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How rediculous of an answer. Does that mean we can toss everything Jesus said, before He was crucified? My My,, what a slippery slope you are on.
You certainly do delight in being ignorant

If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need [was there] that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron? For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law. Hebrews 7:11-12
 
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You certainly do delight in being ignorant
If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need [was there] that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron? For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law. Hebrews 7:11-12

lol,,, No change to Gods 10 Commandments,, only the Law of Moses.
 
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lol,,, No change to Gods 10 Commandments,, only the Law of Moses.
Same difference. Why do you keep denying this.

Paul said he would not know sin unless it were for the law (of moses) The Law killed him.. why??
 
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And this is a point that we do not agree on, I beleive we are to keep the Feast Days (Holy Days if you prefer)...

Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

They are still a shadow of things to come here twenty some years after the work of
Christ on the stake. But though we disagree on this, we still agree on keeing the Commandments and the Sabbath.
So you have a problem saying the word Cross? Maybe the demons inside you hate that word?

Of course it does not matter if Christ died on a stake, tree or Cross. The important thing is that He did and dealt a crushing defeat to satan and his minions. To me, it underscores your hatred for truth.

"The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails (plural), and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe." John 20:20
How many nails are required for an execution on a stake? Answer: One.
How many nails are required for an execution on the cross? Answer: Two

And above His head they put up the charge against Him which read, "THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS."
How would you place a sign on a stake? Answer: Above his hands.
How would you place a sign on a cross? Answer: Above his head.

It is just common sense that Jesus died on a pole with a cross member and not a stake. Then again common sense is non-existent in the theology of the cults.
 
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oh lol... it's all the law of Moses... given by GOD through Moses... the 10 commandments and everything else.
Here is the differences between the Law of Moses & The Law of God:

MOSES'S LAW is called "the law of Moses" Luke 2:22 : GOD'S LAW is called "the law of the Lord" Isaiah 5:24

ML is called "the law of ordinances" Ephesians 2:15 : GL is called "the royal law" James 2:8

ML is written by Moses in a book. 2 chronicles 35:12 : GL is written by God on stone. Exodus 31:18; 32:16

Ml is placed in the side of the ark. Duet 31:26 : Gl is placed inside the ark. Exodus 40:20

Ml ended at the cross. Eph 2:15 : GL will stand forever. Luke 16:17

ML was added because of sin. Gal 3:19 : GL points out sin. Romans 7:7 & 3:20

Ml Contrary to us, against us. Col 2:14 : Gl Not grievous. 1 john 5:3

Ml Judges no one. Col 2:14-16 : GL Judges all people. James 2:10-12

ML carnal Hebrews 7;16 : GL Spiritual. Romans 7:14

ML made nothing perfect. Hebrews 7:19 : GL is Perfect. Psalm 19:7

So,, all should be able to see that the Law of Moses is indeed different from the Law of God!
 
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A couple of questions for all!!! (my answers)

Are we to keep the Law of God? Yes

If so, through obedience to the Law or through the obedience to the Spirit? Knowing that we cannot please God through the flesh, then I must die to the flesh so that I can become alive to my spirit and hearken to His Spirit (that which is flesh is fleshly and that which is from the spirit is spiritual -- God is Spirit and must be worshipped by the spirit). This being so, then my obedience is to Him and not the Law as my guidance. Truly, God has entered His child's heart and sups with him.

If by the flesh I try to please Him, then death awaits me as it does for all those who place themselves under the Law for their righteousness. But if by my spirit, I am lead by Him, then life awaits me as it does for all those who place themselves under the Blood of Christ for not only their righteousness, but also their justification.
 
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Here is the differences between the Law of Moses & The Law of God:
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So,, all should be able to see that the Law of Moses is indeed different from the Law of God!
Insignificant, written by two different people centuries apart

  • MOSES'S LAW is called "the law of Moses" Luke 2:22 : GOD'S LAW is called "the law of the Lord" Isaiah 5:24

Insignificant, written by two different people who merely described something differently

  • ML is called "the law of ordinances" Ephesians 2:15 : GL is called "the royal law" James 2:8

Meaningless; The 10 commandments were written in the scrolls as well

  • ML is written by Moses in a book. 2 chronicles 35:12 : GL is written by God on stone. Exodus 31:18; 32:16

