Why do Christians support Trump?

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rastai

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oh I don't know....:unsure:

we are not diseased, poor and suffer no violence in our household

in fact, we have a done very well. mind you, we work for what we have and my husband would pick cotton if he had to because he is not lazy and does not depend on handouts or other people's money. neither do I, but I would not pick cotton though



and that is a sad sad fact due to the ignorance of most being unaware of the BLM agenda. they have toned down their points on their website though. sneaky little devilish liars

are you a troll?
oh I don't know....:unsure:

we are not diseased, poor and suffer no violence in our household

in fact, we have a done very well. mind you, we work for what we have and my husband would pick cotton if he had to because he is not lazy and does not depend on handouts or other people's money. neither do I, but I would not pick cotton though



and that is a sad sad fact due to the ignorance of most being unaware of the BLM agenda. they have toned down their points on their website though. sneaky little devilish liars

are you a troll?
So you think BLM is out to turn the USA into a communist state? lol wow. Go ahead and believe that. Most people who support are not card carrying members they simply believe that black lives matter. that is all. Keep being scared of the big mean BLM coming to instill their communist regime in America. Sorry but this is beyond ridiculous. Meanwhile another conspiracy is happening out in the open and you can't see it.
 

DWR

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What is scary is the current administration. I would welcome 2 actual decent Christians as the next administration.
And what two decent Christians are you talking about.
Surely you are not suggesting the Democratic candidates fill that bill.
If you believe they are Christians you do not understand what a Christian is.
 

mustaphadrink

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So you think BLM is out to turn the USA into a communist state? lol wow. Go ahead and believe that. Most people who support are not card carrying members they simply believe that black lives matter. that is all. Keep being scared of the big mean BLM coming to instill their communist regime in America. Sorry but this is beyond ridiculous. Meanwhile another conspiracy is happening out in the open and you can't see it.
To be able to answer that mindset you have to understand what is involved. Because it is being fed by Satan himself, like him, they are an angel of light. If they stood on the podium and said "We want to turn America into a communist state", how much support do you think they would get" How much support do you think that would get if they declared that they want to take over the universities and use them to turn America into a communist state?

Of course, they are too clever to say things like that. Their modus operandi is to latch on to genuine causes and make it what they want it to be. That is why universities are singing the communist song because they have infiltrated them with a 5th column and made it sound legitimate and make anything that is not communist sound like it is a real problem.

The truth is they could not give a damn about black lives. UNLESS they can use the mantra to further their own ends. Did Hitler announce that he was going to be a fascists dictator? He became the treasurer and saved Germany from financial ruin and when he became Chancellor of course they applauded him and welcomed him to the role.

BLM is being used by the Communists to further their ends. They have said this enough times to know that it is true.
 

rastai

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And what two decent Christians are you talking about.
Surely you are not suggesting the Democratic candidates fill that bill.
If you believe they are Christians you do not understand what a Christian is.
And what two decent Christians are you talking about.
Surely you are not suggesting the Democratic candidates fill that bill.
If you believe they are Christians you do not understand what a Christian is.
Well I do not know what Christianity is to you. Christ revealed to me the nature of his character. And in what he revealed to me, democrats represent Christian values for the most part whereas the republican agenda is anti Christian.

For example Trump wants to cut food stamps while people are suffering= Anti Christian
Democrats want a stimulus where more money and aid go to families= Christian
 

rastai

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To be able to answer that mindset you have to understand what is involved. Because it is being fed by Satan himself, like him, they are an angel of light. If they stood on the podium and said "We want to turn America into a communist state", how much support do you think they would get" How much support do you think that would get if they declared that they want to take over the universities and use them to turn America into a communist state?

Of course, they are too clever to say things like that. Their modus operandi is to latch on to genuine causes and make it what they want it to be. That is why universities are singing the communist song because they have infiltrated them with a 5th column and made it sound legitimate and make anything that is not communist sound like it is a real problem.

The truth is they could not give a damn about black lives. UNLESS they can use the mantra to further their own ends. Did Hitler announce that he was going to be a fascists dictator? He became the treasurer and saved Germany from financial ruin and when he became Chancellor of course they applauded him and welcomed him to the role.

BLM is being used by the Communists to further their ends. They have said this enough times to know that it is true.
I am not seeing that. If it is the case, why not condemn wahtever communist tendencies and praise the genuine concerns expressed by BLM. Surely you realize that most of those who support BLM just want to see social change, end police brutality. What BLM has become at this point seems to be concerned with that plight and i am not seeing that communist agenda. If you are saying they are waiting to implement some dark agenda well that is a conspiracy theory and most conspiracy theories turn out to be wrong.
 

mustaphadrink

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Well I do not know what Christianity is to you. Christ revealed to me the nature of his character. And in what he revealed to me, democrats represent Christian values for the most part whereas the republican agenda is anti Christian.

