Why do Christians support Trump?

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wolfwint

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I just can not see any way to support him. Ok, so we are all sinners and of course he has sinned plenty. I do not see him repenting of anything. He condoned the the brutal murder of Jamal Khashoggi. He has numerous close ties to organized crime, e admitted in recently released audio that he knew Covid 19 was dangerous and airborne. He admitted to lying and said he did not want to cause panic. But he is constantly trying to cause panic by exaggerating threats from migrants and exaggerating Democrats as being radical, instilling unnecessary fear. Besides, if he spoke to the public the way he spoke to Woodward, it would have saved many lives and possibly alleviated the economic crisis. I see him being anti-Christian in everything he does as says. Michael Cohen's book quotes him saying about Christians faith, "Can you believe that bulls...?" From my pint of view he hates God, hates Christians, hates America and humanity. I hope no Christian will vote for him this go around.
Well, you have to choose between Pest and Cholera. If I would have to choose, I would choose Trump, because he supports Israel and is supporting the family. Some values, which I cant find behind the democrates.
And I would Think I support not Trump itself but the republican values. Trump in my eyes is a tool in Gods hand.
We have to expect that the world politicans will be more worse. Anyhow the antichrist and his System must be prepared to come.
So I am thankful if some politicans support Christian values.
In germany we have the AFD, which is supportet from Christians, too. But they have to much antichristian thinking, that he Christians values they support are to less for to support them.
 

rastai

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Is President Donald Trump Really Pro-Life? - Fr. Jonathan Meyer - 1.26.2020

It is not that Trump is a sinner, it is that he is a mafia man who is literally fighting against God in every imaginable way. I hope he does see the light, but up until this time he has only caused destruction.
 
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lenna

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I just can not see any way to support him. Ok, so we are all sinners and of course he has sinned plenty. I do not see him repenting of anything. He condoned the the brutal murder of Jamal Khashoggi. He has numerous close ties to organized crime, e admitted in recently released audio that he knew Covid 19 was dangerous and airborne. He admitted to lying and said he did not want to cause panic. But he is constantly trying to cause panic by exaggerating threats from migrants and exaggerating Democrats as being radical, instilling unnecessary fear. Besides, if he spoke to the public the way he spoke to Woodward, it would have saved many lives and possibly alleviated the economic crisis. I see him being anti-Christian in everything he does as says. Michael Cohen's book quotes him saying about Christians faith, "Can you believe that bulls...?" From my pint of view he hates God, hates Christians, hates America and humanity. I hope no Christian will vote for him this go around.

the actual question should be 'why would anyone, Christian or otherwise, support Biden et al

but in the meantime, let's take a look at all this talkity talk you have going on


1. He condoned the the brutal murder of Jamal Khashoggi. yes? proof ?

2. He has numerous close ties to organized crime, really? proof?

3. I do not see him repenting of anything. oh I didn't know you live in the White House and have 24/7 xray vision

4. he is constantly trying to cause panic by exaggerating threats from migrants and exaggerating Democrats as being radical, instilling unnecessary fear right. because it would be so much better if we all had MS13 gang members as neighbors, not to mention drug dealers, rapists, thieves and other shadow human beings playing in our children's swing sets.
the other thing here, is that you accuse him of lying re covid when he did not want to cause panic and now you say he is causing panic. maybe it is how you view things? you know, lopside while hanging your head upside off your couch with CNN on the tv


do you know what Marxism or Communism is? if not, that would be because of the excellent leftist agenda in today's classrooms

I guess you have not had your business burned to the ground or all windows broken in your store and all goods stolen or your car set on fire while you are in it etc etc etc

5. I see him being anti-Christian in everything he does as says. myopic vision presented by tunnel vision presented by liberal media outlets. so you are ok with late term abortions or killing those already born? oh that's great. vote left then

and this is why the education system needs a systemic overhaul
 
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lenna

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It is not that Trump is a sinner, it is that he is a mafia man who is literally fighting against God in every imaginable way. I hope he does see the light, but up until this time he has only caused destruction.
so let's see

it is ok to be a mafia man but not if you are Trump

but then Trump is not a sinner, he is a mafia man

did I get that right?

