Just because I think the people that were living in Israel at the time of the Balfour declaration were basically given the shaft and have had the land they were living in,were basically forced off because of a piece of paper,and which was taken from them,(stolen from them without any say by them) I thought stealing was wrong.
But as I pointed out, world history did not begin in the 20th century.
CHRISTIAN ZIONISM
Since when is a Christian supposed to rail against the right to self-defense of the Israelis (or any nation) from imperialistic aggression, and the freedom, liberty and right to self-determination of Israeli Jews, Christians, non-Muslim Arabs
and Muslims who are protected by the Israeli Jewish State. To favor the imperialistic Islamic conquest of Israel and subjugation of those Jews, Christians and non-Muslim Arabs to just another Sharia law ruled, multiple wife and concubine beating, little girl circumcising (FGM), little girl doing, slave making and trading, Islamic "apostate" killing, Christian and Jew persecuting and murdering, church and synagogue burning, Islamic slave state. Just as people of your ilk bear responsibility for subjugating Gaza Christians to now. Your picking on the poll was nothing more than an expression of your blindness, caused in part by the Satan inspired terms "Palestine" and "Palestinian" that masks the true nature of what is going on in Israel.
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/61358-israel-palestine.html
Wow,you truly show your heart there Pete. Cut and paste much? The same old same old,half truths,lies,innuendos and false accusations. I know who father is and you're just like him,an accuser just like he was from the beginning,a liar,and a destroyer.[/QUOTE]
But to make that case you would have to demonstrate that the name "Palestine" that was coined by a satanically led 2nd century Roman ruler is correct, and the name that scripture assigns to "Israel" in the New Testament is incorrect.
Mat 2:20 Saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and go into the
land of Israel: for they are dead which sought the young child's life. 21 And he arose, and took the young child and his mother, and came into the
land of Israel.
So who does that actually make the liar? The accused or the accuser?
1Jo 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not
God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
You would also have to make the case that my characterization of that allowed within an Islamic state is incorrect, which you cannot either.
Since when is a Christian suppose to turn away from innocents being bombed and killed?
You are apparently unaware - or choose to ignore - that collateral damage, and casualties resulting from mistakes, are an inherent part of war. So you continue to rail against the Israelis right to self-defense and protection of the freedom, liberty and right to self-determination of Israeli Jews, Christians, non-Muslim Arabs and Muslims.
No surprise then that you go on to suggest there is an equivalence between an accident of war, and the intentional Qussam rocket attacks against Israel, intentional acts such as the murder of that Christian bookstore keeper, and the intentional subjugation and dhimmitude of Gaza Christians to Islam, that anti-Zionists are responsible for.
And when we were ever told to hate our enemy? Were we not told to turn the other cheek? Were we not told that we are to preach the gospel of Christ to them? Were we not told that we would be hated,persicuted,put on trial and maybe put to death? Were did Jesus ever say that this world would love us? Same old,same old,nothing new under the sun,that will continue till He comes back. What is so hard for you to understand you have the wrong focus. We are to preach to them,teach them and love them.
I have several websites, youtube channels and a forum geared to help point the way to the foot of the cross out to Muhammad's sorely deluded followers.
What do you do for them besides help advance the Islamic conquest of Israel, and subjugation of Israeli Jews, Christians and non-Muslim Arabs, by opposing Israels democracy and propagandizing Christian forums?
Were did Jesus tell us to go kill them and exterminate them? Don't get me wrong we do have the right to protect ourselves also,but where did Jesus ever give us the go ahead and go into another country that did not attack us? And I am not saying Israel does not have a right to defend themselves,but they no more have the right to go and kill innocents any more then anyone else and they also have no right to STEAL the land then anyone else. Can you not get that through your head it was taken away from the people that were living there,by a little piece of paper. Nothing more nothing less. How would you like it if someone from China came along with a piece of paper and now said your land belongs to them? And again the problem that I have with both sides is they are using innocents as pawns. Aren't you doing the very thing you said I was doing that all the people in the Gaza are all somehow Muslim or are only some Muslim? And are all attacking Israel or is it some? And once again it is both sides. Or is Israel somehow innocent of killing innocents also? I have no problem with them going after the ones doing those things but not those who had nothing to do with it.
Somehow you don't see a problem with this
Israel sees no criminal liability in Gaza family bombing
Accidents happen during war. It is a tragedy.
However Islamic conquest is intentional and not accidental.
The fact of the matter remains, that if the Muslims put down their weapons there would be no more violence, but if the Israelis put down their weapons there would be no more Israel.
[video=youtube;l4d9HPw4a_k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4d9HPw4a_k[/video]
LA Times April 14,2013
By Edmund SandersApril 14, 2013, 11:04 a.m.
JERUSALEM - An Israeli investigation into the worst civilian tragedy of last November’s Gaza Strip offensive – an attack that killed 10 members of a single family and two neighbors – concluded that soldiers bombed the home by mistake and should not face criminal charges or other disciplinary action.
The Nov. 18 Israeli air strike was one of the most horrific and widely publicized incidents of the eight-day clash with the Gaza-based militant group Hamas. The military campaign, dubbed Operation Pillar of Defense, came after Gaza militants refused to stop firing rockets into southern Israel and Israel Defense Forces retaliated by assassinating the top Hamas military commander.
At least 168 Palestinians were killed during the conflict, including 101 civilians, a U.N. report found. Six Israelis, including four civilians, were killed by Palestinian rocket fire.
Israel sees no criminal liability in Gaza family bombing - latimes.com
All because I believe that poll is skewed. Yeesh.
So you finally even admit that you
DO believe the poll to be
SKEWED and not just an insufficiently sized group as you expressed earlier. What this suggests is that you
DO think it is more reasonable to believe that secular Arabs
would prefer to live in - just another Sharia law ruled, multiple wife and concubine beating, little girl circumcising (FGM), little girl doing, slave making and trading, Islamic "apostate" killing, Christian and Jew persecuting and murdering, church and synagogue burning, Islamic slave state - rather than the democracy of the Jewish State.