Are All The Women On CC Really Materialistic, Soul-Draining Vampires?

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seoulsearch

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Hey Everyone,

I admit to doing a lot of thinking today. All of us get frustrated, and for the times we women get frustrated with you gentlemen, I wholeheartedly apologize.

But the thing I've noticed lately is the intense stream of threads that basically tell us women everything that's wrong with us: how we need to submit, how we're too materialistic, and how we expect to be put on pedestals and worshiped like queens. I understand that men get frustrated, I really do, and I really am sorry for that.

But I have to wonder to myself: Guys, from reading the posts here at CC, would you say that most of the women here are what's being described? Cold, heartless, blood-sucking monsters who think only of themselves and their own material gain? Insubordinate, rebellious hellions who would never agree to submit themselves to a God-given husband? Would you say this is true of even half the women who post here on CC?

I understand that men need to vent. I've had great Christian guy friends who have struggled with a lot things regarding women--one used to call me every week and vent for hours. "Kim," he would say, "There are only two kinds of women: those who want money, and those with serious emotional problems." He had been through a lot, and I admit, sometimes it was hard to listen to. But the difference was, he never treated me personally as if I were one of the women who had hurt him. He always went out of his way to tell me thank you for being his friend and for offering a different point of view, and that's what kept me going. (He even later met a great Christian girl and is now happily married... and I'm grateful that he told me thank you for being there for him while he was struggling through a lot of negative emotions.) But I admit... it drained the life out of me at the same time. But I asked God what to do, and felt that my role was to try to help... and to serve... by listening.

Now, here's where I have to ask God's help in taking the plank out of my own eye. Many times in the threads, I have complained about my own personal experience of running into Christian men who are addicted to pornography. But, I've tried to never write a thread that said, "Why Do Men Say They're Christians When They're Addicted to Porn?" The reason I try to avoid this is because 1. I know not every guy is like that and, 2. The men here who are brave enough to talk about it are also very open about seeking God's help to change.

Guys, I do know you're frustrated with the way some women act, and we women are just as fed up as you.

But I ask again, and very honestly--do the women here, from what you've read in the posts we take so much time and heart to write, really sound like the same types of women who have hurt you so much? If not, please, please, consider that we are all trying our best and please don't lump us all into the same category. Yes, we are women, but in most cases, we are not the women who wronged you. Please listen to what we have to say and, maybe when you do need to vent (as we all do from time to time), perhaps it could be worded in such a way as, "Ladies, I'm really, really fed up with being treated like a wallet from time to time. I've read some posts from many CC women who have different hearts and I'd like to ask your advice as to how to avoid these types of women?"

I am not trying to sound self-righteous, nor am I trying to say women are perfect. But what I AM saying is that when I read posts from people here, I see a very honest, very sincere, very heartfelt group of people who care about others and are devoting their lives to serve God and allow Him to help them become better people.

All I ask is that could we please recognize that many of the people here, both men and women, are trying their best and allowing God to work with them? May I please respectfully ask that we recognize them as individuals and not one of the masses who mistreated you or broke your heart?

Again, I apologize to the gentlemen here if you've ever felt I have "lumped you altogether" in any of my posts. We have AWESOME guys here and the ladies of CC appreciate each one of you.

We just hope that maybe, just maybe, you might also feel the same way about some of us.
 
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Tintin

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I've met some horrible girls and women in real life but on here on CC I've never had a problem with any of you (except for that troll who was 'cracking' onto me awhile back).
 
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FireWire

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All women have the ability to hurt whether Christian or not. I've never understood why women get so aggrieved when they get hurt by a guy yet when it's obvious they've been doing the hurting it's like they think there are no consequences.

Is it because of poor treatment in the past (which is what started feminism) and men haven't "paid all their dues".

I read somewhere recently that when God deals with a nation that it ends with the humbling of it's women. Whether this is true I don't know.

