI, though most residents of those cities are unaware that their local governments are agreeing to rules and regulations dictated by a UN-based organization regarding property rights.

As observed by The Blaze, “sustainable development” is a more pleasant term for “social justice/socialism,” described by Agenda 21 as the right of the people “to benefit equally from the resources afforded us by society and the environment.” In layman’s terms, "social justice" is the justification for wealth redistribution.

The American Policy Center explains that Agenda 21’s support of wealth redistribution justifies private property restrictions, because to the proponents, private property “is a social injustice since not everyone can build wealth from it.”

This aspect of Agenda 21 should come as no surprise to anyone familiar with the United Nations. UN officials have never been fond of individual ownership of land, asserting the following during a UN Conference on Human Settlements:

Land cannot be treated as an ordinary asset, controlled by individuals and subject to the pressures and inefficiencies of the market. Private land ownership is also a principal instrument of accumulation and concentration of wealth and therefore contributes to social injustice; if unchecked, it may become a major obstacle in the planning and implementation of development schemes. The provision of decent dwellings and healthy conditions for the people can only be achieved if land is used in the interest of society as a whole.

The American Policy Center indicates that Agenda 21 has manifested itself in a variety of local projects, including Smart Growth, the Wildlands Project, Resilient Cities, Regional Visioning Projects, STAR Sustainable Communities, and most "green" initiatives including green building codes.

Cities pay dues to ICLEI so that the organization may provide community plans, software, and training. The relationship between local cities and ICLEI is funded primarily by government and foundation grants.

In California, Agenda 21 is already working on plans for sustainable management of open spaces. Debate over what open space entails has highlighted divisions between those who are directing the planning meetings and American citizens, including liberal Democrats, who are still interested in protecting private property rights.

In Austin, Texas, the city council approved an “Energy Conservation Ordinance” in 2008. The ordinance adds a new chapter to the city code relating to energy conservation audit and disclosure requirements, and creates an offense and imposes penalties.

Angered by the city council’s consideration of the ordinance, a group called Texans for Accountable Government began to scrutinize the council’s adoption of Agenda 21-friendly initiatives. TAG Member John Bush delivered a brief but concise presentation on Agenda 21 and ICLEI just prior to the vote that ultimately approved the ordinance.

In addition to private property concerns, Agenda 21 is opposed to the free market system. The Blaze reports:

In the world of business Agenda 21 is not a free market friend, preferring PPPs or Private Public Partnerships where the government decides which companies will receive tax breaks and are allowed to stay in business. In light of this realization, the cozy relationship between the current administration and GE (a company that paid no federal tax in 2010) should raise eyebrows. And the WH efforts to tell Boeing in which state they can operate seems to further bolster the belief that Agenda 21 ideals are already making headway in America.

Fortunately, a number of Americans are waking up and demanding that their towns and cities retract their membership from ICLEI. In fact, the Roanoke, Virginia, Tea Party is holding a rally this week in order to draw attention from their local government and ask that it remove itself from ICLEI.
 
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I'm not going to call anyone names, but this thread really should be in the Conspiracy Forum.
 
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I'm not going to call anyone names, but this thread really should be in the Conspiracy Forum.
Agree. Agenda 21 is highly debated as a conspiracy.
 
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Then why are the states fighting it?
I'm not saying it's not news. I agree that it is. But the impression on the surface, by most is conspiracy. There's nothing wrong with being in that forum, then again I like going against the grain.
 

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This is how we can expect Silverwings to operate in the future.
I am a female thank you
He will read headlines and stories on his nutty alternative internet web site and then pass them on to everyone here, as if they are important.
I think you should allow everyone the choice of deciding for themselves what is important
One of his stories says that Seal Team Six did not kill Bin Laden, but rather the Seal Team was killed and Bin Laden lives on. That is the kind of insanity his online news site is disseminating.
You were wrong on the Seal Team, prove the Bin Laden theory
In regards to his concerns about the U.N. suggesting people around the world take better care of the environment, as part of what is called Agenda 21, he fails to put the 1992 story to rest. The U.N. says all sorts of stupid things.
And we need to be aware of thier plots
They went all in on global warming and hired a bunch of cheats and liars to spread hysteria about the worlds climate.

