Keep The Commandments

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eternally-gratefull

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No one has answered this question the five or more times I have asked, three at least posting also several direct quotes of teaching from the Master.
It tends to convince me these folks cannot respond, and they are stuck in their own stubborness. Also I have seen people who have not been in on the thread agreeing with some without the slightest knowledge as to what the exchanges are all about. God bless all in Yeshua, amen.
You have been answered over and over, You just refuse to see it!
 
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sunshinelovin1700

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I believe thsy did. My post was not aimed at you, but rather a general statement.

LOL I'm still in Good spirit my friend as it says
[h=3]Isaiah 1:18-20[/h]King James Version (KJV)

18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
 

JaumeJ

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OK but I am not anyone's buddy, brother perhaps, but only in Yeshua. It seemed to me a continuation of the mindless monologing continuing about how the law being fulfilled abolished the law, please forgive that. I will not call you missy either.

I really think you are misunderstanding me there buddy maybe I said it wrong but I never said He abolished the law.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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There is only 1 correct answer to the following question. It will surely explain itself:


In the Judgment day I will be saved if;

A. I maintain an excellant record of good works

B. I love the Lord, regardless of whether or not I obey the 10 Commandments.

c. My Personal relationship with Jesus leads me to obey all His Commandments.


My answer is C. If yours isn't,,then something is amiss.
No. that would be wrong also.

The ONLY correct answer is

I have placed my faith in the Lord Jesus Christ based on the fact the law has proven to me I am a sinner, And apart from the shedding of the blood of Christ, I have no hope. thus I place my COMPLETE faith in Christ to save me.

Anything else falls short.

Question C is in error. because question c is impossible. I still can not obey enough according to the law to be saved by obedience. Thus I would still be condemned by the law!
 

john832

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Did Jesus accomplish in what He was sent to do?
Not all. His plan is still ongoing and He has yet to return to set up the Kingdom. He, Himself, alludes to this...

Luk 4:16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.
Luk 4:17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,
Luk 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
Luk 4:19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
Luk 4:20 And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.
Luk 4:21 And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.

This is a quote from Isa 61...

Isa 61:1 The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;
Isa 61:2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;
Isa 61:3 To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified.
Isa 61:4 And they shall build the old wastes, they shall raise up the former desolations, and they shall repair the waste cities, the desolations of many generations.
Isa 61:5 And strangers shall stand and feed your flocks, and the sons of the alien shall be your plowmen and your vinedressers.
Isa 61:6 But ye shall be named the Priests of the LORD: men shall call you the Ministers of our God: ye shall eat the riches of the Gentiles, and in their glory shall ye boast yourselves.
Isa 61:7 For your shame ye shall have double; and for confusion they shall rejoice in their portion: therefore in their land they shall possess the double: everlasting joy shall be unto them.
Isa 61:8 For I the LORD love judgment, I hate robbery for burnt offering; and I will direct their work in truth, and I will make an everlasting covenant with them.
Isa 61:9 And their seed shall be known among the Gentiles, and their offspring among the people: all that see them shall acknowledge them, that they are the seed which the LORD hath blessed.
Isa 61:10 I will greatly rejoice in the LORD, my soul shall be joyful in my God; for he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, he hath covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decketh himself with ornaments, and as a bride adorneth herself with her jewels.
Isa 61:11 For as the earth bringeth forth her bud, and as the garden causeth the things that are sown in it to spring forth; so the Lord GOD will cause righteousness and praise to spring forth before all the nations.

Notice the quote in Luke stops half way through verse 2 in Isaiah? Pick it up from that point in Isaiah 61:2 and we see that He did not fulfill that portion of the prophecy, YET! It is coming.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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As far as the Ten Commandments are concerned, nowhere in the Word is it written or taught that Yeshua filfilled these commandments.
So your telling me that jesus was with sin?? WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

JaumeJ

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You really should keep track of what is being replied to. Have you replied to the several times I have posted the following which is the reference:



Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Mat 5:19
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.

Mat 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Mat 22:40
On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Mar 10:19
Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother.

Mar 10:20 And he answered and said unto him, Master, all these have I observed from my youth.