I've been mistreated by a lot of women and told what was wrong with me. Some of it was unfair. However, all wrongs will be dealt with by God. It's the same for men mistreating women. Every action that amounts to sin has consequences right?
 
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iTOREtheSKY

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Ummm hellooooo?? Did you not see the thread I posted a week ago titled "The Women of CC Rock"?????????????
What I am tired of is more & more of these threads posted over & over & over & over again by what seems the same handfull of members. Granted,I haven't been here as long as some of you,but holy cow...in sheer boredom I have gone back years in the threads only to see (maybe worded slightly different) the same exact polls,and title threads...and many are to do with this topic and even by some of the same people. I can totally understand a noob starting a thread like this...and when I say "noob" I mean a fairly new person who's come to Christ. I think it's we stop focusing on all the problems men & women have with each other & star building God's kingdom together.
I'm sure some people reading this will say I am being harsh or rude or too critical,and I'm sorry if that's the case.
I will say I am a tad frustrated,which I know is not of God...but my intentions are pure. I just think lately there's been so many threads which in the end almost seem to give glory to the devil,simply because nothing gets resolved & it causes more division. Anyhooo...I do get what yer' saying seoul & please don't feel as though I am berating you that's not my intent.
 
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zaoman32

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I've stated my views on this subject very clearly on here several times. I'm no more a fan of men telling women how to behave than of women telling men how to behave. As much as we think we can see things from the other genders perspective, or think both genders are no different from the other, it's just not the truth. Men and women are different, we each have strengths the others don't, we each have weaknesses the others don't, God made us to compliment each other.

From my brief, but so far only experience in having very close relationships with women, I've been dumped, manipulated, and emotionally abused. I've never started a thread to tell all women they needed to knock that behavior off, because not all women are like that. It makes me wary of starting a new romantic relationship with a woman, but that's my own problem, not theirs.

We're all human, we will never be perfect. Take note that many of the guys who make up the threads you're talking about are single...big shocker.
 

T_Laurich

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I never take the threads about women being bad or guys being bad seriously. There are always going to be those with extreme views and nothing anyone can say is going to change what they think.
 
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Anyway, if a materialistic soul-draining vampire asked me out I'd probably still say yes. :p Especially if she looked like this one.

 
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maxwel

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Materialistic soul-draining vampires...

Well, that does describe a lot of women I've met.
: )

I don't really know the women here on CC. I'm sure they're far above the norm, or instead of being here, they'd all be on "HowToMarryaHeartlessMaterialisticGuy.com"

Although I'm sure there are plenty of wonderful gals out there, I have dated some pretty horrid women.
I simply can't speak for men, because honestly... I've never asked one out.
: )
 

seoulsearch

OutWrite Trouble
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Hi Tore,

Yes, I've seen a few threads here that have tried to be encouraging to the ladies and I do appreciate it. It's interesting though... it just seems like most times, they get derailed pretty badly. Case in point right here... but the pictures are pretty good. :)

And yes, Zero, I understand that if a vampire were good-looking enough, a man would ask her out (henceforth what gets us all into trouble a lot of times... paying more attention to looks than what's inside.) (But yes, I agree, Kate Beckinsale is gorgeous.)

You will be happy to know, however, that I am neither a Team Jacob nor a Team Edward. :D (A good friend of mine is really into Twilight and made me watch the first 3... I told her, "Yes. I can tell they're vampire movies because I feel as if hours of my life have been sucked away.": :))
 

Liamson

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There are some women who only focus on the negative and their own war against hurt and pain.

I simply don't have the energy to try and convince them that there is more beautiful things to life, more beautiful things to love and more beautiful things to Post about on CC than this.

Its like trying to convince a bird that it can fly. If I threw it out of a tree and it just fell its only going to hate me for it.
 
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1still_waters

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There are those who hate the rain because it ends with a rainbow.
There are those who despise the rainbow because it came with rain.

All are a mixture of each.
But people despise the mixture.

Those who can grasp the rainbow and the rain, are those who can grasp what really matters.