Silverwings needs to read deeper into the groups of people he supports. In 2012, a birther activist told Republican state senators in Georgia that President Barack Obama and the UN were using mind control to implement Agenda 21 in the United States. Opponents have claimed that the program could force people to live in urban areas and bring an end to golf, scuba diving, and floor and ceiling tiles. There are a lot of kooks out selling fear and panic. Don't do them a favor and spread their nonsense on this site.
What is your agenda, it is certain that you have one because you have attacked me so viciously!!
Tell us, Silverwings, do you also believe Bin Laden is still alive and Seal Team Six was killed, as your "reliable" alternative news site says?
You speak of "us" in a way that would seem that you are speaking for the whole group, and I assure you tht you are not!!
You have not yet proved that the site mentioned is not legitimate!!!
One more thing. Do you plan to keep using the bright red lettering as though anything you post has super duper importance? Cuz it doesn't and you come across like a grade school kid sending text messages to others about seeing some girls underwear out on recess.
Why are you intentionally trying to intimidate me?
 

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Agenda 21 & George Soros

by: Bill Perkins




Agenda 21 coverIf we're living in the latter days of the latter days, and I believe we are, then Satan should be in high gear getting ready for his world takeover.
Whether we have two days, two years or twenty years before the Rapture of the Saints, a simple review of national and world events should uncover Satan's latter-day tactics of his run-up to power.


And a simple review shows, as always, Satan has been quite busy as the "god of this world" (2 Cor 4:4) ...causing chaos and seeking to destroy Christians and non-Christians alike (1 Pet 5:8).

Thankfully Believers have a power within them that is exponentially greater (1 John 4:4). We can boldly do what God has called us to do with the gifts He has given us, knowing it is He who is in ultimate control.

For Americans there are two things of which many Christians seemingly are unaware: "Agenda 21" and "George Soros." Both have had a huge effect on the direction of the United States for the last 15 to 20 years and to disregard them as just "conspiracy theories" could literally lead to our downfall as a world power—or even the loss of freedoms we take for granted.

But understanding what and who they are, and the detrimental influence they have had on our country, is absolutely necessary to know...unless you want to take an ostrich approach to our problems.

So below is a summary of Agenda 21...not meant to be fully in-depth, but hopefully enough to give you the big picture.


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Agenda 21
While Christian conservatives are focused on the fight to elect politicians who espouse Biblical values, most of us are unaware of the socialism being inserted into our local communities through Agenda 21. Never heard of Agenda 21? If not, that's what they're counting on.

Agenda 21 is a world agenda that is directly affecting your life, liberty and pursuit of happiness...yet few have even heard of the phrase.

Agenda 21, in a nutshell, is a United Nations program promoting socialist goals that attack U.S. constitutionally protected freedoms and liberties.

(And if you're not worried about the stupid U.N., think again. Liberals are pushing for the U.N.'s laws to be superior to our laws. But that's a whole different subject I won't get into now.)

Agenda 21 is the blueprint for the United Nations to control the world. Yes, they actually think they can. And the Bible says eventually there WILL be a world government, so we're watching Bible prophecy being fulfilled.
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Agenda 21 is an abbreviation of "The Global Agenda for the 21st Century." It got its start in 1992 when the United Nations held a huge conference in Rio de Janeiro called "The United Nations' Conference on Environment and Development" or "The Real Earth Summit."

Few conservatives, much less Christians, Rio real earthpaid much attention to this meeting, but an astonishing 18,000 people attended from 178 countries!

The U.S. Congress never approved Agenda 21, but President George H. W. Bush (Senior), Clinton and Obama have all signed Executive Orders implementing it in the U.S.!

According to U.N. literature, Agenda 21 is a comprehensive plan of action to be implemented globally, nationally and locally by the U.N. to cover every area in which humans affect the environment...which is, of course, everything.

Sustain devThe program is not secret, but openly promoted within the U.N.'s public socialistic objectives.

However, they stealthily have substituted the words "Sustainable Development" for "Environment" in order to be more acceptable to Americans. So pay attention to the word "sustainable" in the future.

Since the Rio Summit, the U.N. has mostly bypassed national governments using Agenda 21's International Council of Local Environmental Initiatives (ICLEI) to make agreements directly with local governments.