And this is supposed to mean what? No man could look at the tablets of stone with the 10 commandments; the scroll which contained the 10 commandments was for man's instruction

  • Ml is placed in the side of the ark. Duet 31:26 : Gl is placed inside the ark. Exodus 40:20

GOD's righteousness stands forever; the 10 commandments lordship over man ended at the cross for those who believe and are made the righteousness of Christ. The 10 commandments can say nothing against a righteous man

  • Ml ended at the cross. Eph 2:15 : GL will stand forever. Luke 16:17

This is nonsensical because it says the same thing: The 10 commandments were added because of man's sin in order to point out his sin

  • ML was added because of sin. Gal 3:19 : GL points out sin. Romans 7:7 & 3:20

This is really a stretch; the 10 commandments are what slays us. The commandments referred to in 1 John are those spoken by Jesus, not Moses

  • Ml Contrary to us, against us. Col 2:14 : Gl Not grievous. 1 john 5:3

This is nonsensical; Colossians 2:14 says handwritten law. Both the tablets of stone and the scrolls were handwritten
  • Ml Judges no one. Col 2:14-16 : GL Judges all people. James 2:10-12

There is no such thing as a carnal law of GOD; it is all spiritual. Hebrews 7:16 is making a distinction between a law of GOD that gave direction regarding carnal things (earthly priesthood) and between spiritual things in the from of an unending life (heavenly priesthood)

  • ML carnal Hebrews 7;16 : GL Spiritual. Romans 7:14

Meaningless; the 10 commandments didn't make anything perfect; Christ was made perfect through sufferings

  • ML made nothing perfect. Hebrews 7:19 : GL is Perfect. Psalm 19:7
 
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Insignificant, written by two different people centuries apart

  • MOSES'S LAW is called "the law of Moses" Luke 2:22 : GOD'S LAW is called "the law of the Lord" Isaiah 5:24

Insignificant, written by two different people who merely described something differently

  • ML is called "the law of ordinances" Ephesians 2:15 : GL is called "the royal law" James 2:8

Meaningless; The 10 commandments were written in the scrolls as well

  • ML is written by Moses in a book. 2 chronicles 35:12 : GL is written by God on stone. Exodus 31:18; 32:16

And this is supposed to mean what? No man could look at the tablets of stone with the 10 commandments; the scroll which contained the 10 commandments was for man's instruction

  • Ml is placed in the side of the ark. Duet 31:26 : Gl is placed inside the ark. Exodus 40:20

GOD's righteousness stands forever; the 10 commandments lordship over man ended at the cross for those who believe and are made the righteousness of Christ. The 10 commandments can say nothing against a righteous man

  • Ml ended at the cross. Eph 2:15 : GL will stand forever. Luke 16:17

This is nonsensical because it says the same thing: The 10 commandments were added because of man's sin in order to point out his sin

  • ML was added because of sin. Gal 3:19 : GL points out sin. Romans 7:7 & 3:20

This is really a stretch; the 10 commandments are what slays us. The commandments referred to in 1 John are those spoken by Jesus, not Moses

  • Ml Contrary to us, against us. Col 2:14 : Gl Not grievous. 1 john 5:3

This is nonsensical; Colossians 2:14 says handwritten law. Both the tablets of stone and the scrolls were handwritten
  • Ml Judges no one. Col 2:14-16 : GL Judges all people. James 2:10-12

There is no such thing as a carnal law of GOD; it is all spiritual. Hebrews 7:16 is making a distinction between a law of GOD that gave direction regarding carnal things (earthly priesthood) and between spiritual things in the from of an unending life (heavenly priesthood)

  • ML carnal Hebrews 7;16 : GL Spiritual. Romans 7:14

Meaningless; the 10 commandments didn't make anything perfect; Christ was made perfect through sufferings

  • ML made nothing perfect. Hebrews 7:19 : GL is Perfect. Psalm 19:7
I say you can go ahead and toss yer bible in the trash. Cause You obviously don't need it.
 

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So you have a problem saying the word Cross? Maybe the demons inside you hate that word?

Of course it does not matter if Christ died on a stake, tree or Cross. The important thing is that He did and dealt a crushing defeat to satan and his minions. To me, it underscores your hatred for truth.



How many nails are required for an execution on a stake? Answer: One.
How many nails are required for an execution on the cross? Answer: Two



How would you place a sign on a stake? Answer: Above his hands.
How would you place a sign on a cross? Answer: Above his head.