Mar 10:21 Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.

Rev 14:12
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Rev 22:14
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

Rev 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.


Now is a good time for you to reply to these teachings from the Master.
 


You have been answered over and over, You just refuse to see it!
 
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eternally-gratefull

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When our Lord said "It is finished," it has always been taught He finished delivering the Good News and fulfilled all that was written about Him. If you wish to join the revisionist theologians in this "interpretations," I cannot stop you, however there is no manner you will convince anyone that He was speaking of only the law. He came to fulfill the law, not to destroy it. And when He taught this, He said not to teach against the law. To say "It is finished" is to be interpreted the law is destroyed is not only wrong, it is an affront to God.

lol. When the Lord said it is finished. He did fullfill all.

I will forgive you ALL your sin, I will wash you as white as snow. I will take your sin as far as the east is from the west. I will remember your sin no more. I will bring you into my fathers house, and dine with you..

All those things he did on the cross!!

To say otherwise is to deny Gods promise!
 
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eternally-gratefull

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If it is truly finished, you and I missed salvation...Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. So is this finished? Were we left behind in an eternal manner? We're just done for? Help me out here, please explain.
No, it it is not finished. NO ONE WILL EVER BE SAVED.

the penalty of sin is DEATH. If Christs death is NOT SUFFICIENT to cleans us from ALL sin, We must suffer the death of the sin he failed to die for.

And you claim you are not teaching law. You do not even think Christs death completed the work of salvation. You think we have to ADD to his work. you just proved it!
 
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eternally-gratefull

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You really should keep track of what is being replied to. Have you replied to the several times I have posted the following which is the reference:



Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Mat 5:19
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.

Mat 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Mat 22:40
On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Mar 10:19
Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother.

Mar 10:20 And he answered and said unto him, Master, all these have I observed from my youth.

Mar 10:21 Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.

Rev 14:12
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Rev 22:14
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

Rev 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.


Now is a good time for you to reply to these teachings from the Master.
 

lol..

So we have to help God save ourselves. Thanks. Nothing else needs to be said. jesus death was not sufficient to save us.. He did not fullfill the law according to the OT prophets..
 
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sunshinelovin1700

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Not all. His plan is still ongoing and He has yet to return to set up the Kingdom. He, Himself, alludes to this...

Luk 4:16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.
Luk 4:17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,
Luk 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
Luk 4:19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
Luk 4:20 And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.
Luk 4:21 And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.

This is a quote from Isa 61...

Isa 61:1 The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;
Isa 61:2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;
Isa 61:3 To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified.
Isa 61:4 And they shall build the old wastes, they shall raise up the former desolations, and they shall repair the waste cities, the desolations of many generations.
Isa 61:5 And strangers shall stand and feed your flocks, and the sons of the alien shall be your plowmen and your vinedressers.
Isa 61:6 But ye shall be named the Priests of the LORD: men shall call you the Ministers of our God: ye shall eat the riches of the Gentiles, and in their glory shall ye boast yourselves.
Isa 61:7 For your shame ye shall have double; and for confusion they shall rejoice in their portion: therefore in their land they shall possess the double: everlasting joy shall be unto them.
Isa 61:8 For I the LORD love judgment, I hate robbery for burnt offering; and I will direct their work in truth, and I will make an everlasting covenant with them.
Isa 61:9 And their seed shall be known among the Gentiles, and their offspring among the people: all that see them shall acknowledge them, that they are the seed which the LORD hath blessed.
Isa 61:10 I will greatly rejoice in the LORD, my soul shall be joyful in my God; for he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, he hath covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decketh himself with ornaments, and as a bride adorneth herself with her jewels.
Isa 61:11 For as the earth bringeth forth her bud, and as the garden causeth the things that are sown in it to spring forth; so the Lord GOD will cause righteousness and praise to spring forth before all the nations.

Notice the quote in Luke stops half way through verse 2 in Isaiah? Pick it up from that point in Isaiah 61:2 and we see that He did not fulfill that portion of the prophecy, YET! It is coming.

Ok You've said alot here. I do see what you mean and yes there is still an ongoing plan of prophecy that needs to be fullfilled. I agree. I appreciate all the scripture I like that.
 