ICLEI's U.S. presence has grown through the years to include agreements with over 600 cities, towns and counties here implementing land use plans laid out in Agenda 21. ICLEI

Several cities have realized what ICLEI was up to and banned them from operating. Four states are discussing ways to stop ICLEI from operating—Kansas, New Hampshire, Tennessee and Arizona. But most people are simply unaware of both their presence and/or their agenda.

Agenda 21's world goals include combating poverty, changing consumption patterns and reducing private ownership (homes, cars, farms, etc.). So what does this mean?

Poverty—The U.S. has too much money compared to the rest of the world; therefore, its wealth must be redistributed to the rest of the world under the banner of "social justice."

Changing consumption patterns—The U.S. is only 5% of the world's population but consumes over 20% of the world's energy. That is considered extravagant and has to be corrected.

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These ding-bats know Americans have too much control of their lives due to the large amount of private ownership of houses, cars, farms, savings, etc. And they want to solve that problem so we can be more easily controlled by the U.N.

Most of us would laugh off the above as being ridiculous. But they are not only serious but have been stealthily implementing this since 1992!

They also just despise the large percentage of gun owners in America. Surely you've noticed that they bash gun owners every chance they get. More on this later.

Once the broad goals are adopted locally, then come the demands to allow overreaching regulations. Have you ever wondered where all these weird regulations in so many local governments are coming from? Agenda 21!
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Eventually, they want control of the way Americans live, eat, learn and communicate. They want to be able to limit water, electricity and transportation.

Agenda 21 authors admit that it "...calls for specific changes in the activities of all people." No one would be free from the watchful eye of the proposed global tracking and information system.

Sound familiar? Rev 13:16-18 talks about getting to the point that every person on the planet will be controlled from one place.

This happens a few years after the Rapture, so as this moves along, the closer we are to our "twinkling of an eye" exit (1 Cor 15:51-52).

The ultimate goal of Agenda 21, now cleverly referred to as "Growth Management," "Smart Growth," or "Comprehensive Planning," is to cram people into small livable areas in order to institute population control.

Wildlands map
Map shows areas in red to be cleared of humans, as mandated by the U.N. Man and Biosphere Program

Naturally, one wonders how the heck they think private property is up for grabs until you look at the U.N. Charter compared to the U.S. Constitution.

UN vs USWhen the U.S. tries to claim that we must get the approval of the U.N. to implement an action, then we're in effect saying that we are under the laws of the U.N., not under the laws of the U.S.

And the laws of the U.N. are not the same as the U.S.! The U.N. laws leave just enough wiggle room to do pretty much whatever they want to achieve their goals. Where the U.S. Constitution demands compensation for property seizures, the U.N. does not!

Agenda 21 includes a plan for "social justice" that will redistribute wealth. The U.S. is one of the wealthiest countries in the world, and naturally uses more energy, so we will be the hardest hit by environmental regulation.

But rather than using "environment," a word people are getting weary of, they are substituting the word "sustainability."

The goal of "sustainability," i.e. using government to accomplish vague earth-caring goals, is contrary to U.S. free market capitalism.

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It's not the smoke they hate, it's just a
ruse to regulate private business.

Third world countries that cannot financially afford to comply with the ridiculous environmental regulations will continue their high levels of fossil fuel consumption, forcing the U.S. to conserve even more to make up for those countries.

Obama signed Executive Order 13575 establishing a "White House Rural Council" prescribed by Agenda 21. The amount of government resources Obama has directed to administer this order is almost unbelievable
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Not surprisingly, Obama committed thousands of federal employees in 25 federal agencies to promote "sustainability" in rural areas, completely bypassing Congressional approval!

Not all of these agencies are even related to rural areas. Their agenda is to entice local communities into adopting Agenda 21 programs by providing them millions of dollars in grants.

Rural areas, 16% of the U.S., are fast becoming directly controlled by the Federal Government—including education, food supply, land and water use, recreation, private property and energy.

Agenda 21 will be difficult to defeat now that it is already ingrained into over 600 local governments across the U.S. It IS possible that if Republicans take over the White House, the President could ban Agenda 21. But don't hold your breath.

So the only way to actually fight this thing is to fight it locally. "Texans for Accountable Government" is doing this by educating local boards and commissions and serving on them. It's going to take that kind of grass roots action. See link below.

But don't miss the main objective of the U.N., which is total control of everyone and everything.


