The Earth is flat? It's a circular flat disk surrounded by a wall of ice?

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1still_waters

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While we're at it.

The Earth is flat?
It's a circular disk surrounded by a wall of ice?
Your thoughts?

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What evidence do you have?

The evidence for a flat earth is derived from many different facets of science and philosophy. The simplest is by relying on ones own senses to discern the true nature of the world around us. The world looks flat, the bottoms of clouds are flat, the movement of the sun; these are all examples of your senses telling you that we do not live on a spherical heliocentric world. This is using what's called an empiricistapproach, or an approach that relies on information from your senses. Alternatively, when using Descartes' method of Cartesian doubt to skeptically view the world around us, one quickly finds that the notion of a spherical world is the theory which has the burden of proof and not flat earth theory.
Perhaps the best example of flat earth proof is the Bedford Level Experiment. In short, this was an experiment preformed many times on a six-mile stretch of water that proved the surface of the water to be flat. It did not conform to the curvature of the earth that round earth proponents teach.
Many other experiments demonstrating the lack of curvature in the earth may be found in Earth Not a Globe, by Samuel Rowbotham.



Frequently Asked Questions - The Flat Earth Wiki


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Are the illuminati, Bilderbergs, UN, and three city state, and corporate Zionists behind the round Earth theory? If so, why? How does Homeland Security and FEMA fit in?
 
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Re: The Earth is flat. It's a circular flat disk surrounded by a wall of ice.

[h=3]There are many pictures on the internet and in other media depicting the earth as being round. Why do these not disprove flat earth theory?[/h]In general, we at the Flat Earth Society do not lend much credibility to photographic evidence. It is too easily manipulated and altered. Many of the videos posted here to "prove a round earth" by showing curvature will show no curvature or even convex curvature at parts. The sources are so inaccurate it's difficult to build an argument on them in either case. Furthermore, barrel distortion and other quirks of modern cameras will cause a picture to distort with little or no apparent altercation; especially without references within the picture. Photographs are also prone to distortion when taken through the bent glass of a pressurized cabin as well as atmospheric conditions on the outside. With this litany of problems, it's easy to see why photographic evidence is not to be trusted.
It's also worth noting that if a person were to look down at the earth from high above, they would expect to see a circular shape where the sun's spotlight was shining. This explains why high altitude photographs are generally curved to produce the illusion of a round horizon.

---> Frequently Asked Questions - The Flat Earth Wiki
 
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Re: The Earth is flat. It's a circular flat disk surrounded by a wall of ice.

I think FEMA plays into the round Earth theory.
They don't want us to know that we can corner them, and shove them over Earth's edge when push comes to shove.
 
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Re: The Earth is flat. It's a circular flat disk surrounded by a wall of ice.

[h=3]How do you explain day and night cycles?[/h]Day and night cycles are easily explained on a flat earth. The sun moves in circles around the North Pole. When it is over your head, it's day. When it's not, it's night. The sun acts like a spotlight and shines downward as it moves. The picture below illustrates how the sun moves and also how seasons work on a flat earth.

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Re: The Earth is flat. It's a circular flat disk surrounded by a wall of ice.

[h=1]The Conspiracy[/h]
The Conspiracy is the blanket term most commonly used by proponents of Zeteticism to refer to the active faking of space travel. It is most associated with the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA), its constituents and fellow so-called "space agencies" as well as those who are informed by them (including government).
Though unknown exactly where or when the concept originated, earliest references have been attributed to the Flat Earth Society under the leadership of Samuel Shenton.

The Conspiracy - The Flat Earth Wiki
 
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djness

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Re: The Earth is flat. It's a circular flat disk surrounded by a wall of ice.

You poor uninformed deluded man.
 
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Ariel82

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Re: The Earth is flat. It's a circular flat disk surrounded by a wall of ice.

Please tell me this is a spoof.......

 
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1still_waters

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Re: The Earth is flat. It's a circular flat disk surrounded by a wall of ice.

[h=1]The Earth is an Egg[/h]
In the below ISS shot the curvature of the earth is not an arc of a circle.
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The Earth is an Egg - The Flat Earth Wiki
 
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Re: The Earth is flat. It's a circular flat disk surrounded by a wall of ice.

Ariel82 said:
Please tell me this is a spoof.......