JaumeJ

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Your reply and comment on the teachings of the Master do not satisfy the post or the question. It is almost as if you are a troll. Are you a troll?

You really should keep track of what is being replied to. Have you replied to the several times I have posted the following which is the reference:



Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Mat 5:19
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.

Mat 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Mat 22:40
On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Mar 10:19
Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother.

Mar 10:20 And he answered and said unto him, Master, all these have I observed from my youth.

Mar 10:21 Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.

Rev 14:12
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Rev 22:14
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

Rev 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.


Now is a good time for you to reply to these teachings from the Master.
 

lol..

So we have to help God save ourselves. Thanks. Nothing else needs to be said. jesus death was not sufficient to save us.. He did not fullfill the law according to the OT prophets..
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Your reply and comment on the teachings of the Master do not satisfy the post or the question. It is almost as if you are a troll. Are you a troll?
am I a troll?

lol.

Am I teaching one should not obey Gods commands?

You seem to think I am, If you do. Maybe your the troll??


I have no clue what you believe yet.

in one post you say one thing, in another post you seem to backtrack and say something else..
 

JaumeJ

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This teaching from you is haphazzardly from Scripture but it is put together in a manic manner, almost schizophrenic. Of course you believe you should be laughing out loud as you pass this on, which explains my own commentary here. You cannot believe that you no longer have any responsibility for your actions as you have posted previously and seem to refer to here? You continue laughing out loud, but I will only laugh when the Lord says to laugh, and it is not in a discussion of salvation by His precious Blood.


lol. When the Lord said it is finished. He did fullfill all.

I will forgive you ALL your sin, I will wash you as white as snow. I will take your sin as far as the east is from the west. I will remember your sin no more. I will bring you into my fathers house, and dine with you..

All those things he did on the cross!!

To say otherwise is to deny Gods promise!
 

JaumeJ

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What? You now say you are NOT teaching against the commandments of God, when did you change? Welcome to the Body of Yeshua. But please, stop laughing. What our Lord did for us is no laughing matter, although many in the forum have and will disagree.


am I a troll?

lol.

Am I teaching one should not obey Gods commands?

You seem to think I am, If you do. Maybe your the troll??


I have no clue what you believe yet.

in one post you say one thing, in another post you seem to backtrack and say something else..
 
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eternally-gratefull

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What? You now say you are NOT teaching against the commandments of God, when did you change?


When did I change? I have never taught this, If you have been reading my posts you would have seen this

Welcome to the Body of Yeshua. But please, stop laughing. What our Lord did for us is no laughing matter, although many in the forum have and will disagree.
Forgive me, But I have to laugh, If I do not. I will get angry, and thats never good!
 

john832

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No, it it is not finished. NO ONE WILL EVER BE SAVED.

the penalty of sin is DEATH. If Christs death is NOT SUFFICIENT to cleans us from ALL sin, We must suffer the death of the sin he failed to die for.

And you claim you are not teaching law. You do not even think Christs death completed the work of salvation. You think we have to ADD to his work. you just proved it!
You, my friend are twisting and adding to what I say. Have at it.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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This teaching from you is haphazzardly from Scripture but it is put together in a manic manner, almost schizophrenic. Of course you believe you should be laughing out loud as you pass this on, which explains my own commentary here. You cannot believe that you no longer have any responsibility for your actions as you have posted previously and seem to refer to here? You continue laughing out loud, but I will only laugh when the Lord says to laugh, and it is not in a discussion of salvation by His precious Blood.
lol. I am sorry, I laugh because I am amazed at some of the stuff I hear on here.

Yes, I am responsible for my actions. My actions (sin) brings a penalty, that penalty is death. In other words, If Christ did not pay for my sin, I would be doomed.

However, I am not under law. Jesus paid it all. Thus I am either saved, with him KNOWING every sin i will ever commit from death to life. Or I am not saved. because he declares my faith in HIS work lacking.

there is no inbetween.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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You, my friend are twisting and adding to what I say. Have at it.
If I misunderstood you. Then explain what you mean..

If I did not misunderstand you. I will know by your lack of showing me where I erred..