It is just common sense that Jesus died on a pole with a cross member and not a stake. Then again common sense is non-existent in the theology of the cults.
When executed on a stake the hands were both pierced over the head. Just for fun, why don't you actually do a little research on this one? Look up cross and you will find in the New Testament, the word for cross is...

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σταυρός
stauros
stow-ros'
From the base of G2476; a stake or post (as set upright), that is, (specifically) a pole or cross (as an instrument of capital punishment); figuratively exposure to death, that is, self denial; by implication the atonement of Christ: - cross.

G4716
σταυρός
stauros
Thayer Definition:
1) an upright stake, especially a pointed one
2) a cross
2a) a well known instrument of most cruel and ignominious punishment, borrowed by the Greeks and Romans from the Phoenicians; to it were affixed among the Romans, down to the time of Constantine the Great, the guiltiest criminals, particularly the basest slaves, robbers, the authors and abetters of insurrections, and occasionally in the provinces, at the arbitrary pleasure of the governors, upright and peaceable men also, and even Roman citizens themselves
2b) the crucifixion which Christ underwent
Part of Speech: noun masculine
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: from the base of G2476
Citing in TDNT: 7:572, 1071

Dr. Bullinger says...

In the Greek N.T. two words are used for "the cross", on which the Lord was put to death.
1. The word stauros ; which denotes and upright pale or stake, to which the criminals were nailed for execution.
2. The word xulon , which generally denotes a piece of a dead log of wood or timber, for fuel or for any other purpose. It is not like dendron , which is used of a living, or green tree, as in Mat_21:8. Rev_7:1; Rev_7:3; Rev_8:7; Rev_9:4, &c.

As this latter word xulon is used for the former stauros , it shows us that the meaning of each is exactly the same. The verb stauros means to drive stakes (*1) . Our English word "cross" is the translation of the Latin crux ; but the Greek stauros no more means a crux than the word "stick" means a "crutch". Homer uses the word stauros of an ordinary pole or stake, or a single piece of timber (*2) . And this is the meaning and usage of the word throughout the Greek classics (*3) .

It never means two pieces of timber placed across one another at any angle, but always of one piece alone. Hence the use of the word xulon (No. 2, above) in connection with the manner of our Lord's death, and rendered "tree" in Act_5:30; Act_10:39; Act_13:29. Gal_3:13. 1Pe_2:24. This is preserved in our old Eng. name rood , or rod . See the Encycl. Brit ., 11th (Camb.) ed., vol. 7, p. 505 d.
There is nothing in the Greek of the N.T. even to imply two pieces of timber. The letter chi , C, the initial of the word Christ (Xristos), was originally used for His Name; or Xr. This was superseded by the symbols and , and even the first of these had four equal arms. These crosses were used as symbols of the Babylonian sun-god, Å, and are first seen on a coin of Julius Caesar, 100-44 B.C., and then on a coin struck by Caesar's heir (Augustus), 20 B.C. (*4) .
On the coins of Constantine the most frequent symbol is ; but the same symbol is used without the surrounding circle, and with the four equal arms vertical and horizontal; and this was the symbol specially venerated as the "Solar Wheel". It should be stated that Constantine was a sun-god worshipper, and would not enter the "Church" till some quarter of a century after the legend of his having seen such a cross in the heavens (EUSEBIUS, Vit. Const . I. 37).
The evidence is the same as to the pre-Christian (phallic) symbol in Asia, Africa, and Egypt, whether we consult Nineveh by Sir A. H. Layard (ii. 213), or Manners and Customs of the Ancient Egyptians , by Sir J. Gardner Wilkinson, iii. pp. 24, 26, 43, 44, 46, 52, 82, 136. Dr Schliemann gives the same evidence in his Ilios (1880), recording his discoveries on the site of prehistoric Troy. See pp. 337 ,350, 353, 521, 523. Dr Max Ohnefalsch-Richter gives the same evidence from Cyprus; and these are "the oldest extant Phoenician inscriptions"; see his Kypos, the Bible, and Homer: Oriental Civilization, Art, and Religion in Ancient Times , Plates XIX, XXV, XXVI, XXX, XXXI, XXXII, XL, LVIII, LXIX, &c.
The Catacombs in Rome bear the same testimony: "Christ" is never represented there as "hanging on a cross", and the cross itself is only portrayed in a veiled and hesitating manner. In the Egyptian churches the cross was a pagan symbol of life, borrowed by the Christians, and interpreted in the pagan manner. See the Encycl. Brit. 11th (Camb.) ed., vol. 14, p. 273. In his Letters from Rome Dean Burgon says: "I question whether a cross oc 6b4 curs on any Christian monument of the first four centuries".
In Mrs. Jameson's famous History of our Lord as Exemplified in Works of Art , she says (vol. ii. p. 315): "It must be owned that ancient objects of art, as far as hitherto known, afford no corroboration of the use of the cross in the simple transverse form familiar to us, at any period preceding, or even closely succeeding, the time of Chrysostom"; and Chrysostom wrote half a century after Constantine!
"The Invention of the Cross" by Helena the mother of Constantine (in 326), though it means her finding of the cross, may or may not be true; but the "invention" of it in pre-Christian times, and the "invention" of its use in later times, are truths of which we need to be reminded in the present day. The evidence is thus complete, that the Lord was put to death upon an upright stake, and not on two pieces of timber placed at any angle.