Thunder.
Some people fear.
Some people marvel.
Some people marvel and fear.

The toolbox of joy allows all to grasp all.
But does one want to pick up that toolbox?
 

Nautilus

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Yes, but you're better than the secular materialistic, soul-draining vampires...?
 

seoulsearch

OutWrite Trouble
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Yes, but you're better than the secular materialistic, soul-draining vampires...?
Ah, you gotta love a man who knows how to charm. :)

The thing that bothers me so much is the "lump sum." I've been working since I was 11 years old and have often had 2-3 jobs. I've never asked a man to help me with my bills or buy me things to get ahead materially, ever. Every relationship I've been in has been with a guy who was the one who expected me to help him. So... hearing about all these materialistic women over and over and over again... I guess it just grates my soul the wrong way, and I apologize for that.

I just have to choose not to be offended because I know it's something that doesn't apply in all cases.

I suppose out of my own frustration I could write a thread that says, "Men Are All Porn-Addicted Freaks, But Hey, The CC Ones Are Half A Step Up", but, I'm trying to be good. Honest. (And of course, women struggle with these issues as well.)

It's just that... the guys out there who aren't into porn are going to be offended because it doesn't apply to them, and the ones who are struggling but taking it to God are going to feel defeated. I guess I'm just asking for some basic consideration is all. It's just unfair to throw everyone into the same bucket, is all I'm trying to say.

(And, just a quick note for Stillwaters--you seem to be feeling very poetic today :) Very cool, and thanks.)
 

seoulsearch

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Another experience I had was that I had a male friend in college who was struggling with an addiction to prostitution and the adult industry. We used to talk and pray for long stretches of time. It was something very heavy on my heart, as I was very concerned about his emotional and physical health. We eventually lost touch, but his biggest fear was that no Christian woman would ever want him because of the things he had been involved in. Some of the things he talked about were very tough to hear, but he told me it meant a lot that a woman would even listen to what he had to say. The most important thing I learned through this was how much you can help someone just by listening and not judging or correcting.

I pray to God a lot about this--that I'll be strong enough someday to be a support to a man who has been through a lot in life, and that God will give me the wisdom of how to reassure and the strength to keep encouraging even when I want to choke someone for repeatedly making the same life-threatening choices.

It hurts to come here and then read about how all women do is suck the life out of men. I really don't think that the majority of us here are like that at all. I guess, as Christians, this is our comfort for both men and women--that God knows who we are and who we are trying to be, even if no one else does.

The other thing that makes me sad is that I think if we all listened to each other just a little more, we'd find some great friendships and even relationships or marriages right in front of our eyes -- we all say we want Godly spouses, and if we'd just pause a minute, we could find God's blessing right here.

There have been several times when I've read people's posts and thought, "Wow, I bet X and Y would make a great couple, or at least, good friends..." but I don't say anything because I figure it's not my business.

In the four years I've been here on CC, I can remember two distinct, separate times I had a crush on someone here. I understand that because of distance, varying factors, and God's will, many such connections won't work out. I feel very fortunate that in one case, I was able to eventually confess how I felt, and while sparks didn't fly, it turned into a friendship that has lasted to this day. In the other case, the person is no longer on CC and we never kept in touch, nor did I ever say anything, so for the good or bad, he'll never know how I felt.

Maybe I'm an impossible optimist in this area (I'm a raging pessimist in most other areas of life)... but I can't help but think of all the friendships and blessings we're all missing out on by trying to constantly "fix" each other or "suggest" how we all are "supposed" to be.
 

Fenner

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I'm old and haven't dated anyone but Dave (my spouse) for the last 17 years. But when I read those threads I get the feeling the writer has had bad experiences outside of here and they are venting. I'm not saying I agree with all of it,


What I've come across here are women who are strong Godly women. I don't know anyone really well, but there are many that make better life choices then me at their age. I admire the ladies of CC. In a nutshell you gals are great.