For example Trump wants to cut food stamps while people are suffering= Anti Christian
Democrats want a stimulus where more money and aid go to families= Christian
Democrats want to open the doors to abortion at any time and for any reason. = Christian ?????????
 

mustaphadrink

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I am not seeing that. If it is the case, why not condemn wahtever communist tendencies and praise the genuine concerns expressed by BLM. Surely you realize that most of those who support BLM just want to see social change, end police brutality. What BLM has become at this point seems to be concerned with that plight and i am not seeing that communist agenda. If you are saying they are waiting to implement some dark agenda well that is a conspiracy theory and most conspiracy theories turn out to be wrong.
It is not a conspiracy theory because that is what they have said. I watched a speaker from the communist cartel behind BLM say that on TV.
 

rastai

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Ok but that is just one person making a comment. That person does not represent the over 50% of americans who support the movement does it?
 

Ahwatukee

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Well I do not know what Christianity is to you. Christ revealed to me the nature of his character. And in what he revealed to me, democrats represent Christian values for the most part whereas the republican agenda is anti Christian.

For example Trump wants to cut food stamps while people are suffering= Anti Christian
Democrats want a stimulus where more money and aid go to families= Christian
You mean those democrats who exaggerated the Covid virus for their agenda, which cost people their jobs and businessesa and who want to close business down again if Biden is elected?

The Democrats are the ones who are behind BLM and Antifa for the purpose of blaming on Trump. They could impeach Trump and so they have been using everything they can to keep him from being reelected, including the use of Corona virus, BLM and Antifa. They are behind all of it. The democrats don't care one iota about the constitution or the American people. They don't want to represent us, but want to be a group of dictators over us, taking away our rights and controlling us. Everything they do is for a pretense. They remind me of the Pharisees and religious leaders of Jesus time.
 

Ahwatukee

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Ok but that is just one person making a comment. That person does not represent the over 50% of americans who support the movement does it?
The actions of the BLM do not support your claim. They burned buildings, cars, smashed windows and looted, attacked people at restaurants and in their homes and communities, etc. This is not about black lives, but about anarchy and lawlessness, period!
 

rastai

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Democrats want to open the doors to abortion at any time and for any reason. = Christian ?????????
Not any of the Democrats I know. I have conversations with democrats who say that they agree with republicans on abortion. The problem is myself and many other democrats cannot get on board with the rest of the republican agenda. ie corporate welfare, kids in cages, cutting assistance programs, a president "joking" about serving 12 years. It is terrifying. If banning abortion is a noble cause, and I am not saying it isn't, you should not have to make a deal with the devil in order to get it done. You are giving up too much for abortion. Be against abortion and be for social welfare, food security, etc.
 

mustaphadrink

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Ok but that is just one person making a comment. That person does not represent the over 50% of americans who support the movement does it?
I have to admit I love your naivety. According to your figures 50% of Americans do not support it.

I was watching America Got Talent and a troupe of Black boys came on and did a dance routine that was amazing. It was so energetic and original. Their story goes that they were trying to pull themselves out of poverty and were helping other black boys do the same. I said to my wife that would do more for black lives than any protest. The audience was ecstatic about them and gave them a standing ovation.
 

rastai

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You mean those democrats who exaggerated the Covid virus for their agenda, which cost people their jobs and businessesa and who want to close business down again if Biden is elected?

The Democrats are the ones who are behind BLM and Antifa for the purpose of blaming on Trump. They could impeach Trump and so they have been using everything they can to keep him from being reelected, including the use of Corona virus, BLM and Antifa. They are behind all of it. The democrats don't care one iota about the constitution or the American people. They don't want to represent us, but want to be a group of dictators over us, taking away our rights and controlling us. Everything they do is for a pretense. They remind me of the Pharisees and religious leaders of Jesus time.
They did not exaggerate, they just listened to the medical professionals. I actually anticipate things opening up more under a Biden admin. I keep hearing how BLM burned down businesses but I have not seen any proof of the individuals who did those things and I have not seen if they were actual BLM supporters or just anarchists. I do not agree with burning or breaking anything but when I look I do not see BLM doing any of that. I see outside agitators. That plus the fact that studies showed over 98% of BLM protests were 100% peaceful. That is not the story your mainstream media feed though. Democrats want everyone to have health care, that does not seem like an evil agenda to me. We actually just want to help people. If there are democrats with their own secret agenda then they should be called out. The agenda for the Democrats is equaity and social justice under the law, health care for all, food security, a cleaner healthier planet. These are not evil agendas.
 