Click to expand...
There appears to be some science behind it...
 
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Re: The Earth is flat. It's a circular flat disk surrounded by a wall of ice.

[h=1]Place of the Conspiracy in FET[/h]
Virtually no one begins with the conspiracy and develops a belief in the FET. A zetetic starts with the knowledge that the earth is flat, as they believe that all the evidence they are personally able to collect and verify confirms this. As a consequence they assume the evidence to the contrary, much of which they are unable to personally test/verify as being false. The existence of such a huge quantity of false information indicates the existence of the conspiracy.
Essentially the reasoning boils down to:

P1) If personally unverifiable evidence contradicts an obvious truth then the evidence is fabricated P2) The Flat Earth is an obvious truth P3) There is personally unverifiable evidence that contradicts the FET - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - C1) The unverifiable evidence that contradicts the FET is fabricated evidence
P4) If there is large amounts of fabricated evidence then there must be a conspiracy to fabricate it P5) There is a large amount of fabricated evidence (see C1) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - C2) There must be a conspiracy to fabricate it.http://theflatearthsociety.org/wiki/index.php?title=Place_of_the_Conspiracy_in_FET
 
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BBC NEWS | UK | Magazine | Do they really think the earth is flat?

On 24 December 1968, the crew of the Apollo 8 mission took a photo now known as Earthrise. To many, this beautiful blue sphere viewed from the moon's orbit is a perfect visual summary of why it is right to strive to go into space.
Not to everybody though. There are people who say they think this image is fake - part of a worldwide conspiracy by space agencies, governments and scientists.
Welcome to the world of the flat-earther.
Our attitude towards those who once upon a time believed in the flatness of the earth is apparent in a new Microsoft advert.
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[TD]One rendition of what a flat earth might look like

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Depicting an olden-days ship sailing on rough seas, presumably heading towards the "edge of the world", the advert is part of a $300m campaign aimed at rescuing the reputation of Windows Vista by comparing its critics to flat-earthers.
 
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Relena7

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Is this thread sarcastic? I'm confused.
 
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1still_waters

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What evidence do you have?

The evidence for a flat earth is derived from many different facets of science and philosophy. The simplest is by relying on ones own senses to discern the true nature of the world around us. The world looks flat, the bottoms of clouds are flat, the movement of the sun; these are all examples of your senses telling you that we do not live on a spherical heliocentric world. This is using what's called an empiricist approach, or an approach that relies on information from your senses. Alternatively, when using Descartes' method of Cartesian doubt to skeptically view the world around us, one quickly finds that the notion of a spherical world is the theory which has the burden of proof and not flat earth theory.
Perhaps the best example of flat earth proof is the Bedford Level Experiment. In short, this was an experiment preformed many times on a six-mile stretch of water that proved the surface of the water to be flat. It did not conform to the curvature of the earth that round earth proponents teach.
Many other experiments demonstrating the lack of curvature in the earth may be found in Earth Not a Globe, by Samuel Rowbotham.



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Love this thread! Thanks for the laugh, Still. :)
 
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Tintin said:
Love this thread! Thanks for the laugh, Still. :)
Click to expand...
Laugh?:O
But there appears to be some science buh hind itta all