:cool:
 

maxwel

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Apr 18, 2013
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Just for the record, no female at CC has sucked the life out of me like a vampire.

Of course I haven't been here very long...

: )
 
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Relena7

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I think everyone needs to befriend (but not necessarily date) at least one soul-draining vampire, so that they can know first hand up-close-and-personal what kind of people to avoid in the future.


A friend worth keeping will leave you feeling better about yourself after you're done hanging out, not worse.
 

Nautilus

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yeah no women from cc are close enough to me to provide any danger to my health. So honestly ill say you probably arent anywhere near as bad as some of those threads.
 
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Jullianna

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Hey Everyone,

I admit to doing a lot of thinking today. All of us get frustrated, and for the times we women get frustrated with you gentlemen, I wholeheartedly apologize.

But the thing I've noticed lately is the intense stream of threads that basically tell us women everything that's wrong with us: how we need to submit, how we're too materialistic, and how we expect to be put on pedestals and worshiped like queens. I understand that men get frustrated, I really do, and I really am sorry for that.

But I have to wonder to myself: Guys, from reading the posts here at CC, would you say that most of the women here are what's being described? Cold, heartless, blood-sucking monsters who think only of themselves and their own material gain? Insubordinate, rebellious hellions who would never agree to submit themselves to a God-given husband? Would you say this is true of even half the women who post here on CC?

I understand that men need to vent. I've had great Christian guy friends who have struggled with a lot things regarding women--one used to call me every week and vent for hours. "Kim," he would say, "There are only two kinds of women: those who want money, and those with serious emotional problems." He had been through a lot, and I admit, sometimes it was hard to listen to. But the difference was, he never treated me personally as if I were one of the women who had hurt him. He always went out of his way to tell me thank you for being his friend and for offering a different point of view, and that's what kept me going. (He even later met a great Christian girl and is now happily married... and I'm grateful that he told me thank you for being there for him while he was struggling through a lot of negative emotions.) But I admit... it drained the life out of me at the same time. But I asked God what to do, and felt that my role was to try to help... and to serve... by listening.

Now, here's where I have to ask God's help in taking the plank out of my own eye. Many times in the threads, I have complained about my own personal experience of running into Christian men who are addicted to pornography. But, I've tried to never write a thread that said, "Why Do Men Say They're Christians When They're Addicted to Porn?" The reason I try to avoid this is because 1. I know not every guy is like that and, 2. The men here who are brave enough to talk about it are also very open about seeking God's help to change.

Guys, I do know you're frustrated with the way some women act, and we women are just as fed up as you.

But I ask again, and very honestly--do the women here, from what you've read in the posts we take so much time and heart to write, really sound like the same types of women who have hurt you so much? If not, please, please, consider that we are all trying our best and please don't lump us all into the same category. Yes, we are women, but in most cases, we are not the women who wronged you. Please listen to what we have to say and, maybe when you do need to vent (as we all do from time to time), perhaps it could be worded in such a way as, "Ladies, I'm really, really fed up with being treated like a wallet from time to time. I've read some posts from many CC women who have different hearts and I'd like to ask your advice as to how to avoid these types of women?"

I am not trying to sound self-righteous, nor am I trying to say women are perfect. But what I AM saying is that when I read posts from people here, I see a very honest, very sincere, very heartfelt group of people who care about others and are devoting their lives to serve God and allow Him to help them become better people.

All I ask is that could we please recognize that many of the people here, both men and women, are trying their best and allowing God to work with them? May I please respectfully ask that we recognize them as individuals and not one of the masses who mistreated you or broke your heart?

Again, I apologize to the gentlemen here if you've ever felt I have "lumped you altogether" in any of my posts. We have AWESOME guys here and the ladies of CC appreciate each one of you.

We just hope that maybe, just maybe, you might also feel the same way about some of us.
I'll have to get back with you on this when I'm finished cataloging all of my purses/shoes and filing my fangs. :D