(*1) There are two compounds of it used: sustauroo = to put any one thus to death with another (Mat_27:44. Mar_15:32. Joh_19:32. Rom_6:6. Gal_2:20); and anastauroo = to raise up and fix upon the stake again (Heb_6:6). Another word used is equally significant: porspegnumi = to fix or fasten anything (Act_2:23).
(*2) Iliad xxiv. 453. Odyssey xiv. 11.
(*3) e.g. Thucydides iv. 90. Xenophon, Anabasis v. 2. 21.
(*4) Other coins with this symbol were struck by Augustus, also by Hadrian and other Roman emperors. See Early Christian Numismatics , by C. W. King, M.A.

Stauros = one piece of wood an upright pale or stake.
 

john832

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When executed on a stake the hands were both pierced over the head. Just for fun, why don't you actually do a little research on this one? Look up cross and you will find in the New Testament, the word for cross is...

G4716
σταυρός
stauros
stow-ros'
From the base of G2476; a stake or post (as set upright), that is, (specifically) a pole or cross (as an instrument of capital punishment); figuratively exposure to death, that is, self denial; by implication the atonement of Christ: - cross.

G4716
σταυρός
stauros
Thayer Definition:
1) an upright stake, especially a pointed one
2) a cross
2a) a well known instrument of most cruel and ignominious punishment, borrowed by the Greeks and Romans from the Phoenicians; to it were affixed among the Romans, down to the time of Constantine the Great, the guiltiest criminals, particularly the basest slaves, robbers, the authors and abetters of insurrections, and occasionally in the provinces, at the arbitrary pleasure of the governors, upright and peaceable men also, and even Roman citizens themselves
2b) the crucifixion which Christ underwent
Part of Speech: noun masculine
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: from the base of G2476
Citing in TDNT: 7:572, 1071

Dr. Bullinger says...

In the Greek N.T. two words are used for "the cross", on which the Lord was put to death.
1. The word stauros ; which denotes and upright pale or stake, to which the criminals were nailed for execution.
2. The word xulon , which generally denotes a piece of a dead log of wood or timber, for fuel or for any other purpose. It is not like dendron , which is used of a living, or green tree, as in Mat_21:8. Rev_7:1; Rev_7:3; Rev_8:7; Rev_9:4, &c.

As this latter word xulon is used for the former stauros , it shows us that the meaning of each is exactly the same. The verb stauros means to drive stakes (*1) . Our English word "cross" is the translation of the Latin crux ; but the Greek stauros no more means a crux than the word "stick" means a "crutch". Homer uses the word stauros of an ordinary pole or stake, or a single piece of timber (*2) . And this is the meaning and usage of the word throughout the Greek classics (*3) .

