PeterT,
the PreTrib. Rapture is not my assumption. It is Bible Doctrine. And the way you can see how the King James Bible clearly teaches a Pre-Trib. Rapture is by rightly dividing the word of truth and by comparing Scripture with Scripture. .
But you haven’t shown any scripture so how is it clear?
I agree with those verses that you quoted before but there is nothing about before the tribulation in them verses. But they do speak of the dead raising in the clouds at the last trumpet.
1 Corinthians 15: 51Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
1 Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
My view on the post tribulation (in short)
Matt24 29 Immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days.
30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the CLOUDS of heaven with power and great glory.
31And he shall send his ANGELS with a great sound of a TRUMPET, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Matthew 13:39 The harvest, is the end of the world. And the reapers are the Angels.
“CLOUDS” “TRUMPET” angels shall gather together his elect, Immediately after the tribulation.
Rv11 DEAD rise in the CLOUDS at the LAST TRUMPET at the end of the tribulation and the end of the 1260 days.
You can pull this to bits if you like interpret it all way if you want.
But at least I have shown an EVENT of the DEAD and living gathered in the CLOUDS AFTER the tribulation at the sound of a trumpet, the LAST TRUMPET.
You can pull this to bits if you like, interpret it all way if you want, but at least I have scripture that you can pull to bits, you don’t have any that I can pull to bits.
No event, on scripture, no nothing before the tribulation.
I told you it was a delusion