Even if it seems far-fetched to you and me, the fact is they believe it and the Bible predicts it. And for the world's elitists (Satan's minions) the U.S. is the last stumbling block to total control.

Links
Link to a presentation by TAG to an Austin, Texas, city council meeting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h-lTRxKu3A

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George Soros

"The main obstacle to a stable and just world order
is the United States." - George Soros


What George Soros is doing makes Agenda 21 look like a Girl Scout meeting. Just unbelievable!

Soros is Hungarian by birth, has Jewish roots and changed his name from Schwartz to avoid the German persecution of Jews in the 1930s. He's a multi-billionaire, non-practicing Jew who has fully embraced atheism. He is a socialist, leaning toward Marxism and loathes the capitalistic United States.

In 1944 Soros worked under Adolf Eichmann in Hungary during WWll and has referred to that year as one of the best years of his life. Eichmann was overseeing the murder of 500,000 Jews while at the same time confiscating their property. So it's a bit difficult to understand why Mr. Soros calls it a great year.

After WWll, Soros attended the London School of London School econEconomics where he was tutored by the infamous atheist Karl Popper, learning how to implement and manage social engineering.

In 1956 Soros moved to New York City where he worked on Wall Street amassing a fortune in the capitalistic world of hedge funds and currency speculation.

Considered to be absolutely ruthless, amoral and shrewd, he had amassed his fortune by the mid-1980s. In 1992 he shorted the British pound, pound symbolleveraging billions in paper financial bets, causing Britons to see their homes devalued and life savings' purchasing power cut by 1/3 almost overnight.

Soros was involved in and hugely financially benefited from the collapse of the former Soviet Empire as well as the financial problems in Thailand and Malaysia. Thai activist Weng Tojirakarn said, "We regard George Soros as kind of a Dracula. He sucks the blood from the people."

The Russians are so mad at Soros they issued an arrest warrant for him. Calling him an "International Financial Terrorist," they claim the Russian Secret Service found that he was using foreign currency derivatives to start an attack on the Russian Currency Shares in the market.
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When you throw in his roles in the financial problems in Yugoslavia, Georgia, Hungary, Ukraine, and Myanmar (formally Burma), you can better understand why and how his tightening tentacles of globalization and the New World Order give him more and more power.

Soros once told a major Australian newspaper, "America, as the center of the globalized financial markets, was sucking up the savings of the world. This is now over. The game is out." He added, "The time has come for a very serious 'adjustment' in America's consumption habits."

You may recall that our esteemed President Obama committed some 10 billion dollars of aid to Brazil to give them an investment advantage as they expanded their offshore oil fields. This was done at the same time he was denying permits to U.S. companies to drill in the waters off our own coasts.
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But what you probably didn't know was that his aid to Brazil came shortly after his largest political financial backer, George Soros, had invested heavily in a Brazilian oil company named Petrobras.

Tait Trussel writes, "The Petrobras deal may be a windfall for Soros and Brazil, but it's a bad deal for the U.S."

The American Petroleum Institute estimates that had the Obama administration allowed the same type of drilling in waters off the U.S. coasts, it would have created some 150,000 new, high-wage jobs in the U.S. Not to mention somewhere in the range of 1.7 trillion dollars in federal, state and local revenue....which, of course, would move us toward energy independence.

(Have you ever wondered why Barack Hussein Obama will not allow the Canadian pipeline and off-shore drilling that would give us huge amounts of oil, but rather wants us to pay through the nose to the Arabs?)

Soros loathes America and has been actively working to destroy it for years, backing candidates who support extreme liberal positions like open borders, a one-world foreign policy, legalized drugs, euthanasia and progressive positions supporting rights and entitlements.

His support has been critical in electing many of the more radical Democrats who replaced moderates.

David Horowitz and Richard Poe authored the book, "The Shadow Party." It's a detailed outline of how Soros got control of the Democratic Party and now pretty much calls all the shots.

It shows how the Shadow Party became the Shadow Government, which became the Obama Administration. In "The Shadow Party" the authors say:
Soros strings
"By Soros' own admission, he helped engineer coups in Slovakia, Croatia, Georgia and Yugoslavia. When Soros targets a country for 'regime change,' he begins by creating a shadow government, a full-formed government-in-exile, ready to assume power when the opportunity arises."