mustaphadrink

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Not any of the Democrats I know. I have conversations with democrats who say that they agree with republicans on abortion. The problem is myself and many other democrats cannot get on board with the rest of the republican agenda. ie corporate welfare, kids in cages, cutting assistance programs, a president "joking" about serving 12 years. It is terrifying. If banning abortion is a noble cause, and I am not saying it isn't, you should not have to make a deal with the devil in order to get it done. You are giving up too much for abortion. Be against abortion and be for social welfare, food security, etc.
Not any of the Democrats I know must mean you don't know very many or you don't want to know the truth as I have read it more than once that if Biden wins they are going to take the wrecking ball to the gains the Republicans have made to slowing down abortion and undo the good that the republicans have done to prevent the murder of innocent babies.
 

mustaphadrink

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They did not exaggerate, they just listened to the medical professionals. I actually anticipate things opening up more under a Biden admin. I keep hearing how BLM burned down businesses but I have not seen any proof of the individuals who did those things and I have not seen if they were actual BLM supporters or just anarchists. I do not agree with burning or breaking anything but when I look I do not see BLM doing any of that. I see outside agitators. That plus the fact that studies showed over 98% of BLM protests were 100% peaceful. That is not the story your mainstream media feed though. Democrats want everyone to have health care, that does not seem like an evil agenda to me. We actually just want to help people. If there are democrats with their own secret agenda then they should be called out. The agenda for the Democrats is equaity and social justice under the law, health care for all, food security, a cleaner healthier planet. These are not evil agendas.
So you are happy for the poor to subsidize the health care of the rich which is what the Democratic policy means?
 

rastai

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I have to admit I love your naivety. According to your figures 50% of Americans do not support it.

I was watching America Got Talent and a troupe of Black boys came on and did a dance routine that was amazing. It was so energetic and original. Their story goes that they were trying to pull themselves out of poverty and were helping other black boys do the same. I said to my wife that would do more for black lives than any protest. The audience was ecstatic about them and gave them a standing ovation.
That is great. Unfortunately not everyone has or is able to express that kind of talent. Some can use their talents to get out of poverty. Some become top athletes or entertainers or they overcome their conditions to have a successful business or career. But the obstacles are many and many do not overcome their obstacles.
 

rastai

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So you are happy for the poor to subsidize the health care of the rich which is what the Democratic policy means?
I do not think the battle to end abortion will be fixed by any court. It is a spiritual battle. Yes it is true democrats want women o have the choice as to what to do with their bodies. Many democrats still feel it is wrong but that it cannot be fixed through laws. Some women have abortion because they are selfish and some out of desperation. Which is which who knows as we cannot see into their hearts and minds. I believe that we as a society can eliminate those abortions that are a result of desperation. At that point the only abortions left would be those based on selfishness and at that time people could get behind making it illegal. So that is in my humble opinion the best way to end abortion. It has to be done through social welfare and equal rights under the law. That is why I bllieve the Democratic agenda will do more to end abortion.
 

mustaphadrink

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I do not think the battle to end abortion will be fixed by any court. It is a spiritual battle. Yes it is true democrats want women o have the choice as to what to do with their bodies. Many democrats still feel it is wrong but that it cannot be fixed through laws. Some women have abortion because they are selfish and some out of desperation. Which is which who knows as we cannot see into their hearts and minds. I believe that we as a society can eliminate those abortions that are a result of desperation. At that point the only abortions left would be those based on selfishness and at that time people could get behind making it illegal. So that is in my humble opinion the best way to end abortion. It has to be done through social welfare and equal rights under the law. That is why I bllieve the Democratic agenda will do more to end abortion.
I love your naivete. The best way to end abortion is to make it illegal. Simple as that. But that will never happen under the Democrats because their policy is to make abortion available to anyone at any time for any reason so the fact is they have no interest whatsoever to end abortion.

And if it is a case of women having control of their bodies, why can't they control their bodies when it comes to sex. That is just an excuse to cover up that they do not have control over their bodies. If they did, there would be no need for abortions. No, they are not interested in having control of their bodies. They are only interested in destroying an innocent baby that results from them not having control over their body.

If you eliminate those abortions caused by desperation, and you are left with those that happen because of selfishness, then you still have 98% of abortions to deal with as only 1% and maybe 2% is because of desperation.

As for people getting behind making selfish abortions illegal, in your dreams. I have been on a March for Life and seen some of the hate-filled, angry, rude, vicious, foul-mouthed, and downright malicious women whose faces are contorted with rage who believe that violence is the answer to all their demands and who will not countenance anything other than legalized open slather on abortion. I have seen them push over an elderly lady walking with the aid of a stick.

People like that cannot under any circumstances be reasoned with. They are demon-possessed and they have made their bed so they have to lie on it.
 
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So you think BLM is out to turn the USA into a communist state? lol wow. Go ahead and believe that. Most people who support are not card carrying members they simply believe that black lives matter. that is all. Keep being scared of the big mean BLM coming to instill their communist regime in America. Sorry but this is beyond ridiculous. Meanwhile another conspiracy is happening out in the open and you can't see it.

get educated

you sound like a billboard for the blind following the blind