[h=1]Bedford Level Experiment[/h]
The Bedford Level Experiment was a series of observations carried out along a six-mile length of the Old Bedford River on the Bedford Level, Norfolk, England, during the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, to prove that the Earth was flat. Most results have served to prove Flat Earth theory, and although a few have shown otherwise they have been soundly disproven my flat Earthers.
[h=2]Method[/h]At the point chosen for all the experiments the river was a slow-flowing drainage canal running in uninterrupted straight line for a six-mile stretch to the north-east of the village of Welney. The most famous of the observations, and the one that was taught in schools until photographs of the Earth from space became available, involved a set of three poles fixed at equal height above water level along this length. As the surface of the water was assumed to be level, the discovery that the middle pole, when viewed carefully through a theodolite, was almost three feet higher than the poles at each end was finally accepted as a new proof that the surface of the earth was indeed curved.
[h=2]History[/h]The first investigation was carried out by Samuel Birley Rowbotham (1816-1884), the president of the Flat Earth Society, in the summer of 1838. He waded into the river and used a telescope held eight inches above the water to watch a boat with a five-foot mast row slowly away from him. He reported that the vessel remained constantly in his view for the full six miles to Welney bridge, whereas, had the water surface been curved with the accepted circumference of a spherical earth, the top of the mast should have been some eleven feet below his line of sight.
Rowbotham repeated his experiments several times over the years but his discoveries received little attention until, in 1870, a supporter by the name of John Hampden offered a wager that he could show, by repeating Rowbotham's experiment, that the earth was flat. The noted naturalist and qualified surveyor Alfred Russel Wallace accepted the wager. Wallace won the bet. Hampden, however, published a pamphlet alleging that Wallace had cheated and sued for his money. Several protracted court cases ensued, with the result that Hampden was imprisoned for libel, but the court also determined that Wallace had, indeed, cheated.
In 1901 Henry Yule Oldham, a geography reader at King's College, Cambridge, conducted the definitive experiment described in Method, above.
On 11 May 1904 Lady Anne Blount hired a commercial photographer to use a telephoto lens camera to take a picture from Welney of a large white sheet she had placed, touching the surface of the river, at Rowbotham's original position six miles away. The photographer, Edgar Clifton from Dallmeyer's studio, mounted his camera two feet above the water at Welney and was surprised to be able to obtain a picture of the target, which should have been invisible to him given the low mounting point of the camera. Lady Blount published the pictures far and wide and, apart from some hypothesising concerning refraction, and dark hints of collusion between Blount and Clifton, these have not been explained.

Bedford Level Experiment - The Flat Earth Wiki
 
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[h=1]Experimental Evidence[/h]
The following sections contain experimental evidence in favor of a Flat Earth.
[h=2]Sinking Ship Effect[/h]It is proven that the ship does not sink behind a hill of water, but that it is actually perspective which hides it. This demonstrates that the earth is not a globe. There have been experiments where half-sunken ships have been restored by simply looking at them through telescopes, showing that they are not actually hiding behind "hills of water".
Main article: Sinking Ship Effect

[h=2]The English Mechanic[/h]From The English Mechanic, a scientific journal:

"The Flat Earth: another Bedford Canal experiment" (Bernard H.Watson, et al), ENGLISH MECHANIC, 80:160, 1904 Bedford Canal, England. A repeat of the 1870 experiment "A train of empty turf-boats had just entered the Canal from the river Ouse, and was about proceeding to Ramsey. I arranged with the captain to place the shallowest boat last in the train, and to take me on to Welney Bridge, a distance of six miles. A good telescope was then fixed on the lowest part of the stern of the last boat. The sluice gate of the Old Bedford Bridge was 5ft. 8in. high, the turf-boat moored there was 2ft. 6in. high, and the notice board was 6ft. 6in. from the water. The sun was shining strongly upon them in the direction of the south-southwest; the air was exceedingly still and clear, and the surface of the water smooth as a molten mirror, so that everything was favourable for observation. At 1.15 p.m. the train started for Welney. As the boats gradually receded, the sluice gate, the turf-boat and the notice board continued to be visible to the naked eye for about four miles. When the sluice gate and the turf-boat (being of a dark colour) became somewhat indistinct, the notice board (which was white) was still plainly visible, and remained so to the end of six miles. But on looking through the telescope all the objects were distinctly visible throughout the whole distance. On reaching Welney Bridge I made very careful and repeated observations, and finding several men upon the banks of the canal, I called them to look through the telescope. They all saw distinctly the white notice board, the sluice gate, and the black turf-boat moored near them. Now, as the telescope was 18in. above the water, The line of sight would touch the horizon at one mile and a half away (if the surface were convex). The curvature of the remaining four miles and a half would be 13ft. 6in. Hence the turf-boat should have been 11ft., the top of the sluice gate 7ft. 10in., and the bottom of the notice board 7ft. below the horizon. My recent experiment affords undeniable proof of the Earth's unglobularity, because it rests not on transitory vision; but my proof remains printed on the negative of the photograph which Mr.Clifton took for me, and in my presence, on behalf of J.H.Dallmeyer, Ltd. A photograph can not 'imagine' nor lie!"http://theflatearthsociety.org/wiki/index.php?title=Experimental_Evidence
Experimental Evidence - The Flat Earth Wiki
 
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LOL so what's on the flip side?????? A giant wad of gum like in calculus?
 
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