"The Shadow Party Soros has built in America greatly resembles those he has created in other countries prior to instigating a coup," says the DiscoverTheNetworks.org

In the November 2008 edition of the German magazine "Der Spiegel," Soros was quoted on what he thought the next U.S. President should do immediately after taking office: "I think we need a large stimulus package...around 600 billion dollars."
Obama & Soros
When Obama and the Democrats were swept into office, Soros said, "I think Obama presents us a great opportunity to finally deal with global warming and energy dependence. The U.S. needs a cap-and-trade system with auctioning of licenses for emissions rights." This, of course, is exactly what Obama is seeking.

In 2008, Soros donated five billion dollars to the Democratic National Committee, both to secure Obama's election win and elect as many far-left liberals as possible. Yes, you read that right, five billion dollars to the Democrats!

These eye-popping donations, actually beginning during the Clinton administration, have continued through today. He controls dozens of companies through which he funnels money to promote his causes.

Ted Behr, who is a Christian and a movie critic, spoke at one of our Steeling the Mind Conferences and lamented that he has proof that G-Rated family movies are hugely profitable but he can't get the major studios to invest in them.
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Surprise surprise, turns out that Soros has huge influence in the entertainment industry. He owns 2.6 million shares of Time Warner and therefore can insist they avoid scripts with conservative Christian values. Have you ever wondered why almost every major movie has at least one pro-homosexual scene?

His influence in the mainstream media is also quite heavy. MSNBC calls those who identify with the Tea Party "dangerous radicals" while praising those in the Occupy movement.

Richard Poe writes, "Soros' private philanthropy, totaling nearly 5 billion dollars, continues undermining America's traditional Western values. His giving has provided funding of abortion rights, atheism, drug legalization, sex education, euthanasia, feminism, gun control, globalization, mass immigration, gay marriage and other radical experiments in social engineering."
Soros heavily supports MoveOn.org, Media Matters for America, the Tides Foundation, the ACLU, ACORN, Planned Parenthood, the Occupy Movement and many more. You can get a complete list and descriptions at DiscoverTheNetworks.org.

In summary, George Soros is an anti-American, anti-Christian, far-left liberal billionaire and is on a no-holds-barred fight to take America down in order for his vision of a new world order to be instituted.

As hard as it is to believe that one guy can have this much impact, it's true. But the answer for Believers is not only voting for candidates who stand on Biblical values. We also must pray for our nation to wake up to what is going on. Otherwise, the land of the free may come to a screeching halt much sooner than any of us dreamed.

Bottom line—Armor up with God's Word! God allowed us to live at the time we do. Be ready to defend what you believe. Below are great DVDs with a wealth of info. Order 'em and pass 'em around!!

Bill



Some of the Soros information was researched and compiled by CBS reporter Steve Kroft.
Link to a presentation by TAG to an Austin, Texas, city council meeting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h-lTRxKu3A
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White House Executive Order on Rural Council
http://dancingczars.wordpress.com/tag/10-billion-taxpayer-dollars-to-petrobras/
http://lettingfreedomring.com/2012/...tp://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=47009

Bill Perkins is the founder and Executive Director of Compass International, Inc.
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That is how conspiracy folks think. They tell you something like Bin Laden is still alive and then tell you it is up to you to prove otherwise.

I suppose that if I was living in a small hillbilly town, about the size of Adolphus, Kentucky, and had nothing better to do with my time. I might go off the deep end and begin posting on various online forums, like disqus, telling people Hillary Clinton has a severe heart condition and I can prove it by showing a picture of her stumbling while walking up a staircase. Or I could tell you Bin Laden is still alive. Or I could ask my online friend Gayla, if she agrees with me and believes every conspiracy theory that we both read. Gayla would probably agree with Silverwings. I'm almost positive.

Can I request that you ease off the throttle a bit and try to realize that burying us in text is not how you prove conspiracy theories. Maybe you can show us a picture of Bin Laden to prove he is alive and that our Seal Team is not a bunch of liars who made up the story of killing him.
 

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The Source is suspect, at best. About - OSNet Daily

I live in one of those "mega areas." I grew up in Jersey -- The Garden State. 21 million people live there and yet Jersey tomatoes and peaches are still legendary.