It never means two pieces of timber placed across one another at any angle, but always of one piece alone. Hence the use of the word xulon (No. 2, above) in connection with the manner of our Lord's death, and rendered "tree" in Act_5:30; Act_10:39; Act_13:29. Gal_3:13. 1Pe_2:24. This is preserved in our old Eng. name rood , or rod . See the Encycl. Brit ., 11th (Camb.) ed., vol. 7, p. 505 d.
There is nothing in the Greek of the N.T. even to imply two pieces of timber. The letter chi , C, the initial of the word Christ (Xristos), was originally used for His Name; or Xr. This was superseded by the symbols and , and even the first of these had four equal arms. These crosses were used as symbols of the Babylonian sun-god, Å, and are first seen on a coin of Julius Caesar, 100-44 B.C., and then on a coin struck by Caesar's heir (Augustus), 20 B.C. (*4) .
On the coins of Constantine the most frequent symbol is ; but the same symbol is used without the surrounding circle, and with the four equal arms vertical and horizontal; and this was the symbol specially venerated as the "Solar Wheel". It should be stated that Constantine was a sun-god worshipper, and would not enter the "Church" till some quarter of a century after the legend of his having seen such a cross in the heavens (EUSEBIUS, Vit. Const . I. 37).
The evidence is the same as to the pre-Christian (phallic) symbol in Asia, Africa, and Egypt, whether we consult Nineveh by Sir A. H. Layard (ii. 213), or Manners and Customs of the Ancient Egyptians , by Sir J. Gardner Wilkinson, iii. pp. 24, 26, 43, 44, 46, 52, 82, 136. Dr Schliemann gives the same evidence in his Ilios (1880), recording his discoveries on the site of prehistoric Troy. See pp. 337 ,350, 353, 521, 523. Dr Max Ohnefalsch-Richter gives the same evidence from Cyprus; and these are "the oldest extant Phoenician inscriptions"; see his Kypos, the Bible, and Homer: Oriental Civilization, Art, and Religion in Ancient Times , Plates XIX, XXV, XXVI, XXX, XXXI, XXXII, XL, LVIII, LXIX, &c.
The Catacombs in Rome bear the same testimony: "Christ" is never represented there as "hanging on a cross", and the cross itself is only portrayed in a veiled and hesitating manner. In the Egyptian churches the cross was a pagan symbol of life, borrowed by the Christians, and interpreted in the pagan manner. See the Encycl. Brit. 11th (Camb.) ed., vol. 14, p. 273. In his Letters from Rome Dean Burgon says: "I question whether a cross oc 6b4 curs on any Christian monument of the first four centuries".
In Mrs. Jameson's famous History of our Lord as Exemplified in Works of Art , she says (vol. ii. p. 315): "It must be owned that ancient objects of art, as far as hitherto known, afford no corroboration of the use of the cross in the simple transverse form familiar to us, at any period preceding, or even closely succeeding, the time of Chrysostom"; and Chrysostom wrote half a century after Constantine!
"The Invention of the Cross" by Helena the mother of Constantine (in 326), though it means her finding of the cross, may or may not be true; but the "invention" of it in pre-Christian times, and the "invention" of its use in later times, are truths of which we need to be reminded in the present day. The evidence is thus complete, that the Lord was put to death upon an upright stake, and not on two pieces of timber placed at any angle.


(*1) There are two compounds of it used: sustauroo = to put any one thus to death with another (Mat_27:44. Mar_15:32. Joh_19:32. Rom_6:6. Gal_2:20); and anastauroo = to raise up and fix upon the stake again (Heb_6:6). Another word used is equally significant: porspegnumi = to fix or fasten anything (Act_2:23).
(*2) Iliad xxiv. 453. Odyssey xiv. 11.
(*3) e.g. Thucydides iv. 90. Xenophon, Anabasis v. 2. 21.
(*4) Other coins with this symbol were struck by Augustus, also by Hadrian and other Roman emperors. See Early Christian Numismatics , by C. W. King, M.A.

Stauros = one piece of wood an upright pale or stake.
I don't have a problem with the word cross, I have a problem with inaccurate statements and the trumpeting of them as truth.
 
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But, the 7th day sabbath which was given before sin entered in this world and is blessed by God, the only day blessed by God.
Its says that God rested on the Seventh day in Genesis but it does NOT say that people had to observe the Sabbath rest at that time. the rest was only added after sin entered into the world.
 
