Dear Chosen,
I am familiar with all the scriptures you cited. I didn't say there isn't a Rapture, I am questioning the Pre-Trib timing of it. My dear friend, nothing in the scriptures you cited places the Rapture
BEFORE the Tribulation, nor do they contain evidence of two separate comings of the Lord. The closest thing you have is the Zech 14:4 passage where the Lord's feet stands on the Mount of Olives verses other passages that has Him coming in the clouds. There is a very simple explanation for that. He gathers us in the clouds, then we are transformed, in the twinkling of an eye, and come down with Him to do battle with "all the saints in heaven."
Remember Paul teaches us that the dead in Christ rise first. They are given glorified bodies and their souls come down from heaven to occupy those bodies. We are then with the Lamb forever and ever.
Paul doesn't tell us that the Rapture is a mystery. He tells us that the mystery is that we are all changed in the twinkling of an eye.
Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump
And it is at the Last Trump. How can the last trump be BEFORE the Tribulation BEFORE the other trumpets sound? It can't. The passages you quote defeat your view.
EXPLAIN TO ME THE IDENTITY OF THE OTHER TRUMPETS THAT SOUND BEFORE THIS LAST TRUMPET. Nowhere in the Bible are their other trumpets sounding
before the Tribulation that are connected to the Rapture.
The mystery is told in Rev 10:
[SUP]7 [/SUP]but in the days of the sounding of the seventh angel, when he is about to sound, the mystery of God would be finished, as He declared to His servants the prophets.
The mystery is also told in Revelation 11, which ALSO has the Last Trumpet mentioned. Look at the scene in heaven and we even have an earthquake which agrees with Zech 14.
Seventh Trumpet: The Kingdom Proclaimed
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Then the seventh angel sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdoms[SUP][
f][/SUP] of this world have become
the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!” [SUP]16 [/SUP]And the twenty-four elders who sat before God on their thrones fell on their faces and worshiped God, [SUP]17 [/SUP]saying:
“We give You thanks, O Lord God Almighty,
The One who is and who was and who is to come,[SUP][
g][/SUP]
Because You have taken Your great power and reigned.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]The nations were angry, and
Your wrath has come,
And the
time of the dead, that they should be judged,
And that You
should reward Your servants the prophets and the saints,
And those who fear Your name, small and great,
And
should destroy those who destroy the earth.”
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Then the temple of God was opened in heaven, and the ark of His covenant[SUP][
h][/SUP] was seen in His temple. And there were lightnings, noises, thunderings, an
earthquake, and great hail.
My dear friend, all of these passages that deal with the Lord's coming deal with
The Day of the Lord. There is no earlier Rapture. The Day of the Lord is that glorious day where all the believers (who remain) on earth are caught up and given glorified bodies right after the dead in Christ and resurrected. The Lord then judges the earth and establishes his millennial kingdom. Look at the description above again. All of this is stated!!! After creation, this will be the most eventful day in all of history.
Remember that the Lord tells us no man will know the day or hour of His coming? That is true, but we do know the time of day and that it will be a dark and gloomy day.
Zechariah 14:
Thus the Lord my God will come,
And all the saints with You.[SUP][
a][/SUP]
[SUP]6 [/SUP]It shall come to pass in
that day
That there will be
no light;
The lights will diminish.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]
It shall be one day
Which is known to the Lord—
Neither day nor night.
But at evening time it shall happen
That it will be light.
The Jewish day starts in the evening so the Lord comes at the beginning of the Day. He has 24 hours to gather the saints (both dead and remaining), split the Mt. of Olives and defeat and judge His enemies. Wow, what a day that will be.
But as for there being another day before the Tribulation when he comes, sorry it just isn't true and you have not proven that it happens BEFORE the Tribulation or that there are two separate comings of the Lord. If you can't see this then I am truly sorry for you my dear brother in Christ. But hopefully you will not despair when the Tribulation starts at the 6th seal and you find that we are all still here for the Lord will come but not until the 7th trumpet.