love/hate

[Markum1972]

Have you ever noticed how quickly "love" can turn to hate for some people? I think you probably see it on FB more than anywhere else. Oooooooooh the drama. One day someone is posting lovey dovey pics/posters of their man/lady, and practically overnight they are posting nastigrams and making snotty remarks about them.

I could understand if the person shot your dog, cheated on you, abused a family member or some other horrible thing, but seriously....you hate someone overnight and never want to speak with them again just because things didn't work out?

If a person is going to behave like this over a breakup, are they really mature enough for a relationship in the first place?

Being mean and nasty is definitely immature and as far as I am concerned it shows the selfishness that the person probably displayed in the relationship. I am usually a bit embarrassed for someone when they behave that way because I know that they are clueless as to how transparent they have made them self.

 

[Shouryu]

If a person is going to behave like this over a breakup, are they really mature enough for a relationship in the first place?

If something turned that sour that quickly over something silly...I would hesitate to even label it a relationship. It might have been dating, it might have been a fling, they might have even labeled themselves girlfriend and boyfriend...but it really wasn't a relationship. Especially if it was worldly and more grounded physically than emotionally. In which case, they were just long-term bed-buddies.

A real relationship is a partnership, and not in a sexual sense (although that does eventually become a part of it). You complete part of me, and I complete part of you, and together, Christ completes us. We strengthen each other's weaknesses, and work for the benefit of the other, not simply ourselves. That's a relationship. Anything else is just playing house.

 

[DuchessAimee]

The opposite of love isn't hate, it's apathy. Hate is a combination of hurt feelings, anger, and the want for revenge.

 

[iraasuup]

The opposite of love isn't hate, it's apathy. Hate is a combination of hurt feelings, anger, and the want for revenge.

Apathy...our nation's leading cause of whatever.

 

[zeroturbulence]

The opposite of love isn't hate, it's apathy. Hate is a combination of hurt feelings, anger, and the want for revenge.

So pain, anger and the want for revenge is somehow not the opposite of love??

 

[Jullianna]

The opposite of love isn't hate, it's apathy. Hate is a combination of hurt feelings, anger, and the want for revenge.

I don't think posting nasty stuff about an ex is a sign a apathy

 

[Oncefallen]

The opposite of love isn't hate, it's apathy. Hate is a combination of hurt feelings, anger, and the want for revenge.

So pain, anger and the want for revenge is somehow not the opposite of love??

A counselor that I used to see years ago used to love to say that hate is closer to love than apathy. Someone who is carrying resentment, hatred, a grudge towards someone is still emotionally engaged. Apathy shows complete emotional disengagement.

 

[secularhermit]

" A real relationship is a partnership, and not in a sexual sense (although that does eventually become a part of it). You complete part of me, and I complete part of you, and together, Christ completes us. We strengthen each other's weaknesses, and work for the benefit of the other, not simply ourselves. That's a relationship. Anything else is just playing house. "

Beautiful! If any finds someone who thinks this way he/she has better using his/her padlock to wedding.

 

[hattiebod]

I once read, hate is seen as the same as murder to God. When we read Thou shalt not Murder....most of us think, whew, I have not broken that one! But God says holding hatred in ones heart, is just the same. Maybe someone can help, and has the scriptures to support this? God Bless, <><

 

[Jullianna]

1 John 3
[SUP]11 [/SUP]For this is the message you heard from the beginning: We should love one another. [SUP]12 [/SUP]Do not be like Cain, who belonged to the evil one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his own actions were evil and his brother’s were righteous. [SUP]13 [/SUP]Do not be surprised, my brothers and sisters, if the world hates you. [SUP]14 [/SUP]We know that we have passed from death to life, because we love each other. Anyone who does not love remains in death. [SUP]15 [/SUP]Anyone who hates a brother or sister is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life residing in him.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers and sisters. [SUP]17 [/SUP]If anyone has material possessions and sees a brother or sister in need but has no pity on them, how can the love of God be in that person? [SUP]18 [/SUP]Dear children, let us not love with words or speech but with actions and in truth.[SUP]19 [/SUP]This is how we know that we belong to the truth and how we set our hearts at rest in his presence: [SUP]20 [/SUP]If our hearts condemn us, we know that God is greater than our hearts, and he knows everything. [SUP]21 [/SUP]Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God [SUP]22 [/SUP]and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him. [SUP]23 [/SUP]And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. [SUP]24 [/SUP]The one who keeps God’s commands lives in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us.

