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So can I draw this out? ONLY because I want to make certain I understand it clearly ..
God - all creator , over son and HS
Jesus - manifestation of God in the flesh/ the word
HS- the constant communication between father and son
Jesus being "in us" , is in constant communication (which is the Holy Spirit flowing between them)
all centered as one operating as one .. Is that right ?
God - all creator , over son and HS
Jesus - manifestation of God in the flesh/ the word
HS- the constant communication between father and son
Jesus being "in us" , is in constant communication (which is the Holy Spirit flowing between them)
all centered as one operating as one .. Is that right ?
All "threeness" is not Trinity. Man is Tripartite, not Triune. Hint: We're in His image.
Now you're just analogizing after you were attempting to deduce and infer. In Trinity doctrine, "person" is hypostasis in the Greek. And Trinity is not merely three "persons" (hypostases), but also in/as one "being" (ousia).
So... either provide the scriptural foundation for three hypostases/one ousia in Greek, OR... provide the English distinction between "person/s" and "being". That's where it starts.
Now you're just analogizing after you were attempting to deduce and infer. In Trinity doctrine, "person" is hypostasis in the Greek. And Trinity is not merely three "persons" (hypostases), but also in/as one "being" (ousia).
So... either provide the scriptural foundation for three hypostases/one ousia in Greek, OR... provide the English distinction between "person/s" and "being". That's where it starts.
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I can't really. Can you? I meant I would think God is all knowing. In Genesis Gods words and breath spoke the creation into existence. When man was formed, if I'm not mistaken, he was breathed into his nostrils the breath of life. I'm not super smart and versed here. so I'll just say that on faith. They really are one in the same and God had it all figured out in the beginning. I think that the breath of God is like the Holy Spirit as I know of the Spirit. It's a wind in my chest giving me either extreme joy or extreme conviction or a just ride it out. Someone school me.
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The Word Jinx 
That which proceedeth from Gods mouth, is his word,
As in..."in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God and the Word was with God"
How could there be a beginning if God is omnipresent
The beginning of creation
God created everything out of nothing except but by his WORD
He SPOKE all things into existence, as opposed to the wave of his hand etc.
Gods WORD (Christ) came in the flesh which is why it is so powerful to claim
(simply Gods word which proceedeth from his mouth, born of him, his son, his LIVING WORD, came to life)
Christ is Gods word came to life
For example
We have our body (likeness of God)
We have our spirit (that which we think feel our inner being etc)
Then... we convey that by our ...words, that which we speak
Those 3 things of God, Yes are one, similar to that which we speak ourselves are one with what we think.
His being, his spirit, and his WORD, Yes are one
God didn't seperate himself from himself, he brought his words to physical life in the flesh
When God speaks something it happens. His WORDS have authority
Christ has been given all authority in heaven and earth, because what God says goes.
This is why not many can fathom the concept, God can make people out of dust
He went one step greater, he made his very WORDS come to visible life
And when Christ was here he was giving all honor and credit to the FATHER because it is not the mans words but the words of the father which came forth from the father, hence his son.
If we go back over every scripture which speaks of Gods word, how his WORD was here in the beginning, and was God and was from God we can understand that the 3 things of him
The body, his spirit and that which God speaks make up his complete being.
Kinda like those 3 things of us are made in his image as well.
His word saves us
His promise of grace he SPOKE of
Everything he said is HIS WORD...which is Christ, the Word of God which is alive and powerful.
That which proceedeth from Gods mouth, is his word,
As in..."in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God and the Word was with God"
How could there be a beginning if God is omnipresent
The beginning of creation
God created everything out of nothing except but by his WORD
He SPOKE all things into existence, as opposed to the wave of his hand etc.
Gods WORD (Christ) came in the flesh which is why it is so powerful to claim
(simply Gods word which proceedeth from his mouth, born of him, his son, his LIVING WORD, came to life)
Christ is Gods word came to life
For example
We have our body (likeness of God)
We have our spirit (that which we think feel our inner being etc)
Then... we convey that by our ...words, that which we speak
Those 3 things of God, Yes are one, similar to that which we speak ourselves are one with what we think.
His being, his spirit, and his WORD, Yes are one
God didn't seperate himself from himself, he brought his words to physical life in the flesh
When God speaks something it happens. His WORDS have authority
Christ has been given all authority in heaven and earth, because what God says goes.
This is why not many can fathom the concept, God can make people out of dust
He went one step greater, he made his very WORDS come to visible life
And when Christ was here he was giving all honor and credit to the FATHER because it is not the mans words but the words of the father which came forth from the father, hence his son.
If we go back over every scripture which speaks of Gods word, how his WORD was here in the beginning, and was God and was from God we can understand that the 3 things of him
The body, his spirit and that which God speaks make up his complete being.
Kinda like those 3 things of us are made in his image as well.
His word saves us
His promise of grace he SPOKE of
Everything he said is HIS WORD...which is Christ, the Word of God which is alive and powerful.