I got lost in Jersey a couple of days ago. I couldn't pull over to ask for directions because trees, streams, fields, and crops do NOT give directions. Very frustrating.

When I came home, I told hubby what road I was on and then asked him if I'd ever get back into civilization. (He was an HVAC mechanic in Jersey, so he knows the terrain.) He laughed. Yes, I would. In an hour! This is the mega area your questionable source is talking about. Yeah, we're tripping all over each other.

You really need to make yourself at home in the Conspiracy Theory forum.

This is the News Forum.

Sorry Lynn, but I'm pretty familiar with N.J. having grown up there and N.J. has less than 9 million, not much more than NYC.

I think the conspiracy is real. Whether they can achieve their goals or not are still in question. These are the same people who created the American Stonehenge, or Georgia guidestones. Check it out. These people are dead serious and spent a lot of time and resources telling us how they will try and reduce global pop. to half a billion.

You can go there and see this evil creation. Or ... just google it.
 
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Hey bro, Seal Team Six was killed. You know that right? Are you asking if it was conspiratorial or are you denying that 22 members of ST6 were killed?
Please don't call me bro. We're not on the junior high football team. I'm aware of the helicopter with military personnel, including members of Seal Team Six, being shot down three months after Bin Laden was killed by members of Seal Team Six. The kooks on conspiracy web sites are trying to suggest Bin Laden was never killed by Seal Team Six and that they died in the crash before the attack on his compound. You would do yourself a very big favor if you steered clear of these types of threads and the people who embrace such nonsense. I promise you that if you went to work tomorrow and started telling your coworkers that Bin Laden was never killed and the President and the leaders of our military and the Seal Team members who allegedly killed him are all a bunch of liars, you would find yourself being ostracized very quickly, and rightly so. Don't you think it's hard enough to get people to listen to the gospel message, you don't need to alienate people further by broadcasting to them that you are unhinged and embrace bizarre conspiracy theories made up on the internet and never substantiated by any evidence.
 
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Up next, Space Aliens will Invade next Monday. also the world economy will crash in September
 
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Please don't call me bro. We're not on the junior high football team. I'm aware of the helicopter with military personnel, including members of Seal Team Six, being shot down three months after Bin Laden was killed by members of Seal Team Six. The kooks on conspiracy web sites are trying to suggest Bin Laden was never killed by Seal Team Six and that they died in the crash before the attack on his compound. You would do yourself a very big favor if you steered clear of these types of threads and the people who embrace such nonsense. I promise you that if you went to work tomorrow and started telling your coworkers that Bin Laden was never killed and the President and the leaders of our military and the Seal Team members who allegedly killed him are all a bunch of liars, you would find yourself being ostracized very quickly, and rightly so. Don't you think it's hard enough to get people to listen to the gospel message, you don't need to alienate people further by broadcasting to them that you are unhinged and embrace bizarre conspiracy theories made up on the internet and never substantiated by any evidence.
Lol, Ok sir. We're all good here. Just clarifying the ambiguity of what you said which led me to believe you stated their actual death was a hoax.
 

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Billionaire George Soros spent $33MILLION bankrolling Ferguson demonstrators to create 'echo chamber' and drive national protests
Hedge fund mogul's Open Society Foundations made huge donations
Organizers bussed in from New York and D.C. to take over campaigning
Different cash recipients would repeat each others' messages
Helped to keep events and messages at the top of news agenda
Soros cash, from speculating on markets, is given to many liberal causes
By KIERAN CORCORAN FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 11:41 EST, 16 January 2015 | UPDATED: 14:42 EST, 16 January 2015