actually not sure there is a way to get that right :unsure:

What is scary is the current administration. I would welcome 2 actual decent Christians as the next administration.
good it's not up to folks who are as confused as are you. but then if you vote...........that is what is scary here
 

rblazer

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@rastai Mainstream evangelicals are mainly voting for Trump because for whatever reason, he is pro-Israel. They feel a vote against Trump is a vote against 'the apple of God's eye'. This one factor sways me to Trump but I also see your valid points.
Re abortion I have heard Republicans say they use it as a voting tool and Roe v Wade was voted in by a Rep Court.
You have the right to follow your conscience as this is still a free country. God bless you!
Israel is not the reason i vote for trump, its because he has kept his promises to the American people on the economy, trade getting involved in wars etc...... he says a lot of things I wish he would not say but at least you know where you stand with Trump, now in Bidens case he has been a lying corrupt politician for 47 yrs and even as things come out all of the left has their blinders on to his corruptness.
 
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lenna

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After reading all that I wonder when Trump has time to breathe.

Here is what the Democrats are planning to do...

One. Make it easier to kill more babies in the womb.

Two. Make it easier to kill more babies in the womb.

Three. Make it easier to kill more babies in the womb.

you forgot molesting those who are actually allowed to be born and live
 
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lenna

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going to a church service does not prove anything.

i mean, a person can go to a church service and go get into their car, and stream porn.


did going into a building make that o.k. ??

right

because you stand in a garage does not make you a car
 

rblazer

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i have seen people talking about criminalizing abortions if roe was overturned, actually overturning roe would not make abortion illegal it would return the authority to the states where it belongs not to the bloated federal government.
 
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lenna

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Actions speak louder than words.
If someone claims that they are health conscious and smokes and eats fast food. Most would doubt their claim with.
If an individual exercises and eats healthy, it's obvious that their health is important without declaring it.
can you actually name which 'church' was attended by the O family before he was ushered into his pre planned position?

and the name of the man who preached there?

and what that man preached?

does the name Jeremiah Wright ring a bell?

Trump does not smoke or consume alcohol. he is overweight along with almost 40% of Americans

Mrs O is no shrimp either while telling everyone else what to eat. she is built like a tank
 
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lenna

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Republican policies make you more likely to be dead from disease, poverty, and violence.

oh I don't know....:unsure:

we are not diseased, poor and suffer no violence in our household

in fact, we have a done very well. mind you, we work for what we have and my husband would pick cotton if he had to because he is not lazy and does not depend on handouts or other people's money. neither do I, but I would not pick cotton though

6. Crazy unfounded conspiracy theory. Vast majority of BLM supporters want nothing to do with communism.
and that is a sad sad fact due to the ignorance of most being unaware of the BLM agenda. they have toned down their points on their website though. sneaky little devilish liars

are you a troll?
 
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I dont know if it should be legislated. it is a complicated issue. I could be swayed to illegalize it but first you have to address the fact that republicans do not care about children after they are born. If you really want to stop it and make it illegal, then you have to start with supporting children and families. That means universal healthcare, guaranteed food security, guaranteed housing. Right now the majority of Americans believe abortion should be legal. Only way that will ever change is if you stop the gross inequality that exists. Republicans will never change until they get the money out. The right wing billionaires don't care about abortion. They can just fly to Mexico or Canada to get one if need be. They are funding the republican party because of money, specifically the money out of poor and middle classes and into their own pocket. If you really want to end abortion then you have to start with improving the lives of born children. Until that happens you are fighting a losing battle.
You kinda just expect the republican party to solve the worlds problems before you would agree to make it illegal. Republicans??? The only thing is ....it probably wouldn't need to be illegal then.
 

Infinite_Ark

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My vote was mail in for 2016 as it shall be this election. My answer as to why Trump is simple. It would be personally offensive to vote Democrat.
 