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Ariel82

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:( more a fight between doctrines of men: SDA, COG, Lutheran, Southern Baptist, Methodist etc

than a discussion of God's Word happening....

i think i'll check out another thread
 

Grandpa

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Here is the differences between the Law of Moses & The Law of God:

MOSES'S LAW is called "the law of Moses" Luke 2:22 : GOD'S LAW is called "the law of the Lord" Isaiah 5:24

ML is called "the law of ordinances" Ephesians 2:15 : GL is called "the royal law" James 2:8

ML is written by Moses in a book. 2 chronicles 35:12 : GL is written by God on stone. Exodus 31:18; 32:16

Ml is placed in the side of the ark. Duet 31:26 : Gl is placed inside the ark. Exodus 40:20

Ml ended at the cross. Eph 2:15 : GL will stand forever. Luke 16:17

ML was added because of sin. Gal 3:19 : GL points out sin. Romans 7:7 & 3:20

Ml Contrary to us, against us. Col 2:14 : Gl Not grievous. 1 john 5:3

Ml Judges no one. Col 2:14-16 : GL Judges all people. James 2:10-12

ML carnal Hebrews 7;16 : GL Spiritual. Romans 7:14

ML made nothing perfect. Hebrews 7:19 : GL is Perfect. Psalm 19:7

So,, all should be able to see that the Law of Moses is indeed different from the Law of God!
This is abomination.

This is purposely twisting scripture to place people back under the Law and rebuild the partition that the Lord Jesus Has already taken down.

The 10 commandments are against us. They are contrary to us.

The lust of the eyes, the lust of the flesh and the pride of life... this is what we know from childhood, by instinct, naturally. The 10 commandments are against that at every step. Contrary to us...

The Lord Jesus took that away. We no longer have to obey perfectly the 10 commandments in order to come before God and be blessed by Him. The friend of sinners...

If you don't know that then you have this fearful condemnation over your head all the time because you know that you don't perfectly obey Him.

If you say "well he forgives us when we ask Him after we break His Commandments".

Yes He Does! So why stray from that perfect forgiveness back into the power of your own carnal mind and flesh? Stay abiding in Him and His mercy and forgiveness... That is what is meant by 'there is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus'.

Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Who walk not after the flesh. Who are not under the law to perform it in their flesh. Who don't use the power of their flesh and carnal mind to walk in the Perfect Way of Christ.

How is this accomplished? By faith in His Finished Work. Faith in His Blood. Faith in His Goodness. Faith in His Leading and His Wisdom. By Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.

Does this faith break any laws? No!!! It establishes the Law.

Its amazing how the forgiven person who knows he is forgiven walks in his forgiveness.

Its sad how the person who walks in the power of their own flesh keeps walking in the power of the flesh.

I hope you know that I'm not telling you this because I am against you. I'm telling you this because I remember when I used to twist the Law to make it mean something that I could think I was obeying in my flesh. That way I could think in my (deranged) mind that I was good with God because I was "keeping" His commandments...

I'm basically a good person, I thought. I don't break any of the commandments, I thought. How ignorant and foolish I was...
 
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Its says that God rested on the Seventh day in Genesis but it does NOT say that people had to observe the Sabbath rest at that time. the rest was only added after sin entered into the world.
The word rested means sabbath, God kept the sabbath. Adam & Eve were created the 6th day and the next the kept the sabbath with God
 

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oh lol... it's all the law of Moses... given by GOD through Moses... the 10 commandments and everything else.
They are God's laws and they were written by God. PERIOD.

Exo 24:12 And the LORD said unto Moses, Come up to me into the mount, and be there: and I will give thee tables of stone, and a law, and commandments which I have written; that thou mayest teach them.
 

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Whose laws? God's Laws. God states they are "my law".

Exo 16:4 Then said the LORD unto Moses, Behold, I will rain bread from heaven for you; and the people shall go out and gather a certain rate every day, that I may prove them, whether they will walk in my law, or no.
 
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:( more a fight between doctrines of men: SDA, COG, Lutheran, Southern Baptist, Methodist etc

than a discussion of God's Word happening....

i think i'll check out another thread
It seems there are people on cc who prefer to debate than dig for gold.
 

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Deu 4:39 Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the LORD he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else.
Deu 4:40 Thou shalt keep therefore his (God's) statutes, and his (God's)commandments, which I command thee this day, that it may go well with thee, and with thy children after thee, and that thou mayest prolong thy days upon the earth, which the LORD thy God giveth thee, for ever.

Deu 4:44 And this is the law which Moses set before the children of Israel:

By the time the New Testament writers were writing of "Moses Law" they had diluted the importance that they were God's laws, commandments, statues, ordinances, etc. Just leave it to religious people to delute the importance of God's Words through his mitzvah, Torah, statues, ordinances, commandments, laws, etc.