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Donor: Billionaire George Soros donated $33million to social justice groups which helped perpetuate the national debate over Ferguson
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Donor: Billionaire George Soros donated $33million to social justice groups which helped perpetuate the national debate over Ferguson
Liberal billionaire George Soros donated $33million to social justice organizations which helped turn events in Ferguson from a local protest into a national flashpoint.
The handouts, revealed in tax filings from Soros's private foundation, were given to dozens of different groups which weighed in on the crisis.
Organizers from professional groups in Washington, D.C., and New York were bussed into the Missouri town to co-ordinate messaging and lobby to news media to cover events using the billionaire's funding.
The flood of donations were uncovered in an analysis of the latest tax return by Soros's Open Society Foundations by the Washington Times.
The cash was reportedly funneled into keeping up numbers of protesters in the community over a period of months by bringing in outside activists.
Meanwhile papers from think tanks were disseminated to bring in extra coverage of the civil unrest, also linked to the police killings of Eric Garner in Staten Island and Tamir Rice, 12, in Cleveland, Ohio.
Outlets which covered the research, and the movements themselves, included one, Colorlines, which Soros himself has funded.
The slew of organizations reportedly created their own online 'echo chamber', by using their extensive social media presences to 'like', repost and comment on articles putting across their point of view.
The director of Soros's fund said that they have no direct control over the groups they give to, and said they are all trying to improve accountability.
Bankrolled: Tax filings revealed that Soros pumped millions into groups that bussed protesters to Ferguson, Missouri, from around the country and co-ordinated campaigns to keep it in the media
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Bankrolled: Tax filings revealed that Soros pumped millions into groups that bussed protesters to Ferguson, Missouri, from around the country and co-ordinated campaigns to keep it in the media
He told the Washington Times: 'Helping groups combine policy, research [and] data collection with community organizing feels very much the way our society becomes more accountable.
'The incidents, whether in Staten Island, Cleveland or Ferguson, were spontaneous protests - we don’t have the ability to control or dictate what others say or choose to say.'
The Soros cash was also put to work driving buzzwords and social media campaigns to propel Ferguson into the national consciousness.
One recipient of his funding is the Organization for Black Struggle, which in turned established a group called the Hands Up Coalition, that has helped make ubiquitous the 'hands up, don't shoot' slogan.
Unrest: Some of the groups Soros funded came up with slogans and social media campaigns to keep the event in the national consciousness
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Unrest: Some of the groups Soros funded came up with slogans and social media campaigns to keep the event in the national consciousness
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The words are reference to how contentious witness accounts describing how Michael Brown was raising his hands in surrender when Ferguson officer Darren Wilson shot him dead this August.
Soros also gave money to the Drug Policy Alliance, which worked on the perpetuation of the 'black lives matter' buzz phrase, which has been incorporated into speeches by political figures including Hillary Clinton.
The billionaire's fortune was made from speculating on financial markets, most notably making more than $1billion in the 1990s helping cripple the British financial system by speculation on the pound sterling.
He is currently ranked at number 17 on the Forbes 400 richlist, with an estimated worth of $24billion.


Read more: George Soros spent $33MILLION bankrolling Ferguson protesters | Daily Mail Online
 

Nautilus

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ugh if you are going to continue posting your wacko conspiracy theories in the inappropriate forum I will just start reporting everything single post one appears in.
 
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If states are passing laws against it, it is news. That is not a conspiracy, that is called legislation. i don't understand why this is hard for people to understand.
It seems on this site, that just about everyone who does not like or agree with something says this source is suspect.
Look at whose site that is. I gave the link. Read it.

And after you have? Tell me who that source is. Staying anonymous and declaring you are out to prove something just to be different is a big clue it's not a good source.

Source matters. If it does not, then take your news about states rights from NORML.

And feel free to do that, but keep it on the Conspiracy Theory forum too. This is a news forum, after all.

It seems to me anyone who really doesn't want to understand the news will blame that on others speaking up about what is news. Fiction usually says something about reality, but it is not supposed to be mistaken for reality.
 
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Sorry Lynn, but I'm pretty familiar with N.J. having grown up there and N.J. has less than 9 million, not much more than NYC.

I think the conspiracy is real. Whether they can achieve their goals or not are still in question. These are the same people who created the American Stonehenge, or Georgia guidestones. Check it out. These people are dead serious and spent a lot of time and resources telling us how they will try and reduce global pop. to half a billion.

You can go there and see this evil creation. Or ... just google it.
Hmmm, I wonder where I got 21 million? (Rhetorical. You'll get lost if you try to figure out my mind. lol)

But, nah. Not really into checking out how folks plan on doing something that just isn't ever going to happen. The good news is at least we know not having kids isn't ever going to catch on, unlike some other whacky thoughts truly becoming part of the landscape.
 

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When I see a super long post that I'm just going to skim past the bold red letters are helpful.