Infinite_Ark

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1. We will always have the poor does not mean that we need to have people with billions of dollars and others with nothing. Poor and rich are relative to eachother. We could have a society where the poorest in society do not have luxuries but still have basic needs such as food, clothes, housing and a means to a better life if they apply themselves.

2. Republican policies make you more likely to be dead from disease, poverty, and violence.

3. Yes(mostly)

4. I support democrats and I want a world with little or no abortion so not sure what you mean.

5. Literally nothing you said is remotely true other then that he defunded planned parenthood.

6. Crazy unfounded conspiracy theory. Vast majority of BLM supporters want nothing to do with communism.

7. Does not mean greed don't exist.

8. ok

9. If they are getting richer, then they can afford to pay a higher minimum wage for those jobs.

10. Studies show that abortion has more to do with socioeconomic factors then anything else.
Some people say that the poverty and violence in cities with Democratic leadership is more causation rather than correlation.
I think it happens to be both. https://amac.us/americas-25-worst-cities-are-democrat-led-the-answer-new-leaders/
 

true_believer

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can you actually name which 'church' was attended by the O family before he was ushered into his pre planned position?

and the name of the man who preached there?

and what that man preached?

does the name Jeremiah Wright ring a bell?

Trump does not smoke or consume alcohol. he is overweight along with almost 40% of Americans

Mrs O is no shrimp either while telling everyone else what to eat. she is built like a tank
Ahem....
 

rastai

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the actual question should be 'why would anyone, Christian or otherwise, support Biden et al

but in the meantime, let's take a look at all this talkity talk you have going on

1. He condoned the the brutal murder of Jamal Khashoggi. yes? proof ?

2. He has numerous close ties to organized crime, really? proof?

3. I do not see him repenting of anything. oh I didn't know you live in the White House and have 24/7 xray vision

4. he is constantly trying to cause panic by exaggerating threats from migrants and exaggerating Democrats as being radical, instilling unnecessary fear right. because it would be so much better if we all had MS13 gang members as neighbors, not to mention drug dealers, rapists, thieves and other shadow human beings playing in our children's swing sets.
the other thing here, is that you accuse him of lying re covid when he did not want to cause panic and now you say he is causing panic. maybe it is how you view things? you know, lopside while hanging your head upside off your couch with CNN on the tv


do you know what Marxism or Communism is? if not, that would be because of the excellent leftist agenda in today's classrooms

I guess you have not had your business burned to the ground or all windows broken in your store and all goods stolen or your car set on fire while you are in it etc etc etc

5. I see him being anti-Christian in everything he does as says. myopic vision presented by tunnel vision presented by liberal media outlets. so you are ok with late term abortions or killing those already born? oh that's great. vote left then

and this is why the education system needs a systemic overhaul
 

rastai

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1. Look it up. Even some republicans were upset that he was giving the crown prince a pass.
2. He owned casinos in Atlantic city where a tone of high profile mobsters and their associates gambled, and made made numerous associations with Trump. There are many articles on this.
3. He has stated that he does not like to say sorry. He has done so much evil and I have never seem him express any type of regret.
4. MS13 huh? Yes he lied about covid to not cause as he put it "a panic" aka a stock market crash. And yes he prevented a stock market crash I suppose. Meanwhile in Trump's America billionaires see there wealth go up exponentionally while working people suffer. The panic he causes is with his fearful and godless base who believe his lies about Marxism and communism for example. There is absolutely nothing remotely communist about the American left. Do you even have any idea what communism is? I think not. If my business got burned to the ground I would blame whoever did it and I would also blame whoever instigated the chaos to begin with.
5. What liberal media outlets. All the mainstream media do not do any justice to the Ameican people. They sugar coat Trump's evil and normalize his propaganda. I get most of my news from alternative sources. You can watch state run fox, cnn etc if it suits you. Late term abortion are not part of the left's agenda. Do ou know what is part of the right wing agenda? Taking money and resources out of working and poor peoples pockets and into the coffers of billionaires. Thank God for the democrats. If republicans had their way we would all be slaves.