[h=3]Matthew 5:21-26[/h]“You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not murder; and whoever murders will be liable to judgment.’ But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire. So if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you, leave your gift there before the altar and go. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift. Come to terms quickly with your accuser while you are going with him to court, lest your accuser hand you over to the judge, and the judge to the guard, and you be put in prison.

 

[zeroturbulence]

A counselor that I used to see years ago used to love to say that hate is closer to love than apathy. Someone who is carrying resentment, hatred, a grudge towards someone is still emotionally engaged. Apathy shows complete emotional disengagement.

I still am not sold on that concept. Because if its true then should those who were brutally victimized by the KKK be thankful that they were only hated and not felt apathy towards by the KKK, or should the jews should be thankful that the nazis didn't feel apathy towards them and only hated them instead? That of course doesn't make a lick of sense which is why I am not buying the concept that apathy is somehow further from love than hate. Someone please show me an example where hatred is not worse than apathy.

Ok ok, I will make my own thread - later.

 

[hattiebod]

I still am not sold on that concept. Because if its true then for example, those who were brutally victimized by the KKK should be thankful that they were only hated and not felt apathy towards by the KKK, or the jews should be thankful that the nazis didn't feel apathy towards them and only hated them instead. That of course doesn't make a lick of sense which is why I am not buying the concept that apathy is somehow further from love than hate. Someone please show me an example where hatred is not worse than apathy.

Not sure if I am right at all...but surely murder is much worse than apathy? Apathy is disinterest...you can ignore a person when one feels apathetic toward them. Murder through is direct and dare I say it....rather final. You really have to hate to murder....see the person as worthless, unworthy of living. Just a thought <><

 

[zeroturbulence]

Not sure if I am right at all...but surely murder is much worse than apathy? Apathy is disinterest...you can ignore a person when one feels apathetic toward them. Murder through is direct and dare I say it....rather final. You really have to hate to murder....see the person as worthless, unworthy of living. Just a thought <><

That's what I'm saying. Hate should be the opposite of love, not apathy. They're trying to say that apathy is somehow worse than hate.

 

[hattiebod]

Well...for what it's worth Zero, I agree with you. . Apathy means to me, basically boredom, suggests inaction to me. Hate however usually cause people to act...and usually not very nicely! <><

 

[Powemm]

Apathy is mercy as far as I'm concerned ., You can stand on the sidewalk and say to a truck driver , please dont run over us .. however a driver with murder in their heart doesn't care how they drive, who they Hit, or who gets killed... sorry but I'll walk down another street if such is the case .. there is apathy., then there's a "dust your feet and move" ... Especially once spoken and the heart of the other isn't changed .. There is quite a difference ..

 

[Powemm]

Love is always best ... Many times its best to leave an unchanged heart with God who is the only one that can change it.. rather than trying to change it and become
Like it yourself ..

 

[Powemm]

I was in a marriage .. it was like a game of checkers ... he kept his crown , He wanted
Mine also.... so I gave it up.. he got crowned twice .. And I'm okay with that .. Till this day he still walks with three , another marriage and divorced.. He may have many before it's all over .. he wanted one thing I wanted another ... It all works out for gods greater good in the end .. This Im sure of,,

 

[Jullianna]

ap·a·thy

/ˈapəTHē/

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[TD]Lack of interest, enthusiasm, or concern.
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[TD]indifference - unconcern - torpor - listlessness

Edmund Burke is most famously noted for the popular saying, "All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing."

I didn't take it that Oncefallen was trying to say that apathy was WORSE than hate, only that hate was closer to love than hate by definition in that love and hate are both emotions and apathy is the lack thereof regarding a thing.

How is the discussion of apathy related to the OP?

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[zeroturbulence]

Sorry, I didn't mean to derail your thread. I just asked why hate is not the opposite of love, in response to DuchessAimee's post.

I know the thing about the absence of feeling but if that's why it's the opposite of love then it has to be the opposite of hate too.

Anyway, I digress...

Sorry (see my avatar).

 

[Jullianna]

I LOVE your avatar.
I do not hate your avatar.
I am not apathetic re: your avatar.