I don't think we should be too concerned about nonbelievers being scared away by some of our theories.
If God has chosen them, then they will be saved, and it might appeal to people who want to come to Jesus
but are afraid they would not be accepted because of their own theories.


It may have been a glitch that I experienced one day, but maybe someone can answer this.
Is the conspiracy forum hidden from guest users?
 

Silverwings

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Yahoo Answers
It is an agreement signed by 178 countries in 1992 to include the US (George H W Bush). Its the New World Order he spoke about. It is driven by global climate change and the result is supposed to be equal economies, environments, and societies world wide. It is to be financed by Western Nations because they are blamed for global climate change. It is to create total interdependency between nations so that none can survive without the others. That is supposed to lead to peace because if any country gets out of line, the UN will be able to control them. Different international organizations have been spreading our wealth since 1992 through trade agreements. There is also now a global financial system. We have UN peacekeepers, the IMF and World Bank. The WHO determines what nations need to do for a good health care system. The Declaration of Human Rights will replace our Bill of Rights. The Human Rights have to do with housing, water/food, health care, and some kind of education, not individual rights.

Sustainable Development is being initiated all over the world. Its known as Smart Growth. It stops further development in the suburbs or people from buying an acre of land to build a home. The counties develop zoning laws that prohibit private citizens from using their land as they choose. The end result is for 50% of the land in the US to be off limits to human beings. People will be living in urban areas in high rise apartments divided equally according to race, culture, etc and all income levels will live the same. (except for the elites) Its why we have "migration" rather than enforcing our immigration laws. There will be very few single family dwellings. It will likely become unaffordable due to energy costs, high taxes, and regulations. Eventually they want no automobiles, just train travel. Farming will be done by each urban area. They will raise their own food on surrounding acreage designated for agriculture. The whole US has already been mapped out for human developments which will mostly be in the middle eastern part of the US. Nobody will own anything and consumerism will not exist. No meat. Rationed water. Regional government officials. Global government.

Entire states have already begun Smart Growth. California would be one of them. There are many lawsuits concerning the EPA and private land use at this time. Also against local governments as people are more and more finding that due to zoning laws, their property becomes worthless.
 
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Yahoo Answers
It is an agreement signed by 178 countries in 1992 to include the US (George H W Bush). Its the New World Order he spoke about. It is driven by global climate change and the result is supposed to be equal economies, environments, and societies world wide. It is to be financed by Western Nations because they are blamed for global climate change. It is to create total interdependency between nations so that none can survive without the others. That is supposed to lead to peace because if any country gets out of line, the UN will be able to control them. Different international organizations have been spreading our wealth since 1992 through trade agreements. There is also now a global financial system. We have UN peacekeepers, the IMF and World Bank. The WHO determines what nations need to do for a good health care system. The Declaration of Human Rights will replace our Bill of Rights. The Human Rights have to do with housing, water/food, health care, and some kind of education, not individual rights.

Sustainable Development is being initiated all over the world. Its known as Smart Growth. It stops further development in the suburbs or people from buying an acre of land to build a home. The counties develop zoning laws that prohibit private citizens from using their land as they choose. The end result is for 50% of the land in the US to be off limits to human beings. People will be living in urban areas in high rise apartments divided equally according to race, culture, etc and all income levels will live the same. (except for the elites) Its why we have "migration" rather than enforcing our immigration laws. There will be very few single family dwellings. It will likely become unaffordable due to energy costs, high taxes, and regulations. Eventually they want no automobiles, just train travel. Farming will be done by each urban area. They will raise their own food on surrounding acreage designated for agriculture. The whole US has already been mapped out for human developments which will mostly be in the middle eastern part of the US. Nobody will own anything and consumerism will not exist. No meat. Rationed water. Regional government officials. Global government.

Entire states have already begun Smart Growth. California would be one of them. There are many lawsuits concerning the EPA and private land use at this time. Also against local governments as people are more and more finding that due to zoning laws, their property becomes worthless.
Let me guess. You went out back and dug yourself a great big hole and made it into a bunker to hide in? Then you have stocked up on food and ammunition. Then you felt it was your responsibility to tell everyone else about the end of the world, so they can go out back and dig a great big hole and make a bunker to hide in. My advice is spend less time warning us about doomsday and turn off your computer and keep digging that hole out back so we don't have to read any more of your posts. I'll even buy the shovel for you.